Is it just me or is the reason fergie left becoming justified with the budget ?
I’m not convinced. I’m sure fergie had much better players in mind . All cheap options imo . I thought we would be looking for a decent striker ? But no clearly the new manager has agreed cheap options are the way to go ! We’ve lost a decent manager imo and replaced him with a bloke who agrees with the clubs cheap way of achieving very little.
I’m not convinced. I’m sure fergie had much better players in mind . All cheap options imo . I thought we would be looking for a decent striker ? But no clearly the new manager has agreed cheap options are the way to go ! We’ve lost a decent manager imo and replaced him with a bloke who agrees with the clubs cheap way of achieving very little.
I’m not convinced. I’m sure fergie had much better players in mind . All cheap options imo . I thought we would be looking for a decent striker ? But no clearly the new manager has agreed cheap options are the way to go ! We’ve lost a decent manager imo and replaced him with a bloke who agrees with the clubs cheap way of achieving very little.
All doom and gloom. How about getting behind our club , manager and the boys!!! ⚽️ Rtid
I’m not convinced. I’m sure fergie had much better players in mind . All cheap options imo . I thought we would be looking for a decent striker ? But no clearly the new manager has agreed cheap options are the way to go ! We’ve lost a decent manager imo and replaced him with a bloke who agrees with the clubs cheap way of achieving very little.
Oh and what happened to this manager working with the existing back room staff? Complete garbage! Strachan gone and russ Wilcox too! Let’s have some honesty Drfc!!!
Oh and what happened to this manager working with the existing back room staff? Complete garbage! Strachan gone and russ Wilcox too! Let’s have some honesty Drfc!!!
All doom and gloom. How about getting behind our club , manager and the boys!!! ⚽️ Rtid
IDM, how do you know he is?
Answer the op's question. I've given my opinion.
IDM, how do you know he is?
Answer the op's question. I've given my opinion.
Careful Alan, you'll get ripped to pieces on here if your opinion is different to the general consensus.
IDM, how do you know he is?
Answer the op's question. I've given my opinion.
The player not mentioned here is also going to be a cheap option, but could be a star, excellent choice IMO.
And then there will be others. As for there not being much time for players to bed in, we have a fairly established squad so it's not the same as it is for some clubs who have made more major changes. I'm so far happy with what we are seeing with the input of freshness with a few players plus the new manager's style and enthusiasm. The quality will show, or not, there's no way of telling so soon.
The player not mentioned here is also going to be a cheap option, but could be a star, excellent choice IMO.
And then there will be others. As for there not being much time for players to bed in, we have a fairly established squad so it's not the same as it is for some clubs who have made more major changes. I'm so far happy with what we are seeing with the input of freshness with a few players plus the new manager's style and enthusiasm. The quality will show, or not, there's no way of telling so soon.
Unfortunately if what GM has supposedly said to the DFP there will be no more new faces coming in. I don't know if that includes the lad from Bristol City.
The player not mentioned here is also going to be a cheap option, but could be a star, excellent choice IMO.
And then there will be others. As for there not being much time for players to bed in, we have a fairly established squad so it's not the same as it is for some clubs who have made more major changes. I'm so far happy with what we are seeing with the input of freshness with a few players plus the new manager's style and enthusiasm. The quality will show, or not, there's no way of telling so soon.
Unfortunately if what GM has supposedly said to the DFP there will be no more new faces coming in. I don't know if that includes the lad from Bristol City.
Where has McCann said he’s not bringing anyone else in.
The player not mentioned here is also going to be a cheap option, but could be a star, excellent choice IMO.
And then there will be others. As for there not being much time for players to bed in, we have a fairly established squad so it's not the same as it is for some clubs who have made more major changes. I'm so far happy with what we are seeing with the input of freshness with a few players plus the new manager's style and enthusiasm. The quality will show, or not, there's no way of telling so soon.
Unfortunately if what GM has supposedly said to the DFP there will be no more new faces coming in. I don't know if that includes the lad from Bristol City.
Where has McCann said he’s not bringing anyone else in.
I suppose it depends on how you interpret what is quoted in the paper. To me "Along with the potential signing of trialist Paul Taylor - who featured in Tuesday's friendly win at Frickley Athletic - McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market. "I think if we got that attacking player in then I'd be quite pleased" he told the Free Press.
would indicate he is not looking to bring anyone else in.
The player not mentioned here is also going to be a cheap option, but could be a star, excellent choice IMO.
And then there will be others. As for there not being much time for players to bed in, we have a fairly established squad so it's not the same as it is for some clubs who have made more major changes. I'm so far happy with what we are seeing with the input of freshness with a few players plus the new manager's style and enthusiasm. The quality will show, or not, there's no way of telling so soon.
Unfortunately if what GM has supposedly said to the DFP there will be no more new faces coming in. I don't know if that includes the lad from Bristol City.
Where has McCann said he’s not bringing anyone else in.
I suppose it depends on how you interpret what is quoted in the paper. To me "Along with the potential signing of trialist Paul Taylor - who featured in Tuesday's friendly win at Frickley Athletic - McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market. "I think if we got that attacking player in then I'd be quite pleased" he told the Free Press.
would indicate he is not looking to bring anyone else in.
Well let’s hope he’s just trying to not give anything away. Signing 1 more striker plus Taylor is not enough... we still need 2 more midfielders plus at least 1 defender. What happens if we get an injury to a defender early on like we did with Andrews last season. Still light in that department for me
https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/posh/breaking-news-peterborough-united-have-a-million-pound-bid-for-a-striker-rejected-and-two-players-turn-down-the-chance-to-leave-the-abax-stadium-1-8563882
seems we don't have any cash to spend when shrewsbury can pay more than us
The player not mentioned here is also going to be a cheap option, but could be a star, excellent choice IMO.
