No Brexit Extension

[bobjimwilly]

I do believe that Farage & the leave campaigns got the idea from something the National Socialist party in Germany used just before WW2.
 

^ and that is why Farage and his ilk have always been c*nts, and all ways will be

[wilts rover]

Tyke.

I recognise them 100%. I just disagree that taking a wrecking ball to the issue will help overall.

At base, if people are getting on economically, no-one really gives a shit about immigration. That is demonstrated throughout history. Anti-immigrant stances become prominent when people are struggling economically.

So to address an immigration issue by choosing to make ourselves markedly less wealthy for a generation, while in practice doing nothing to limit immigration is not a recipe for dealing with this issue. It is likely to make the resentment and anger far, far worse when people realise that they aren't getting the brighter future they were promised.

Billy

There is no economic benefit of membership of the EU for many of leave voters because it's a neoliberal and market led organisation .

Thatcher destroyed areas around here and Blair didn't do enough to improve things .

So they hang their hat on culture and their communities .

Multiculturalism is embraced by the graduate and big city metropolitan voter , they move around more , their jobs take them abroad etc ..... I get it .

However millions don't , they have low paid jobs and stay in the communities they were born in and make the best of that .

They don't want to see their communities change or their values challenged ...... mars and venus mate .

I firmly believe many are prepared to take the economic hit in return to live in communities they desire .

They have nowt anyway other than their family , community and their cultural values .

Colours well and truly nailed there, Tyke.  What bizarre logic you have.

I wonder what those people who voted to leave the EU because of 'multiculturism' think to 600000 Chinese people arriving in the UK in the next 2 years?

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2020/12/14/2003748697

Tell thi what Wilts .

Why don't you come up one day from Wiltshire and have a walk around that big estate at Rosso and tell em how good multiculturalism is .

Let me know how you go on .

Well some seemingly intelligent people have managed to con them that the policies of the British government were the fault of the EU so they're hardly going to listen to me if they want to recreate the NF/BNP. The 600000 Chinese people from Hong Kong due to start arriving on 1st January 2021 being the case in point.

I would be delighted to take you on a multi-cultural tour of Bristol should you ever be down in this part of the world. You might learn something.

[wilts rover]

  Wilt's those 600000 Chinese from Hong Kong are escaping a  regime that want to dictate everything about their life, subjugate them to their rules and dictate their working lives and what they are allowed to doand integrate them into China, the same with Taiwan
  Seventeen million voted to escape   a similar regime that has developed in Brussels, and now want you to crawl over broken glass. If China were doing to Hong Kong and Taiwan what the EU are trying to do to the UK the western world's press would be all over it.
   The Americans and Australian navies are sailing war ships and flying aircraft every day in and over seas that China are trying to claim from other countries because of the other countries sovereignty, yet you support France's right to roll all over our rights.
  I suppose if Hong Kong and Taiwan had  Tory leaders  you wouldn't mind just giving them to China.

Glad to know that you acknowedge immigration into this country has more to do with the policies of the British government than those of the EU Selby. And well said also for acknowleding also that the EU has a moral right to look after people from it's former colonies.

The EU & the UK are negotiating a trade treaty btw. Sovereignty gives them the right to negotiate the conditions of that treaty. That's it. That's all it means. If you think it means any more than that - you've been conned.

[selby]

   Glyn, you missed the first two words hard faced pillock, that's the reason the last four years it has been easy to make money on the markets and why I can buy and sell people like you who think they are smart.
   Keep working hard at it Glyn and you will be too busy to make a lot of money.
 
 

[Glyn_Wigley]

   Glyn, you missed the first two words hard faced pillock, that's the reason the last four years it has been easy to make money on the markets and why I can buy and sell people like you who think they are smart.
   Keep working hard at it Glyn and you will be too busy to make a lot of money.
 
 

You mean the first two words of this piece of utter stupidity, that makes you look an utter pillock? How do the first two words of this say that you don't think exporters pay the tariffs?

Glynn, tariffs are levied by the country receiving the goods and paid by the exporter

When I was raising assessments for Customs Duty and making the importers and not the exporters pay them for all those years was I (and the rest of HMC&E/HMRC) really getting it wrong all the time? Or have you shown yourself up as the complete ignoramus about International Trade that you truly are?

Who do the rest of you think is right?

[wilts rover]

Anyone know what this is and who agrees with it:

Reduce Immigration
Reject the Common Market
Make Britain Great Again
Scrap Overseas Aid
Rebuild our Armed Forces



of course you knew all the time - its the manefesto of the National Front

https://twitter.com/scotwilliams/status/986182667673751552

[ravenrover]

Tweet from  Nicholas Watt
Big buzz in the last hour among Tory MPs that the UK is heading towards a Brexit deal with the EU. Eurosceptics being reassured they will be happy.

