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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Branton Rover on September 03, 2020, 09:52:28 am
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The Barnsley manager talking openly about Ben Whiteman and his interest in signing him - this is outrageous really he is still our player and no contract as yet had been signed to suggest otherwise - this is low grade from a manager who should know better - DM thankfully wouldn’t stoop as low as this
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Where is this then?
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Twitter see John Coyle
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Leon Wobchall Tweet
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I dont mind if Ben does move onto a championship club if we are to get a good deal and it works for both parties because he does deserve a crack in that league. But part of me will be pretty pissed off if we sell our best player to Barnsley.
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I don’t think we can complain where a player goes to - rivals or not - if the deal is right for our club and for the player.
Is Struber talking about his interest, which I don’t have an issue with, or is he suggesting a deal is done.?
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Either way he should keep his trap shut until Ben becomes a Barnsley player - I can’t imagine Darren being so insensitive
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This what Struber said
Acknowledging interest in Doncaster Rovers captain Ben Whiteman, Barnsley head coach Struber.
"Ben is a very interesting player. He shows he can play in a good style in L1.
"He is an interesting player, we will see what the next days bring." #barnsleyfc #drfc
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Either way he should keep his trap shut until Ben becomes a Barnsley player - I can’t imagine Darren being so insensitive
Give over. He doesn’t say anything really. It’s public knowledge they have bid for him.
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https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/gerhard-struber-barnsley-fcs-interest-doncaster-rovers-captain-2960208
Looks like he was asked a question and as they already knew the interest he answered it truthly.
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Anybody with any class would have replied that we are always interested in good players and constantly look at options. At least something similar doesn't fuel speculation and possibly unsettle a player. Unless of course that's just what you are trying to do.
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Anybody with any class would have replied that we are always interested in good players and constantly look at options. At least something similar doesn't fuel speculation and possibly unsettle a player. Unless of course that's just what you are trying to do.
Why would it unsettle the player? He knows bids have been made.
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He should n’t be talking about other clubs players like that, the price should be increased due to his lack of respect to our club
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Why not? I don't understand the sensitivity around it.
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Why not? I don't understand the sensitivity around it.
If they have made a new bid then i don’t see any anything wrong in what Struber has said in that quote.
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Yet another thread on the same subject!
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People often ignore that these quotes come from direct questions. Struber hasn't sat down for his press conference and just blurted out "I love Ben Whiteman". He's been asked about Ben by a journalist, probably for the 300th time this summer, and has answered accordingly.
I'll be really annoyed if he joins Barnsley to be honest because he can do better and we've already lost a key player to another local rival, but if we get the money we deserve for him then it softens the blow. I'm not sure if Barnsley will stump up that sort of money anyway to be honest.
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I’ll be annoyed if he joins Barnsley because I’m pretty sure they can’t afford what he is realistically worth. If he goes there he’s probably gone too cheaply.
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I’ll be annoyed if he joins Barnsley because I’m pretty sure they can’t afford what he is realistically worth. If he goes there he’s probably gone too cheaply.
What does it really say about Whiteman’s likely move away if at all .. because if Barnsley are the only bidders then he’s staying for the forceable , as I sure his ambition is to develop into an international class player not work his arse off fighting relegation every year !!
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Would have thought Ben would wish for better than Barnsley,
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Would have thought Ben would wish for better than Barnsley,
He does
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I’ll be annoyed if he joins Barnsley because I’m pretty sure they can’t afford what he is realistically worth. If he goes there he’s probably gone too cheaply.
What does it really say about Whiteman’s likely move away if at all .. because if Barnsley are the only bidders then he’s staying for the forceable , as I sure his ambition is to develop into an international class player not work his arse off fighting relegation every year !!
I don't think we can force him.... :whistle:
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Whiteman starts i todays Friendly
1-0 to Rovers after 6mins
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Whiteman starts i todays Friendly
1-0 to Rovers after 6mins
You going to keep us all updated Filo..... please.
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3-0 Rovers now, Taylor with two and Butler with one.
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Sounds like Mowatt could be moving on from what we are hearing .
I thought he'd signed a contract extension but he hasn't has yet .
This is important because once you have 12 months left on your current deal here it's sign a new one or you are sold .
Starting to make sense why we are interested in Whiteman now to me personally .
Not suggesting for one minute that we will land Whiteman but I'd expect us to receive at least £2.5m for Mowatt so we may be in a better position to get somewhere near Rovers valuation .
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Sounds like Mowatt could be moving on from what we are hearing .
I thought he'd signed a contract extension but he hasn't has yet .