And then there will be others. As for there not being much time for players to bed in, we have a fairly established squad so it's not the same as it is for some clubs who have made more major changes. I'm so far happy with what we are seeing with the input of freshness with a few players plus the new manager's style and enthusiasm. The quality will show, or not, there's no way of telling so soon.
Unfortunately if what GM has supposedly said to the DFP there will be no more new faces coming in. I don't know if that includes the lad from Bristol City.
Where has McCann said he’s not bringing anyone else in.
I suppose it depends on how you interpret what is quoted in the paper. To me "Along with the potential signing of trialist Paul Taylor - who featured in Tuesday's friendly win at Frickley Athletic - McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market. "I think if we got that attacking player in then I'd be quite pleased" he told the Free Press.
would indicate he is not looking to bring anyone else in.
Well let’s hope he’s just trying to not give anything away. Signing 1 more striker plus Taylor is not enough... we still need 2 more midfielders plus at least 1 defender. What happens if we get an injury to a defender early on like we did with Andrews last season. Still light in that department for me
I agree totally. If it is correct though it certainly would open a few questions regarding "The budget"
The player not mentioned here is also going to be a cheap option, but could be a star, excellent choice IMO.
And then there will be others. As for there not being much time for players to bed in, we have a fairly established squad so it's not the same as it is for some clubs who have made more major changes. I'm so far happy with what we are seeing with the input of freshness with a few players plus the new manager's style and enthusiasm. The quality will show, or not, there's no way of telling so soon.
Unfortunately if what GM has supposedly said to the DFP there will be no more new faces coming in. I don't know if that includes the lad from Bristol City.
Where has McCann said he’s not bringing anyone else in.
I suppose it depends on how you interpret what is quoted in the paper. To me "Along with the potential signing of trialist Paul Taylor - who featured in Tuesday's friendly win at Frickley Athletic - McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market. "I think if we got that attacking player in then I'd be quite pleased" he told the Free Press.
would indicate he is not looking to bring anyone else in.
Well let’s hope he’s just trying to not give anything away. Signing 1 more striker plus Taylor is not enough... we still need 2 more midfielders plus at least 1 defender. What happens if we get an injury to a defender early on like we did with Andrews last season. Still light in that department for me
I agree totally. If it is correct though it certainly would open a few questions regarding "The budget"
You totally agree with your own opinion. Purple helmet
That offer of a million for a lower division striker must take the value of Marquis a lot higher than that.
If the lad from Bristol City joins us, with the lad from Leeds, I can see the two Alfies getting a lot of bench time this season, and one eventualy going on loan.
Probably Blair or Kiwomya as well unless we play wide men.
Probably Blair or Kiwomya as well unless we play wide men.
After the excitement of Mansfield Town’s triple signing on Friday, the club are rumoured to be set to pounce for Doncaster Rovers winger Alex Kiwomya. The 22-year-old, who came through Chelsea’s youth academy, signed a three-year deal at Rovers last summer after enjoying loan spells at Barnsley, Fleetwood Town and Crewe Alexandra. He played 12 games for Rovers last season, scoring once.
Read more at: https://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/mansfield-town/are-stags-set-to-pounce-for-kiwomya-1-9230454
QuoteAfter the excitement of Mansfield Town’s triple signing on Friday, the club are rumoured to be set to pounce for Doncaster Rovers winger Alex Kiwomya. The 22-year-old, who came through Chelsea’s youth academy, signed a three-year deal at Rovers last summer after enjoying loan spells at Barnsley, Fleetwood Town and Crewe Alexandra. He played 12 games for Rovers last season, scoring once.
Read more at: https://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/mansfield-town/are-stags-set-to-pounce-for-kiwomya-1-9230454
This, from 2nd July.
Hang on a minute, when has anyone from the Club rubbished the 'rumours' from Mansfield. There may well have been an offer made, as far as anyone knows on here (unless, of course, someone has inside knowledge).
The Club have seen fit, all too readily, to distance themselves from the Bristol report, but yet I have seen nothing re Kiwomya.
Give people a break.
Next, you'll be telling us that no-one has shown any interest in Marquis.
What has the budget got to do with the op's question?
QuoteProbably Blair or Kiwomya as well unless we play wide men.
Don't forget, Selby, Mansfield were after Kiwomya! Maybe, there's something in him going, also.
Also, we've now lost another wage, with Mandeville departing on loan to Morecambe (bit of a round trip for you, Selby ;))
I sincerely hope we have 'irons in the fire'.
QuoteProbably Blair or Kiwomya as well unless we play wide men.
Don't forget, Selby, Mansfield were after Kiwomya! Maybe, there's something in him going, also.
Also, we've now lost another wage, with Mandeville departing on loan to Morecambe (bit of a round trip for you, Selby ;))
I sincerely hope we have 'irons in the fire'.
I may be wrong Alan, but I think we'll still be paying some of Mandeville's wages.
Didn't you read his very first post in this thread and the question in it he wants us to answer?
I may be wrong Alan, but I think we'll still be paying some of Mandeville's wages.
QuoteDidn't you read his very first post in this thread and the question in it he wants us to answer?
But that is not the first question he asked and it's the title of the thread in question! You answered the 2nd question, which was more about the op's own personal query based on his feelings about things!
Now, what's your answer to q1?
Can't believe he'll be happy with this squad and actually I haven't seen him saying it anywhere?