[tommy toes]

Tweet from  Nicholas Watt
Big buzz in the last hour among Tory MPs that the UK is heading towards a Brexit deal with the EU. Eurosceptics being reassured they will be happy.

No surprise if true. No matter how crap it is Johnson will come on Tele waving a  piece of paper like Neville Chamberlain on acid, with a broad grin to tell us about his wonderful (crap) deal.

[wilts rover]

Tweet from  Nicholas Watt
Big buzz in the last hour among Tory MPs that the UK is heading towards a Brexit deal with the EU. Eurosceptics being reassured they will be happy.

Given that this time last year he was telling us that he had a great deal that was oven ready to go - which he then had to break international law in the summer to change because it was rushed and unsatisfactory, I think he Eurosceptics might just keep being sceptic for a bit a longer. As they know him better than we do!

[drfchound]

But I thought that any deal was better than no deal.

[BillyStubbsTears]

It is. It just might not be very much better.

[drfchound]

Hindsight will tell us then.

[Glyn_Wigley]

I hope to God the government aren't relying on hindsight to work out what deal will be good for the country.

[drfchound]

Will we immediately know.

[Not Now Kato]

Who says the Germans don't have a sense of humour....
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpncrBOdjaE
 
 

[Axholme Lion]

Anyone know what this is and who agrees with it:

Reduce Immigration
Reject the Common Market
Make Britain Great Again
Scrap Overseas Aid
Rebuild our Armed Forces



of course you knew all the time - its the manefesto of the National Front

What's wrong with any of that?
https://twitter.com/scotwilliams/status/986182667673751552

[wilts rover]

Anyone know what this is and who agrees with it:

Reduce Immigration
Reject the Common Market
Make Britain Great Again
Scrap Overseas Aid
Rebuild our Armed Forces



of course you knew all the time - its the manefesto of the National Front

What's wrong with any of that?
https://twitter.com/scotwilliams/status/986182667673751552

I'm not a fascist rascist. It's a complete coincidence I support the same things they do.

[Not Now Kato]

Seems the folks in Sunderland got what they knew they were voting for....
 
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Nissan-picks-Japan-not-Britain-to-make-Ariya-electric-car-for-EU
 

[SydneyRover]

''Brexit: Boris Johnson says talks in a 'serious situation' after call with EU chief''

and up to this point?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well. We took back control.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1339851685666144258

[Glyn_Wigley]

Well. We took back control.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1339851685666144258

And that's before the Customs Controls start on Jan 1st...

[Axholme Lion]

We're all doomed. It's going to be a right laugh in the homes of you Covid lockdown remainers this year. We'll be fine, keep smiling.

[Glyn_Wigley]

We're all doomed. It's going to be a right laugh in the homes of you Covid lockdown remainers this year. We'll be fine, keep smiling.

But most importantly of all, keep booing. It's a right laugh.

[Not Now Kato]

Well. We took back control.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1339851685666144258

Some of the comments from leavers on there are simply mind boggling.  So much stupidity in one single thread!
 

[Axholme Lion]

We're all doomed. It's going to be a right laugh in the homes of you Covid lockdown remainers this year. We'll be fine, keep smiling.

But most importantly of all, keep booing. It's a right laugh.

B
L
M

Boo Like Millwall.

[Glyn_Wigley]

We're all doomed. It's going to be a right laugh in the homes of you Covid lockdown remainers this year. We'll be fine, keep smiling.

But most importantly of all, keep booing. It's a right laugh.

B
L
M

Boo Like Millwall.

See? I said it was a right laugh!

[pib]

We're all doomed. It's going to be a right laugh in the homes of you Covid lockdown remainers this year. We'll be fine, keep smiling.

Phew. So glad we will be fine.

Was worried for a second there that I was running a business that was trying to plan for 2021 (which is less than a fortnight away) and we still had very little clarity on what the additional costs, tariffs, reputational damage, refund liabilities and costly time consuming admin might be with regards to the hundreds of customers we ship time-sensitive products to on the island of Ireland each week (a large section of which, is actually part of this country).

But hey, "f**k business" eh? They're all just run by millionaire elites anyway. It can't possibly affect ordinary people who have built a business from nothing but their own savings over the space of several years, have never taken any financial support from the state (until this year), have employed local people in meaningful jobs with respectable wages, and have paid out hundreds of thousands to the state in corporation taxes, PAYE tax and VAT without a quibble or delay.

So glad, after all, that there is nothing to worry about.

[Filo]

Look who’s crawled out of the woodwork

https://twitter.com/gbnews24_7/status/1340736359523237888?s=21

[ravenrover]

Is that because charges have now been dropped against the un named MP in the secual misconduct case? Who would have thought it, place in the Cabinet for that lucky man in the next reshuffle nailed on

[ravenrover]

And here we have it folks
French Transport minister says ALL traffic from Uk halted for 48 hours under emergency restrictions
The tap can be turned on or off as they like in the future from Jan onwards