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Quote from: IDM on December 06, 2018, 03:46:33 pmDo you actually live in the real world.?I know several young people like you describe and iPhones aside, they don’t have new cars nor go on expensive holidays, and saving for a mortgage deposit is very difficult, never mind getting a mortgage approved..I saved up for everything I've got on a joe bloggs wage packet. The problem with the majority of the youth is that they want everything now. I work in a company where three youngsters around 19-20 years of wage passed their test and went straight into brand new motors on pcp. The age of buying an old mini with the door hanging off for a monkey for your first motor has gone.
Do you actually live in the real world.?I know several young people like you describe and iPhones aside, they don’t have new cars nor go on expensive holidays, and saving for a mortgage deposit is very difficult, never mind getting a mortgage approved..
Considering we haven't even left the EU yet, is the present financial situation more a result of future uncertainty than an actual effect of Brexit?
So it's a bit like saying last July that more Rovers' season tickets would have been sold had it not been for the likelihood of a disastrous season brought on by the appointment of Grant McCann. Had season tickets been undersold as a result McCann's appointment it would have been merely because of his appointment and not his actual effect on the team.Who knows, with the extra backing of the doubters perhaps the extra season ticket sales would have made him even more successful.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on December 06, 2018, 07:12:05 pmSo it's a bit like saying last July that more Rovers' season tickets would have been sold had it not been for the likelihood of a disastrous season brought on by the appointment of Grant McCann. Had season tickets been undersold as a result McCann's appointment it would have been merely because of his appointment and not his actual effect on the team.Who knows, with the extra backing of the doubters perhaps the extra season ticket sales would have made him even more successful.I believe many remainers want Britain to fail so they can say 'I told you so'. If people had started from a position of wanting Britain to succeed rather than rubbishing the nation at every verse end, and telling us how much we need the EU things may have been better. The EU have sensed the weakness and division in Britain and used it to their advantage.The result should have been accepted and everyone should have pulled together, instead of the treacherous sabotage of the likes of the vile Gina Miller and her big business cronies. Such people do not care a jot about the British working class.
If the EU want us to stay in why haven't they offered us changes to make remaining more acceptable already?
Gina Miller went to court to ensure Article 50 was enacted by Parliament, the law of the land upheld her case. The definition of sabotage now apparently includes using the laws of the land to uphold the sovereignty of Parliament, that's why it's so hard to understand what Brexiteers are arguing from when they misrepresent what happened, it's called a fact.
Quote from: Hounslowrover on December 07, 2018, 09:47:15 amGina Miller went to court to ensure Article 50 was enacted by Parliament, the law of the land upheld her case. The definition of sabotage now apparently includes using the laws of the land to uphold the sovereignty of Parliament, that's why it's so hard to understand what Brexiteers are arguing from when they misrepresent what happened, it's called a fact.So you're telling me that Gina Miller and her millionaire chums are concerned for the welfare of the average British worker? All the likes of that lot are concerned with is how little they get away with paying us, or employ an eastern European instead. That's one thing they got right in the Russian revolution sorting the likes of her!
She wants to in the EU which protects workers' rights, leaving will lead to deregulation of the ordinary workers' rights. What about the fact you called her lawful pursuit sabotage?
I think idler has made a very good point.. voting to leave on a matter of principle and then being let down by the politicians..I agree it is better to stay in and argue our case as part of the club..Does that make idler a remoaner.? Not in my book it doesn’t, it’s an honest appraisal of the unfortunate reality we are now faced with..
BBAre you suggesting that an organisation of nearly 500 million should make fundamental changes because of the attitudes of 17 million people, many of whom don't actually seem to know what it does?
Quote from: Axholme Lion on December 07, 2018, 09:35:29 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on December 06, 2018, 07:12:05 pmSo it's a bit like saying last July that more Rovers' season tickets would have been sold had it not been for the likelihood of a disastrous season brought on by the appointment of Grant McCann. Had season tickets been undersold as a result McCann's appointment it would have been merely because of his appointment and not his actual effect on the team.Who knows, with the extra backing of the doubters perhaps the extra season ticket sales would have made him even more successful.I believe many remainers want Britain to fail so they can say 'I told you so'. If people had started from a position of wanting Britain to succeed rather than rubbishing the nation at every verse end, and telling us how much we need the EU things may have been better. The EU have sensed the weakness and division in Britain and used it to their advantage.The result should have been accepted and everyone should have pulled together, instead of the treacherous sabotage of the likes of the vile Gina Miller and her big business cronies. Such people do not care a jot about the British working class.NAIL ON HEAD . Remoaners bleet on about treason. But I say it's THEM that's being treasonous by trying to derail brexit. Much more damaging. I said along time ago, this is a time when we should all pull in the same direction for the good of our country.
Quote from: Boomstick on December 07, 2018, 09:44:58 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on December 07, 2018, 09:35:29 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on December 06, 2018, 07:12:05 pmSo it's a bit like saying last July that more Rovers' season tickets would have been sold had it not been for the likelihood of a disastrous season brought on by the appointment of Grant McCann. Had season tickets been undersold as a result McCann's appointment it would have been merely because of his appointment and not his actual effect on the team.Who knows, with the extra backing of the doubters perhaps the extra season ticket sales would have made him even more successful.I believe many remainers want Britain to fail so they can say 'I told you so'. If people had started from a position of wanting Britain to succeed rather than rubbishing the nation at every verse end, and telling us how much we need the EU things may have been better. The EU have sensed the weakness and division in Britain and used it to their advantage.The result should have been accepted and everyone should have pulled together, instead of the treacherous sabotage of the likes of the vile Gina Miller and her big business cronies. Such people do not care a jot about the British working class.NAIL ON HEAD . Remoaners bleet on about treason. But I say it's THEM that's being treasonous by trying to derail brexit. Much more damaging. I said along time ago, this is a time when we should all pull in the same direction for the good of our country. Good of the country?Every single economic forecast says that Brexit will damage the country. Surely if we're pulling together for the good of the country, then we should all be pulling for Remaining in the EU.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 07, 2018, 03:04:54 pmBBAre you suggesting that an organisation of nearly 500 million should make fundamental changes because of the attitudes of 17 million people, many of whom don't actually seem to know what it does?Don't take this the wrong way, but who are the likes of Malta, Luxembourg, Lithuania and the rest to dictate too us? Some pay in and some take out...