Is it just me or do we have these “we’ve no money”, “our signings are shit”, “the board aren’t ambitious” debates every pre season?It's you, we don't
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on July 12, 2018, 09:49:54 PM
Can't believe he'll be happy with this squad and actually I haven't seen him saying it anywhere?
I've searched for that statement and can't find it anywhere.
When applications were invited for the job, the criteria for applicants were to come in and work with the current backroom team, so far Strachen and Wilcox have left, with GM stating he wanted his own people in, thats one of the criteria broken. The applicant must demonstrate the ability to work at Championship level or it's equivalent , I can't see where that criteria is being met either. And now we see the beginings of the recruitment process and things don't look too inspiring at the moment. Things definitely don't look rosey behind the scenes from the outside looking in
Is it just me or do we have these “we’ve no money”, “our signings are shit”, “the board aren’t ambitious” debates every pre season?It's you, we don't
QuoteQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on July 12, 2018, 09:49:54 PM
Can't believe he'll be happy with this squad and actually I haven't seen him saying it anywhere?
I've searched for that statement and can't find it anywhere.
It's on page 2 of this very thread........see Cantley Rover's post.
When applications were invited for the job, the criteria for applicants were to come in and work with the current backroom team, so far Strachen and Wilcox have left, with GM stating he wanted his own people in, thats one of the criteria broken. The applicant must demonstrate the ability to work at Championship level or it's equivalent , I can't see where that criteria is being met either. And now we see the beginings of the recruitment process and things don't look too inspiring at the moment. Things definitely don't look rosey behind the scenes from the outside looking in
The fact out previous manager walked out was the most worrying thing of all Filo.
QuoteQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on July 12, 2018, 09:49:54 PM
Can't believe he'll be happy with this squad and actually I haven't seen him saying it anywhere?
I've searched for that statement and can't find it anywhere.
It's on page 2 of this very thread........see Cantley Rover's post.
I will reserve final judgement until the transfer window shuts and we can evaluate what we have. There is still plenty of time to get some more players in and hopefully that will happen.Fully agree about needing a strong def mid-fielder but again Houghton was a loan not one of ours. As for replacing Baudry surely Anderson IS the replacement
It’s not my place to comment on the budget and I’ll trust what we’ve been told - that it has not reduced. But the simple fact at this point in time is that the squad is weaker than the one that finished last season.
Williams’ departure should in theory provide an opportunity to bring in a quality striker. Mandeville’s departure compounds this. We have not addressed this yet.
Houghton’s departure highlights the need to bring in a quality central midfield player. We have not done this yet. (Crawford is more of a number 10 and hopefully adds something there).
Anderson was secured on a permanent so that one is sorted. But there’s an argument to say we need to replace Baudry if we are to maintain the status quo let alone strengthen. Especially with Alcock having gone and Garratt now leaving.
So all in all we are unquestionably weaker at this point. Plenty still to do if we are to challenge for the top 6.
I will reserve final judgement until the transfer window shuts and we can evaluate what we have. There is still plenty of time to get some more players in and hopefully that will happen.Fully agree about needing a strong def mid-fielder but again Houghton was a loan not one of ours. As for replacing Baudry surely Anderson IS the replacement
It’s not my place to comment on the budget and I’ll trust what we’ve been told - that it has not reduced. But the simple fact at this point in time is that the squad is weaker than the one that finished last season.
Williams’ departure should in theory provide an opportunity to bring in a quality striker. Mandeville’s departure compounds this. We have not addressed this yet.
Houghton’s departure highlights the need to bring in a quality central midfield player. We have not done this yet. (Crawford is more of a number 10 and hopefully adds something there).
Anderson was secured on a permanent so that one is sorted. But there’s an argument to say we need to replace Baudry if we are to maintain the status quo let alone strengthen. Especially with Alcock having gone and Garratt now leaving.
So all in all we are unquestionably weaker at this point. Plenty still to do if we are to challenge for the top 6.
For me we need a bit more depth mainly at center mid but I'd take this team for first game of the season.Crawford Marquis Coppinger
Rowe McCullough Whiteman
Andrew Butler Wright Mason
Lawlor
Marosi
Amos
Anderson
Blair
Beestin
Kiwomya
May
For me we need a bit more depth mainly at center mid but I'd take this team for first game of the season.Crawford Marquis Coppinger
Rowe McCullough Whiteman
Andrew Butler Wright Mason
Lawlor
Marosi
Amos
Anderson
Blair
Beestin
Kiwomya
May
Where would you have Malik Wilks and Taylor(if we sign him)
As above, I think Anderson replaces Anderson (following his brief return to Burnley). Don’t get me wrong I think he’s an excellent addition, but we are still short in central defence given that numbers wise we will be missing Baudry, Alcock, Boyle and Garratt.
McCann says business done....
You could say Blaney replaces Baudry. Also, we won't be playing 3 a the back.
McCann says business done....
Where is this been put into the public domain please?
McCann says business done....
Where is this been put into the public domain please?
It’s a story just been released on the free press website that McCann has pretty much said 1 more attacking player and we’re about done...
so we have lost baudry, Williams, evina, Alcock, plus the loans of houghton, kongolo and Boyle and only brought in Anderson, Crawford and the young lad on loan from Leeds... the board says the budget has gone up but where the hell has it been spent. We’re still 4 players short of having a competitive squad. Not looking good.
McCann says business done....
Where is this been put into the public domain please?
It’s a story just been released on the free press website that McCann has pretty much said 1 more attacking player and we’re about done...
so we have lost baudry, Williams, evina, Alcock, plus the loans of houghton, kongolo and Boyle and only brought in Anderson, Crawford and the young lad on loan from Leeds... the board says the budget has gone up but where the hell has it been spent. We’re still 4 players short of having a competitive squad. Not looking good.
