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This Brexit situation is going to be so good for the UK....... isn’t it?
Looks like Europe has brought forward Brexit, Eurotunnel closed and travel by air and sea banned to and from the UK
Quote from: Filo on December 20, 2020, 09:53:30 pmLooks like Europe has brought forward Brexit, Eurotunnel closed and travel by air and sea banned to and from the UKbut we have taken back control...
Don't worry Axholme said we'll be reyt.
I rarely feel ashamed to be British but there's something about sharing a nationality with this piece of shite that makes my skin crawl. https://mobile.twitter.com/kelvmackenzie/status/1341435277001285635He is more responsible than anyone in the country for the ignorant Little Englander mentality that is so prevalent. Never missed an opportunity to whip up xenophobia.And, as usual, he doesn't even get his facts right. France has been an ally of the UK in every major war of the past 200 years.t**t.
We could solve it in a week, send the lorries to car parks in the centre of London and send the French government the bill.
According to Sky News the new strain has also been found in Belgium Gibraltar Denmark and Italy, well the Lord did say share with your fellow man.
I think we should see what's in the deal first. To even get a deal is a pretty big feat for both EU and UK. Let's see if they finally as rumoured agree it today/tomorrow. It's in all of our interests then to make whatever it is work.
BFYP.Absolutely it is our interests to make it work. But be clear. There is no possible future world in which "making it work" means we are not a large amount poorer than we would have been if we hadn't left the SM. It's just a case of minimising the negative hit as much as we can.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 23, 2020, 03:14:56 pmBFYP.Absolutely it is our interests to make it work. But be clear. There is no possible future world in which "making it work" means we are not a large amount poorer than we would have been if we hadn't left the SM. It's just a case of minimising the negative hit as much as we can. Of course you assume everyone is equal, there will be many winners and losers. A new era is something we should be excited about isn't it rather than focussing on the negatives?Also once the EU deal is done a better devolution process from westminster should imo of course.
BFYP.Absolutely it is our interests to make it work. But be clear. There is no possible future world in which "making it work" means we are not a large amount poorer than we would have been if we hadn't left the SM. It's just a case of minimising the negative hit as much as we can.
Apparently, a deal is imminent https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/23/eu-countries-prepare-for-possible-imminent-brexit-deal
BFYPMitterrand immediately banned arms sales to Argentina when the war started. Our Defence Secretary said France was our most important ally in the Falklands War.Regarding the current issue, the UK Govt announced that the new mutation which is believed to be up to 100% more transmissible was "out of control". Those were the precise words from Hancock. Over 40 countries have banned travel from the UK. What exactly was Macron supposed to do?Flip it the other way. If the most dangerous mutation of the virus anywhere in the world was centred in Pas de Calais and Macron had gone on TV and said it was out of control, don't you think we'd be justified in closing the Dover crossing while we sorted out a testing regime? It would be criminally incompetent not to.This "taking back control" thing works both ways.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 23, 2020, 05:22:36 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 23, 2020, 03:14:56 pmBFYP.Absolutely it is our interests to make it work. But be clear. There is no possible future world in which "making it work" means we are not a large amount poorer than we would have been if we hadn't left the SM. It's just a case of minimising the negative hit as much as we can. Of course you assume everyone is equal, there will be many winners and losers. A new era is something we should be excited about isn't it rather than focussing on the negatives?Also once the EU deal is done a better devolution process from westminster should imo of course.But doesn't that depend on how beneficial this new age will be BFYP - as opposed to it just happening? The Industrial Revolution was a wonderful time for the mill/factory/mine & property owners - but not so great for those who worked in them or lived in their slums. It took over a hundred and fifty years and two world wars for ordinary people to have decent and safe working conditions and decent health care - they can go a lot quicker.Brexit was a project devised and implemented by people who want to turn the UK into a de-regulated tax haven with lower workplace and environmental standards.If this doesn't happen it will be a good thing. If it does, well...
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 23, 2020, 03:14:56 pmBFYP.Absolutely it is our interests to make it work. But be clear. There is no possible future world in which "making it work" means we are not a large amount poorer than we would have been if we hadn't left the SM. It's just a case of minimising the negative hit as much as we can. Of course you assume everyone is equal, there will be many winners and losers. A new era is something we should be excited about isn't it rather than focussing on the negatives?Also once the EU deal is done a better devolution process from westminster should imo of course.
BFYP.Absolutely it is our interests to make it work. But be clear. There is no possible future world in which "making it work" means we are not a large amount poorer than we would have been if we hadn't left the SM. It's just a case of minimising the negative hit as much as we can.
We have 5 year olds in the HoC, Star Chamber FFS!https://twitter.com/davidjonesmp/status/1341830397479546881?s=21