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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: MrFrost on May 14, 2016, 07:17:37 pm
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Wasn't there a statement saying this would be communicated this week?
Why am I not surprised it hasn't materialised?
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Will they include players told to leave?
I thought these are mainly for out of contract players, of which we have very few
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Wasn't there a statement saying this would be communicated this week?
Why am I not surprised it hasn't materialised?
Shit, int it?
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Moan moan bloody moan...
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When is the deadline for releasing a retained list? Have we got there yet, if not, what's the problem?
Exactly how many out of contract players do we have that need to be announced as retained or released??
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Wasn't there a statement saying this would be communicated this week?
Why am I not surprised it hasn't materialised?
Shit, int it?
Moan moan bloody moan...
Just highlighting that the club are not communicating as promised
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When is the deadline for releasing a retained list? Have we got there yet, if not, what's the problem?
Exactly how many out of contract players do we have that need to be announced as retained or released??
It matters because we were told we'd find out who'd be leaving this week.
Just like we were told we'd find out the new ticket prices on May 9th.
Goal posts are forever changing and the happy clappers keep on clapping
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And the moaners keep on moaning.
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Where was the statement about the retained list?
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I'm sure I read Ryan Murrant responding to a message, staying the retained list will be out next week.
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I'm sure I read Ryan Murrant responding to a message, staying the retained list will be out next week.
Spends more time tweeting about an obscure PL team than Rovers these days 😉
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http://m.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/doncaster-rovers-ferguson-set-to-firm-up-retained-list-and-recruitment-plans-with-board-1-7901605
It does say he hoped to release it this week.
I'm guessing it probably won't be as easy to get rid of who he wants to
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http://m.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/doncaster-rovers-ferguson-set-to-firm-up-retained-list-and-recruitment-plans-with-board-1-7901605
It does say he hoped to release it this week.
I'm guessing it probably won't be as easy to get rid of who he wants to
So the club didn't make a Statement?
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http://m.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/doncaster-rovers-ferguson-set-to-firm-up-retained-list-and-recruitment-plans-with-board-1-7901605
It does say he hoped to release it this week.
I'm guessing it probably won't be as easy to get rid of who he wants to
So the club didn't make a Statement?
The manager did. That's good enough for me
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http://m.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/doncaster-rovers-ferguson-set-to-firm-up-retained-list-and-recruitment-plans-with-board-1-7901605
It does say he hoped to release it this week.
I'm guessing it probably won't be as easy to get rid of who he wants to
So the club didn't make a Statement?
The manager did. That's good enough for me
The manager said he hoped and the only record of that is in the DFP, who's abilty to twist a story is legendry round these parts
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http://m.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/doncaster-rovers-ferguson-set-to-firm-up-retained-list-and-recruitment-plans-with-board-1-7901605
It does say he hoped to release it this week.
I'm guessing it probably won't be as easy to get rid of who he wants to
So the club didn't make a Statement?
The manager did. That's good enough for me
The manager said he hoped and the only record of that is in the DFP, who's abilty to twist a story is legendry round these parts
Well Ryan Murrant has stayed it will be early next week.
Let's see if he's got it right.
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When is the deadline for releasing a retained list? Have we got there yet, if not, what's the problem?
Exactly how many out of contract players do we have that need to be announced as retained or released??
It matters because we were told we'd find out who'd be leaving this week.
Just like we were told we'd find out the new ticket prices on May 9th.
Goal posts are forever changing and the happy clappers keep on clapping
And do deadlines never shift in your line of work?
The change of date on ticket pricing has been explained already..
And DF "hoping" the list would be released is hardly a firm commitment to a date is it? The club will be looking at players behind the scenes and talking to agents, and the current players will be looking after themselves similarly. That the conclusions are not yet in the public domain does not mean there's bugger all going on.
So is your concern about the squad, or about the club's communications??
I know which is more important to me!!
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When is the deadline for releasing a retained list? Have we got there yet, if not, what's the problem?
Exactly how many out of contract players do we have that need to be announced as retained or released??
It matters because we were told we'd find out who'd be leaving this week.
Just like we were told we'd find out the new ticket prices on May 9th.
Goal posts are forever changing and the happy clappers keep on clapping
And do deadlines never shift in your line of work?