But we have Amos who is also a CB/lb
We also have some of the graduates from the youth system longbottom for example
So
Are we getting obsessed with signing players just for the sake of signing them?
For me we need a bit more depth mainly at center mid but I'd take this team for first game of the season.Crawford Marquis Coppinger
Rowe McCullough Whiteman
Andrew Butler Wright Mason
Lawlor
Marosi
Amos
Anderson
Blair
Beestin
Kiwomya
May
For me we need a bit more depth mainly at center mid but I'd take this team for first game of the season.Crawford Marquis Coppinger
Rowe McCullough Whiteman
Andrew Butler Wright Mason
Lawlor
Marosi
Amos
Anderson
Blair
Beestin
Kiwomya
May
that 11 isn't bad and there's Besestin/Kiwomya/Wilks who can come in for copps or Crawford (who may be in the midfield 3 we don't know yet) so there is depth in attack. But i'd like us to focus on getting another proper number 9 to compete with Marquis (or if he gets sold very late on) and another proper midfielder to replace McCullough. Grant from Posh fits the midfield description and the striker from Bristol City could be the 9. A club our size can't operate with 3 players for every position we're always going to need players like Mason or Blair to come in and do a job.
We need more depth but at the moment we've got a decent first XI.
For me we need a bit more depth mainly at center mid but I'd take this team for first game of the season.Crawford Marquis Coppinger
Rowe McCullough Whiteman
Andrew Butler Wright Mason
Lawlor
Marosi
Amos
Anderson
Blair
Beestin
Kiwomya
May
that 11 isn't bad and there's Besestin/Kiwomya/Wilks who can come in for copps or Crawford (who may be in the midfield 3 we don't know yet) so there is depth in attack. But i'd like us to focus on getting another proper number 9 to compete with Marquis (or if he gets sold very late on) and another proper midfielder to replace McCullough. Grant from Posh fits the midfield description and the striker from Bristol City could be the 9. A club our size can't operate with 3 players for every position we're always going to need players like Mason or Blair to come in and do a job.
What square pegs in round holes never?
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195
If he believes that then let’s hope it’s just talk because if it’s actually the case we won’t be good enough for top 10 in my opinion
For me we need a bit more depth mainly at center mid but I'd take this team for first game of the season.Crawford Marquis Coppinger
Rowe McCullough Whiteman
Andrew Butler Wright Mason
Lawlor
Marosi
Amos
Anderson
Blair
Beestin
Kiwomya
May
Where would you have Malik Wilks and Taylor(if we sign him)
Be dale - are you serious?
The Board's stated aim this season is top 6, not bottom 6! We are nowhere near a strong enough squad to challenge the upper reaches of this division......yet. It is to be hoped that there are a couple of rabbits yet to be pulled out of the proverbial hat.
Be dale - are you serious?
The Board's stated aim this season is top 6, not bottom 6! We are nowhere near a strong enough squad to challenge the upper reaches of this division......yet. It is to be hoped that there are a couple of rabbits yet to be pulled out of the proverbial hat.
Do you think that Shrewsbury players and fans thought they would be top six?
Do you think Leicester thought they would win the premier league?
What we think and what happens are two different things
It is all about the team and how the gel and how well they perform collectively
Games are won on grass not on paper
Be dale - are you serious?
The Board's stated aim this season is top 6, not bottom 6! We are nowhere near a strong enough squad to challenge the upper reaches of this division......yet. It is to be hoped that there are a couple of rabbits yet to be pulled out of the proverbial hat.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195
If he believes that then let’s hope it’s just talk because if it’s actually the case we won’t be good enough for top 10 in my opinion
I’d agree with that, there are no signs off a push for promotion with this team at this moment in time.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195
If he believes that then let’s hope it’s just talk because if it’s actually the case we won’t be good enough for top 10 in my opinion
I’d agree with that, there are no signs off a push for promotion with this team at this moment in time.
So why are people arguing that Anderson is not a replacement for Baudry?
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195
If he believes that then let’s hope it’s just talk because if it’s actually the case we won’t be good enough for top 10 in my opinion
I was and still am fairly useless when it comes to maths but humour me on thus one
We start a season with 3 recognised centre backs
2 are injured so we bring in 2 on loan
When all are fit we have 3 + 2 on loan
At the end of the season 2 on loan return to their clubs leaving us with the original 3
1 departs the club leaving 2 but we then sign permanently a 3rd so we have now replaced the 1 who left
Baudry leaves Anderson is signed as a replacement, where have I gone wrong :huh:
Of course we need to think about replacing the loan players given their significant contribution to our first choice team. It would be utterly stupid not to think about that unless we want to accept our squad will be weaker rather than stronger.
Oh, hang on, isn’t that the very point of this whole debate...
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195
There is absolutely nothing in what McCann is quoted as saying that justifies that headline whatsoever. If McCann did say it, why hasn't it been quoted alongside all the other stuff he's been quoted as saying? That articles stinks of fish
Just the DFP with their usual click bait headline.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195
There is absolutely nothing in what McCann is quoted as saying that justifies that headline whatsoever. If McCann did say it, why hasn't it been quoted alongside all the other stuff he's been quoted as saying? That articles stinks of fish
Just the DFP with their usual click bait headline.
That's what I think too. Unfortunately the decline of the newspapers makes fake headlines more likely as they try to get income from clickbait.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195
There is absolutely nothing in what McCann is quoted as saying that justifies that headline whatsoever. If McCann did say it, why hasn't it been quoted alongside all the other stuff he's been quoted as saying? That articles stinks of fish
Just the DFP with their usual click bait headline.