This is important because once you have 12 months left on your current deal here it's sign a new one or you are sold .
Starting to make sense why we are interested in Whiteman now to me personally .
Not suggesting for one minute that we will land Whiteman but I'd expect us to receive at least £2.5m for Mowatt so we may be in a better position to get somewhere near Rovers valuation .
It needs to match or better our valuation, getting near is not good enough
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I think Struber would have been better advised not to be so specific about Whiteman .
He could easily have answered the question by saying we are looking at a number of targets and left it at that .
I wouldn't have liked it if another Championship manager had spoken so specifically about one of our players that they'd had been linked with .
Pretty poor from us in my opinion .
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I think Struber would have been better advised not to be so specific about Whiteman .
He could easily have answered the question by saying we are looking at a number of targets and left it at that .
I wouldn't have liked it if another Championship manager had spoken so specifically about one of our players that they'd had been linked with .
Pretty poor from us in my opinion .
Football has changed and so has the way in which players are pursued , there is no need for emotions or silliness..
If one of our players is being courted publicly then that can only flag up the players ability and alert others to the possible availability...
I see Whiteman as a very replaceable asset
And I think he would certainly suit Barnsley’s style
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Whilst initially being annoyed by this I think the best thing the club should do is hold fast and ask for anything from £6m for him. If they want him enough they will pay
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Barnsley's continued interest also flags him up to other possible buyers.
I do hope that he stays though.
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Whilst initially being annoyed by this I think the best thing the club should do is hold fast and ask for anything from £6m for him. If they want him enough they will pay
He may have a release Claus based upon a value already agreed upon, and I very much doubt it will be that high....perhaps 2 mil tops,
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Whilst initially being annoyed by this I think the best thing the club should do is hold fast and ask for anything from £6m for him. If they want him enough they will pay
He may have a release Claus based upon a value already agreed upon, and I very much doubt it will be that high....perhaps 2 mil tops,
Could the Clause have gone up the chimney in smoke?
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Whilst initially being annoyed by this I think the best thing the club should do is hold fast and ask for anything from £6m for him. If they want him enough they will pay
He may have a release Claus based upon a value already agreed upon, and I very much doubt it will be that high....perhaps 2 mil tops,
I have read that this isn't the case in the DFP, and Hoden is generally reliable for that sort of info.
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If the club value Whiteman at £2m then I am bitterly disappointed. The way money is thrown around these days it should be double that at the very least. I know this may disappoint the lad wanting to play in the championship but surely the guy wants to play for a club who are going to challenge at the top end? You are not telling me Will Vaulks is better than Ben Whiteman and he went straight to Cardiff! So if a deal is to be made with Barnsley I question the boards valuation and the players ambition.
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If the club value Whiteman at £2m then I am bitterly disappointed. The way money is thrown around these days it should be double that at the very least. I know this may disappoint the lad wanting to play in the championship but surely the guy wants to play for a club who are going to challenge at the top end? You are not telling me Will Vaulks is better than Ben Whiteman and he went straight to Cardiff! So if a deal is to be made with Barnsley I question the boards valuation and the players ambition.
We’re a club with a good recent record of developing players to a standard we can no longer afford, if he wants to better himself, we’ve proved we’re a club where he can do that. all we are for any player is a stepping stone to a club that pays higher wages.
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If the club value Whiteman at £2m then I am bitterly disappointed. The way money is thrown around these days it should be double that at the very least. I know this may disappoint the lad wanting to play in the championship but surely the guy wants to play for a club who are going to challenge at the top end? You are not telling me Will Vaulks is better than Ben Whiteman and he went straight to Cardiff! So if a deal is to be made with Barnsley I question the boards valuation and the players ambition.
We’re a club with a good recent record of developing players to a standard we can no longer afford, if he wants to better himself, we’ve proved we’re a club where he can do that. all we are for any player is a stepping stone to a club that pays higher wages.
Remember you are only in the Championship because Wigan have dodgy owners, why would he go to a club that will be up against relegation, it makes no sense for him
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That is a very good point of order Filo.
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Whilst initially being annoyed by this I think the best thing the club should do is hold fast and ask for anything from £6m for him. If they want him enough they will pay
Exactly. Peterborough do it. We should too. If he’s thst important then they’ll pay it.
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If the club value Whiteman at £2m then I am bitterly disappointed. The way money is thrown around these days it should be double that at the very least. I know this may disappoint the lad wanting to play in the championship but surely the guy wants to play for a club who are going to challenge at the top end? You are not telling me Will Vaulks is better than Ben Whiteman and he went straight to Cardiff! So if a deal is to be made with Barnsley I question the boards valuation and the players ambition.