The change of date on ticket pricing has been explained already..
And DF "hoping" the list would be released is hardly a firm commitment to a date is it? The club will be looking at players behind the scenes and talking to agents, and the current players will be looking after themselves similarly. That the conclusions are not yet in the public domain does not mean there's bugger all going on.
So is your concern about the squad, or about the club's communications??
I know which is more important to me!!
Well, I know for certain there's at least one unwanted player who is intent on sitting on his contract
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"for certain"..
Care to expand? On the Rumour Mill??
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Would expect ats
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For me, announcing early tells the fans the club know who they don't want to offer new deals to and who they are looking to offload whilst still under contract. Plenty of other teams do it but DRFC are always slow to announce.
It would look as if the club have a plan to act early and get a head start on their rivals but let's face it we are usually one of the last to sort these things out.
Personally I think they missed a trick by not announcing early as it shows action after failure.
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Would expect ats
I don't actually think he will be one of the "bomb squad." However the fact he's crocked means we will have to keep him anyway.
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I expect there will be two lists. Released players and those who are available for (free) transfer. Not sure whether the second list will be made public at this stage.
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With 17 players still under contract I don't see how any list can be drawn up
Unless they name players who are up for transfer
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Would expect ats
He will be here next season I think unfortunately, he's had a lot of game time under Fergie.
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There will still be a list, even if it only consists of Marosi and a couple of youngsters.
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Would expect ats
He will be here next season I think unfortunately, he's had a lot of game time under Fergie.
I agree. I think Ferguson sees him as a handy squad player.
He is also one of the few who seems able to operate in a back three. Although actually I think if Ferguson uses that formation regularly next season it will cost us any chance of promotion and eventually cost him his job.
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Wasn't there a statement saying this would be communicated this week?
Why am I not surprised it hasn't materialised?
Shit, int it?
Moan moan bloody moan...
Just highlighting that the club are not communicating as promised
You promised that you were going to stop posting for a week and you didn't keep it. Stones and glass houses come to mind.
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Most of the other sides haven't announced they're full lists, dribs and drabs so far. Of those released by others, many i wouldn't want us to sign, others are probably beyond our reach, Adam Le Fondre being one who is talking to chesterfield.
So far for me, McSheffrey and Rowe i would take, i would leave Chris Neal, i know it sounds stupid but i want a goalkeeper to be signed, who does most of the things needed right, and somebody who we can have as number one for a fair few years.
He isn't terrible, i'm just looking for a bit more from who we sign, while also realising we are a league two side!. I'd like every position for the manager to be methodical and try and get the right one!.
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Where was the statement about the retained list?
Frosty's right, not a statement but Fergie did say on the 6th May.
Jonathan Buchan @jonathanbuchan May 6
Darren Ferguson tells me 8 or so players have been told they can find new clubs. Retained list announced middle of next week #DRFC.
He leaves himself wide open to people like Mr F.
He should say nothing rather than trying to appease the Media / public.
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You're right Eastender. But equally, folk shouldn't be so anal.
Cheers
BobG
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You're right Eastender. But equally, folk shouldn't be so anal.
Cheers
BobG
What's Anal , Bob G :unsure:
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Tight arsed.
BobG
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Tight arsed.
BobG
" Tight arsed " is an anagram " third stage " which means Anaphrase ,not anal .
sorry BG
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Doesn't a retained list just mean players out of contract being offered a contract or not??
Don't we only have 1 player out of contract?
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Where was the statement about the retained list?
Frosty's right, not a statement but Fergie did say on the 6th May.
Jonathan Buchan @jonathanbuchan May 6
Darren Ferguson tells me 8 or so players have been told they can find new clubs. Retained list announced middle of next week #DRFC.
He leaves himself wide open to people like Mr F.
He should say nothing rather than trying to appease the Media / public.
I thought people had learnt the lesson about taking third hand information as gospel?
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Where was the statement about the retained list?
Frosty's right, not a statement but Fergie did say on the 6th May.
Jonathan Buchan @jonathanbuchan May 6
Darren Ferguson tells me 8 or so players have been told they can find new clubs. Retained list announced middle of next week #DRFC.
He leaves himself wide open to people like Mr F.