That's what I think too. Unfortunately the decline of the newspapers makes fake headlines more likely as they try to get income from clickbait.
If is a fake headline like you and others suggest it’s easy for GM or the club to deny it and give the version that is true.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195
There is absolutely nothing in what McCann is quoted as saying that justifies that headline whatsoever. If McCann did say it, why hasn't it been quoted alongside all the other stuff he's been quoted as saying? That articles stinks of fish
Just the DFP with their usual click bait headline.
That's what I think too. Unfortunately the decline of the newspapers makes fake headlines more likely as they try to get income from clickbait.
If is a fake headline like you and others suggest it’s easy for GM or the club to deny it and give the version that is true.
'If it's a fake headline'? What in the article itself makes it not a fake headline?
Glyn I’m not bothered how one line in the article is interpreted.
Come Aug 9th he will not hope have a squad to achieve the clubs goal of top six finish. It’s not about hope I was told it will happen.
I wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?"
I wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?"
I wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?"
I wonder the same about Terry Bramall and the rest of the board
I wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?"
I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.
I wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?"
I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.
I'm not sure which part of what Hoden says is unsubstantiated? Are you suggesting Grant McCann didn't say these things to Hoden or are you insinuating Hoden is lying?
I wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?"
I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.
I'm not sure which part of what Hoden says is unsubstantiated? Are you suggesting Grant McCann didn't say these things to Hoden or are you insinuating Hoden is lying?
I'm saying that Hoden has reported an interview, and quoted McCann heavily from it, then written a headline that the interview itself doesn't mention. It is that headline that is unsubstantiated - unless perhaps I've missed it and you can point me to where McCann says in the interview what his future transfer plans are?
I'm not saying Hoden is lying. McCann may very well have said what Hoden says he did. It's just extremely odd for Hoden not to then include it in the reported interview...which is bloody awful journalism!
I wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?"
I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.
I'm not sure which part of what Hoden says is unsubstantiated? Are you suggesting Grant McCann didn't say these things to Hoden or are you insinuating Hoden is lying?
I'm saying that Hoden has reported an interview, and quoted McCann heavily from it, then written a headline that the interview itself doesn't mention. It is that headline that is unsubstantiated - unless perhaps I've missed it and you can point me to where McCann says in the interview what his future transfer plans are?
I'm not saying Hoden is lying. McCann may very well have said what Hoden says he did. It's just extremely odd for Hoden not to then include it in the reported interview...which is bloody awful journalism!
To be fair to Liam Hoden, does he actually get to write the headline or does that fall to some sub editor?
I wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?"
I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.
I'm not sure which part of what Hoden says is unsubstantiated? Are you suggesting Grant McCann didn't say these things to Hoden or are you insinuating Hoden is lying?
I'm saying that Hoden has reported an interview, and quoted McCann heavily from it, then written a headline that the interview itself doesn't mention. It is that headline that is unsubstantiated - unless perhaps I've missed it and you can point me to where McCann says in the interview what his future transfer plans are?
I'm not saying Hoden is lying. McCann may very well have said what Hoden says he did. It's just extremely odd for Hoden not to then include it in the reported interview...which is bloody awful journalism!
To be fair to Liam Hoden, does he actually get to write the headline or does that fall to some sub editor?
Whoever it is, it's them to blame for all this because people are reading the headline and believing it without reading the article and realising it's crap. And then it's getting posted all over there as true.
McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.
Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.
Interpretation?
I wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?"
I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.
I'm not sure which part of what Hoden says is unsubstantiated? Are you suggesting Grant McCann didn't say these things to Hoden or are you insinuating Hoden is lying?
I'm saying that Hoden has reported an interview, and quoted McCann heavily from it, then written a headline that the interview itself doesn't mention. It is that headline that is unsubstantiated - unless perhaps I've missed it and you can point me to where McCann says in the interview what his future transfer plans are?
I'm not saying Hoden is lying. McCann may very well have said what Hoden says he did. It's just extremely odd for Hoden not to then include it in the reported interview...which is bloody awful journalism!
To be fair to Liam Hoden, does he actually get to write the headline or does that fall to some sub editor?
Whoever it is, it's them to blame for all this because people are reading the headline and believing it without reading the article and realising it's crap. And then it's getting posted all over there as true.
I'm sorry but I have read the headline and the article and cannot see how you come to the conclusion it's crap. Perhaps you could explain.
Be dale - are you serious?
The Board's stated aim this season is top 6, not bottom 6! We are nowhere near a strong enough squad to challenge the upper reaches of this division......yet. It is to be hoped that there are a couple of rabbits yet to be pulled out of the proverbial hat.
Do you think that Shrewsbury players and fans thought they would be top six?
Do you think Leicester thought they would win the premier league?
What we think and what happens are two different things
It is all about the team and how the gel and how well they perform collectively
Games are won on grass not on paperhttps://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195
If he believes that then let’s hope it’s just talk because if it’s actually the case we won’t be good enough for top 10 in my opinion
I’d agree with that, there are no signs off a push for promotion with this team at this moment in time.https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195
If he believes that then let’s hope it’s just talk because if it’s actually the case we won’t be good enough for top 10 in my opinion
I’d agree with that, there are no signs off a push for promotion with this team at this moment in time.
Has the season started then?
No matter how much the VSC try to defend the current situation there is an awful lot of dissatisfied fans out there unhappy with the the way things currently are.