We’re a club with a good recent record of developing players to a standard we can no longer afford, if he wants to better himself, we’ve proved we’re a club where he can do that. all we are for any player is a stepping stone to a club that pays higher wages.
Remember you are only in the Championship because Wigan have dodgy owners, why would he go to a club that will be up against relegation, it makes no sense for him
Read this ......
https://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/championship-outright-preview/183832
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not for one second saying we’ll finish in top 3 but whoever wrote that, makes all the points I would in response to your question.
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If the club value Whiteman at £2m then I am bitterly disappointed. The way money is thrown around these days it should be double that at the very least. I know this may disappoint the lad wanting to play in the championship but surely the guy wants to play for a club who are going to challenge at the top end? You are not telling me Will Vaulks is better than Ben Whiteman and he went straight to Cardiff! So if a deal is to be made with Barnsley I question the boards valuation and the players ambition.
We’re a club with a good recent record of developing players to a standard we can no longer afford, if he wants to better himself, we’ve proved we’re a club where he can do that. all we are for any player is a stepping stone to a club that pays higher wages.
Remember you are only in the Championship because Wigan have dodgy owners, why would he go to a club that will be up against relegation, it makes no sense for him
Read this ......
https://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/championship-outright-preview/183832
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not for one second saying we’ll finish in top 3 but whoever wrote that, makes all the points I would in response to your question.
Now that’s funny, I like his imagination though.
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There's probably about 7 or 8 clubs that you can predict will be up around the top of the championship , getting them in the right order is however another matter .
As for the rest , then good luck with that because anything can happen in this mental league .
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Sheaf joining Coventy on loan with a £750k option to buy. That is a barometer for the Whiteman valuation.
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I thought the Sheaf transfer was ‘off’?
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I thought the Sheaf transfer was ‘off’?
Nope.
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Sheaf joining Coventy on loan with a £750k option to buy. That is a barometer for the Whiteman valuation.
I disagree - Whiteman has a few more season experience and is proven repeatedly as one of the best in this division. Sheaf is a good player yes, with great potential, but would be a riskier investment - at the moment.
In a couple of years Sheaf could be “worth” more than Whiteman is now, or not.!
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Sheaf joining Coventy on loan with a £750k option to buy. That is a barometer for the Whiteman valuation.
I disagree - Whiteman has a few more season experience and is proven repeatedly as one of the best in this division. Sheaf is a good player yes, with great potential, but would be a riskier investment - at the moment.
In a couple of years Sheaf could be “worth” more than Whiteman is now, or not.!
Disagree with what?
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For what it's worth, it looks like Richards will be more than an ample replacement for Sheaf. DM and Hoden have been impressed with his ability to close down and win the ball back, adding to his attacking prowess from the middle of the park. He could become 'the boss' in midfield but he needs back up.
Together with Whiteman, they will be a dominant pairing but without Whiteman, that would leave Gomes without any real competition and we would need another.
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Sheaf joining Coventy on loan with a £750k option to buy. That is a barometer for the Whiteman valuation.
I disagree - Whiteman has a few more season experience and is proven repeatedly as one of the best in this division. Sheaf is a good player yes, with great potential, but would be a riskier investment - at the moment.
In a couple of years Sheaf could be “worth” more than Whiteman is now, or not.!
Disagree with what?
That Sheaf’s value is a “barometer” for Whiteman’s.. I thought I made that quite clear and I explained why I believe that to be the case.?
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Sheaf joining Coventy on loan with a £750k option to buy. That is a barometer for the Whiteman valuation.
I disagree - Whiteman has a few more season experience and is proven repeatedly as one of the best in this division. Sheaf is a good player yes, with great potential, but would be a riskier investment - at the moment.
In a couple of years Sheaf could be “worth” more than Whiteman is now, or not.!
Disagree with what?
That Sheaf’s value is a “barometer” for Whiteman’s.. I thought I made that quite clear and I explained why I believe that to be the case.?
So the fee set for one player can’t be used as a guide to approximate the potential value of another? I never said or implied the fees would be the same.
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Sheafs still got a years contract so we need to convince Arsenal and the player for another or similar deal to Cameron John but wages might be an issue. It appears Arsenal pay good wages that’s why players don’t want to end their contracts.
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Sheafs still got a years contract so we need to convince Arsenal and the player for another or similar deal to Cameron John but wages might be an issue. It appears Arsenal pay good wages that’s why players don’t want to end their contracts.
Sheaf at Coventry.