He should say nothing rather than trying to appease the Media / public.
I took the OP as a suggestion that the club had released a statement regarding the retained list, especially given the last sentence in the OP, which to me just looked like another dig at the club, when it turns out we're actually going on the word of a couple of journalist's
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Where was the statement about the retained list?
Frosty's right, not a statement but Fergie did say on the 6th May.
Jonathan Buchan @jonathanbuchan May 6
Darren Ferguson tells me 8 or so players have been told they can find new clubs. Retained list announced middle of next week #DRFC.
He leaves himself wide open to people like Mr F.
He should say nothing rather than trying to appease the Media / public.
To me, Fergie said nothing at all about the announcement of the retained list, just about the players who have been told to find new clubs. This buhan bloke does not say in any way that Fergie said anything about the retained list, it's a completely separate sentence and to me reads as if it's Buchan himself who's stating when the retained list will be announced.
If you read it a different way, blame Buchan for not making himself clear. Don't blame Fergie for 'leaving himself open' - he didn't write this, and certainly don't blame the club for something they haven't officially announced themselves.
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Is there not a certain date that they have to release the retained/released list by, which is mandated by the FA?
COYR
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Is there not a certain date that they have to release the retained/released list by, which is mandated by the FA?
COYR
They have to inform the FL by a certain date, I believe that to be the 17th of this month.
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Is there not a certain date that they have to release the retained/released list by, which is mandated by the FA?
COYR
I wouldn't have thought it matters much under the current arrangements. Off the top of my head, the only reasoning I can see is to protect out of contract players by affording them sufficient opportunity to go and negotiate a deal elsewhere. But nowadays (as far as my understanding goes) players are permitted to open negotiations with other clubs at any point during the last six months of their contract, so they're hardly in a position of vulnerability.
As such, I don't really get the clamour for us (as a club) to release the list instantly. It's not really going to change anything. Certainly it won't impact on Mr Frost's concern regarding players sitting on the last year of their contract, as by definition they will be under contract, and so you can deduce that they are 'retained' until that contract is terminated and / or they are transferred. We have already been told that players in that position were informed before the season ended. What's the issue again?
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This thread. A microcosm of how, in an era of almost perfect communication, folk can still spin shite if they want.
The story starts with an article saying, "Ferguson said last week that he hoped the club would be in a position this week to announce the retained list."
Continues with someone paraphrasing that on Twitter as, "Retained list announced middle of next week."
Ends with Frosty doing his eternal toddler thing, taking one piece of information and throwing a strop because it'th jutht not FAIR!
Why? Why f**king well do it?
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All the players will have relegation clauses in their contracts. Anyone thinking they can just sit on a lucrative L1 contract might want to reconsider and look for something else.
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Hope you are correct rob.
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Ferguson was asked in interview about retained personnel and his reply was that he expected the list would be finalised by Tuesday or Wednesday (last week). I don't believe he said anything about making the list public, only that the list would be finalised. There may well have been protracted discussions that have prevented the list being finalised in the timescale Fergie expected.
Doesn't warrant another f**king childish paddy really now does it!
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Where was the statement about the retained list?
Frosty's right, not a statement but Fergie did say on the 6th May.
Jonathan Buchan @jonathanbuchan May 6
Darren Ferguson tells me 8 or so players have been told they can find new clubs. Retained list announced middle of next week #DRFC.
He leaves himself wide open to people like Mr F.
He should say nothing rather than trying to appease the Media / public.
To me, Fergie said nothing at all about the announcement of the retained list, just about the players who have been told to find new clubs. This buhan bloke does not say in any way that Fergie said anything about the retained list, it's a completely separate sentence and to me reads as if it's Buchan himself who's stating when the retained list will be announced.
If you read it a different way, blame Buchan for not making himself clear. Don't blame Fergie for 'leaving himself open' - he didn't write this, and certainly don't blame the club for something they haven't officially announced themselves.
yes he did, he said it should be out by mid week but I think it will be Monday or Tuesday this week
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Should, and would have two different meanings
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I'd imagine Curtis Main will be on his way out of the club.
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My guess at timing will be same day as season ticket news 20th. Bury one lot of news with another.
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Isn't it out YET?!?
Bloody rubbish Rovers.