I would like to see the club offer refunds to unhappy fans that don't see their ticket money spent wisely.
I have read little that is positive (other than from the VSC) about where we are going.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/doncaster-rovers-hoping-youth-paves-the-way-to-fame-and-fortune/
We have now sunk to 19th on the bookies site https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/league-1/winner
Hardly what I would expect for what we are being told will be a top 6 position at the end of the season.
McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.
Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.
Interpretation?
And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.
The VSC and posters in the pockets of the club can say what they want but the wider world knows better. Of course the VSC will say "everyone everywhere is talking b*llocks and got it wrong".
McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.
Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.
Interpretation?
And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.
OK so you are saying Hoden is lying then fair enough.
Cantley, you should know that everyone, everywhere is a liar except the VSC and DROS. So say the VSC.
McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.
Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.
Interpretation?
And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.
OK so you are saying Hoden is lying then fair enough.
Putting words in my mouth isn't fair enough but it's obviously your stock in trade to justify what you say.
McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.
Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.
Interpretation?
And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.
OK so you are saying Hoden is lying then fair enough.
Putting words in my mouth isn't fair enough but it's obviously your stock in trade to justify what you say.
But if you are disputing that Grant McCann said what Liam Hoden printed then obviously the only conclusion to come to is that you think he is not telling the truth ie lying.
McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.
Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.
Interpretation?
And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.
OK so you are saying Hoden is lying then fair enough.
Putting words in my mouth isn't fair enough but it's obviously your stock in trade to justify what you say.
But if you are disputing that Grant McCann said what Liam Hoden printed then obviously the only conclusion to come to is that you think he is not telling the truth ie lying.
So he couldn't be mistaken at all then?
McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.
Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.
Interpretation?
McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.
Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.
Interpretation?
And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.
OK so you are saying Hoden is lying then fair enough.
Putting words in my mouth isn't fair enough but it's obviously your stock in trade to justify what you say.
But if you are disputing that Grant McCann said what Liam Hoden printed then obviously the only conclusion to come to is that you think he is not telling the truth ie lying.
So he couldn't be mistaken at all then?
Come on you can do better than that.
The VSC and posters in the pockets of the club can say what they want but the wider world knows better. Of course the VSC will say "everyone everywhere is talking b*llocks and got it wrong".
Apparently McCann is now finished in the transfer market, so we have a youth team player from Leeds and a Scottish midfielder to add to the squad that finished a relatively comfortable lower mid-table last season. So where is the vast improvement going to come from to "push for the top 6"? I can't see it myself. I wish I could be proved wrong.
Apparently McCann is now finished in the transfer market, so we have a youth team player from Leeds and a Scottish midfielder to add to the squad that finished a relatively comfortable lower mid-table last season. So where is the vast improvement going to come from to "push for the top 6"? I can't see it myself. I wish I could be proved wrong.
A serious lack of ambition and More interested in club Doncaster that’s the problem
At this moment we have no idea whether McCann is better or worse than Ferguson only time will tell, but we shouldn't assume he is better. Ferguson was not sacked he resigned out of despair with where the club is going and we can all see why. I don't understand why there is not more money in the coffers this year. Have we massively undersold season tickets or what? I don't remember having such severe issues in the last several years. We normally make what we can consider reasonable signings most summers.
how ?A serious lack of ambition and More interested in club Doncaster that’s the problem
Good if they're interested in something (Club Doncaster) that'll increase our transfer budget.
how ?A serious lack of ambition and More interested in club Doncaster that’s the problem
Good if they're interested in something (Club Doncaster) that'll increase our transfer budget.
how ?A serious lack of ambition and More interested in club Doncaster that’s the problem
Good if they're interested in something (Club Doncaster) that'll increase our transfer budget.
like I said, how ?how ?A serious lack of ambition and More interested in club Doncaster that’s the problem
Good if they're interested in something (Club Doncaster) that'll increase our transfer budget.
Because ClubDoncaster actually makes money
If club Doncaster is doing that well why are we signing kids, people who’ve played 14 games in 18 month and giving trials to overweight players who like a drink with suspendedprison sentences???? I’ve heard a solid rumour but I won’t put it on here, if it’s right then there’s a cash flow issue, might be temporary or permanent, but until the powers that be say something I can’t comment and I won’t...
Lol, I agree mate, there’s something amiss I think I know the answer and SM will definitely know.... but I’m not putting it on, it’s upto the board and Baldwin to make a statement,
Lol, I agree mate, there’s something amiss I think I know the answer and SM will definitely know.... but I’m not putting it on, it’s upto the board and Baldwin to make a statement,
If club Doncaster is doing that well why are we signing kids, people who’ve played 14 games in 18 month and giving trials to overweight players who like a drink with suspendedprison sentences???? I’ve heard a solid rumour but I won’t put it on here, if it’s right then there’s a cash flow issue, might be temporary or permanent, but until the powers that be say something I can’t comment and I won’t...
well you can have solid shits or runny shits, but at the end of the day they're still shits 😀😀😀If club Doncaster is doing that well why are we signing kids, people who’ve played 14 games in 18 month and giving trials to overweight players who like a drink with suspendedprison sentences???? I’ve heard a solid rumour but I won’t put it on here, if it’s right then there’s a cash flow issue, might be temporary or permanent, but until the powers that be say something I can’t comment and I won’t...
How can you have a solid rumour?
If club Doncaster is doing that well why are we signing kids, people who’ve played 14 games in 18 month and giving trials to overweight players who like a drink with suspendedprison sentences???? I’ve heard a solid rumour but I won’t put it on here, if it’s right then there’s a cash flow issue, might be temporary or permanent, but until the powers that be say something I can’t comment and I won’t...
How can you have a solid rumour?
well you can have solid shits or runny shits, but at the end of the day they're still shits 😀😀😀If club Doncaster is doing that well why are we signing kids, people who’ve played 14 games in 18 month and giving trials to overweight players who like a drink with suspendedprison sentences???? I’ve heard a solid rumour but I won’t put it on here, if it’s right then there’s a cash flow issue, might be temporary or permanent, but until the powers that be say something I can’t comment and I won’t...
How can you have a solid rumour?
There is little to argue about here really.
Even at our current rate of spending we make a loss each season of well over a million quid. Up to two million I recall.
Someone has to foot that bill otherwise we have to either reduce expenditure or find new miraculous income. Note also that even at height of Championship success we rarely filled the stadium. If ever.
So we need a plan that involves either the owners continuining to give away millions of their money with no hope of ever seeing this (note that this is millions, not thousands or even tens or hundreds of thousands but millions) or try over a period to get the club on a footing where it can more or less pay for itself.
To do this we either find more supporters willing to pay lots more money, or we cut expenditure massively (we would basically be cutting wage bill in half to recoup that million or so quid) or do what owners are doing and trying to find some contribution from commercial income and a ‘develop and sell’ model.
So what we are talking about here is how we make the best use of the budget we have - there is no question of talking about a bigger budget from the pockets of our owners. It ain’t going to happen and nor should it!
The manager needs to identify players that can take us forward and then like Marquis no doubt, be sold for a load of money.
Just so long as we don’t get treated to some of the utter dross of last season under Ferguson.
There's definitely no cash flow issue.SM, is there some sort of issue, then, as there just appears to be something not quite right. Are we hanging back with our quality signings for a reason?
Hasn't McCann said he's finished with the transfer market. He did. We have a team no better than last year
Fergie new how to get out of this division, McCann doesn't. Why change, McCann is cheaper, he has a desire and willingness to play the kids, cheaper than Fergies quality players, All McCann has done is switch to 433 and we've only one strìker. He's not spent any money at all one in one out, if you look Dosnt look good to me. Personally can we really afford a championship budget. Or is it just marketing by the board,
The board know the costs and the answer to that one.
We need investment a take over.
Until then we are just a football team Too good for div2 not good enough for a top 6 div 1
With Liam Hoden tweeting that having spoke to McCann were looking at adding one more striker and that’s us done... we are lacking in midfield. You can’t rely on McCullough fitness wise. We haven’t replaced houghton and to a lesser extent kongolo. We have no depth at all defensively. Where has this larger budget been spent. We have only brought in Crawford, Anderson and the lad on loan and released 5 and sent 4 loans back... that’s 3 In 9 out and we were lacking in depth last season.... makes you wonder if that’s why we kept Lund because he won’t be on much.
With Liam Hoden tweeting that having spoke to McCann were looking at adding one more striker and that’s us done... we are lacking in midfield. You can’t rely on McCullough fitness wise. We haven’t replaced houghton and to a lesser extent kongolo. We have no depth at all defensively. Where has this larger budget been spent. We have only brought in Crawford, Anderson and the lad on loan and released 5 and sent 4 loans back... that’s 3 In 9 out and we were lacking in depth last season.... makes you wonder if that’s why we kept Lund because he won’t be on much.
If we’ve got a larger budget, and considering Williams will have been on a fair whack it surely cannot all be spent.
Maybe McCann is saving some until January when he will have had a proper look at his squad?
I get saving some back for January but he’s not spent anything yet and we are 3-4 players short from having a decent squad and that’s before injury’s. When you consider McCullough, Andrews and Crawfords injury records the last few years I don’t understand not strengthening further.
There's a great opportunity to ask Grant McCann about his plans at the AGM tonight.
All I can say is McCann better get off to a good start, or things will get hostile pretty quick, the signs don't look good at allit is really concerning, i agree things will get hostile at the keepmoat if we get off to a poor start.
Hasn't McCann said he's finished with the transfer market. He did. We have a team no better than last year
Fergie new how to get out of this division, McCann doesn't. Why change, McCann is cheaper, he has a desire and willingness to play the kids, cheaper than Fergies quality players, All McCann has done is switch to 433 and we've only one strìker. He's not spent any money at all one in one out, if you look Dosnt look good to me. Personally can we really afford a championship budget. Or is it just marketing by the board,
The board know the costs and the answer to that one.
We need investment a take over.
Until then we are just a football team Too good for div2 not good enough for a top 6 div 1
Yes, Fergie got us out of this league at the first time of asking.
GM is looking for a forward player.
He is happy with the midfield players he has.
Wanted AG but Peterborough want to much money.
Resources are their if GM feels he needs to bring in player that are better than what he has.
Both GM and GB believe they have the resources for atop six finish.
GM believes he has the players for top six finish.
Players committed to the way he wants to play.
JM not for sale don’t need or want to sell him.
ML kept because he will challenge NM.
Stand out points of note:
McCann wants a cup run and will urge Rovers to go to win the Checkatrade Trophy. “I won’t be playing a U18 side on those Tuesday nights.”
Also believes both Luke McCullough and Ben Whiteman are better than Jordan Houghton #drfc
Don’t think it will be one or the other and I don’t believe what I heard that it will strictly be a holding player role. They will attack together and all will defend together, his words.
Number, variety and capability all low I am afraid. Was our weakness last season and unaddressed this close season thus far - lot can change mind.
Don’t think it will be one or the other and I don’t believe what I heard that it will strictly be a holding player role. They will attack together and all will defend together, his words.
Aye, yeah, that's the ideal isn't it? But in reality no team plays like that.
Don’t think it will be one or the other and I don’t believe what I heard that it will strictly be a holding player role. They will attack together and all will defend together, his words.
Aye, yeah, that's the ideal isn't it? But in reality no team plays like that.
At least we'll know Marquis has been TOLD to drop as deep as the centre halfs (halves?) next season... :laugh:
I guess in a 433 he has options but is there depth given he has.just one brought in and two going out?I can see why he's after a forward first. Lose Marquis and we are stuffed.According to GB that will not happen. We will not be left in the lurch.
Don’t think it will be one or the other and I don’t believe what I heard that it will strictly be a holding player role. They will attack together and all will defend together, his words.
Aye, yeah, that's the ideal isn't it? But in reality no team plays like that.
At least we'll know Marquis has been TOLD to drop as deep as the centre halfs (halves?) next season... :laugh:
See we’re joking but what was said he expects 4/5 players in the opposition box when we are attacking even one full back.
Christ. Whiteman is best used when he's allowed to push on. He's not a defensive midfielder.
That sounds terrifying. It'll either be thrilling or an absolute, unmitigated disaster.
Christ. Whiteman is best used when he's allowed to push on. He's not a defensive midfielder.
Hope I'm wrong but sounds like it might be another Fergie with names into a hat for who's playing where.
He intends out score the opposition.Don’t think it will be one or the other and I don’t believe what I heard that it will strictly be a holding player role. They will attack together and all will defend together, his words.
Aye, yeah, that's the ideal isn't it? But in reality no team plays like that.
At least we'll know Marquis has been TOLD to drop as deep as the centre halfs (halves?) next season... :laugh:
See we’re joking but what was said he expects 4/5 players in the opposition box when we are attacking even one full back.
That sounds terrifying. It'll either be thrilling or an absolute, unmitigated disaster.
Not impressed so far.
For an ex midfield player, of some repute, to say he's not looking for midfield players is either a) bluffing, or b) deluded, or c) a mixture of a and b.
Not long left to ensure the answer is a.
Here's hoping, with a capital H.
He intends out score the opposition.Don’t think it will be one or the other and I don’t believe what I heard that it will strictly be a holding player role. They will attack together and all will defend together, his words.
Aye, yeah, that's the ideal isn't it? But in reality no team plays like that.
At least we'll know Marquis has been TOLD to drop as deep as the centre halfs (halves?) next season... :laugh:
See we’re joking but what was said he expects 4/5 players in the opposition box when we are attacking even one full back.
That sounds terrifying. It'll either be thrilling or an absolute, unmitigated disaster.
Wanted AG but Peterborough want to much money.
He is happy with the midfield players he has.
Look at the money saved this summer on wages and tell me the budget has gone up how can it of gone up with what we’ve shipped out and brought in so far
GM is looking for a forward player.
He is happy with the midfield players he has.
Wanted AG but Peterborough want to much money.
Resources are their if GM feels he needs to bring in player that are better than what he has.
Both GM and GB believe they have the resources for atop six finish.
GM believes he has the players for top six finish.
Players committed to the way he wants to play.
JM not for sale don’t need or want to sell him.
ML kept because he will challenge NM.
What the hell does gavin Baldwin know about a budget for a top 6 finish im amazed at the garbage this man talks on a repeated basis
Capable of finishing in the top 6, really? Based on what exactly? Saying it enough times and believing it hard enough?
The team struggled last season and finished 15th. In terms of what the club seem to think is possible this year, we were way off the pace in both depth and quality.
Have we strengthened the team significantly since? No. Actually there's a fair case that we've not even replaced what we had.
Does the manager's record suggest that he's any more capable than the last one? No, not yet anyway.
These people must be on a different planet to everyone else if they think we have the tools to challenge for the top 6! It just doesn't add up at all.
What the hell does gavin Baldwin know about a budget for a top 6 finish im amazed at the garbage this man talks on a repeated basis
Selby,
I am pleased that the club will receive a payment if Mandy progresses on because I think he will with the right manager. I think these highlights of Morecambe v Bolton shows he has still got what it takes and will in the near future add money to our budget for players its a pity he still not here.
https://www.morecambefc.com/news/2018/july/highlights-bolton-wanderers-0-0-morecambe/
GM is looking for a forward player.
He is happy with the midfield players he has.
Wanted AG but Peterborough want to much money.
Resources are their if GM feels he needs to bring in player that are better than what he has.
Both GM and GB believe they have the resources for atop six finish.
GM believes he has the players for top six finish.
Players committed to the way he wants to play.
JM not for sale don’t need or want to sell him.
ML kept because he will challenge NM.
So we WERE in for Anthony Grant? What happened to the previous denials by the board that the Peterborough lot were making it up?
This isn’t a dig at the board, by the way, it’s a genuine question as to why there was such a strong denial on here on behalf of the board when evidently we had been interested.
GM is looking for a forward player.
He is happy with the midfield players he has.
Wanted AG but Peterborough want to much money.
Resources are their if GM feels he needs to bring in player that are better than what he has.
Both GM and GB believe they have the resources for atop six finish.
GM believes he has the players for top six finish.
Players committed to the way he wants to play.
JM not for sale don’t need or want to sell him.
ML kept because he will challenge NM.
So we WERE in for Anthony Grant? What happened to the previous denials by the board that the Peterborough lot were making it up?
This isn’t a dig at the board, by the way, it’s a genuine question as to why there was such a strong denial on here on behalf of the board when evidently we had been interested.
I think there's a misunderstanding here.
As I've said before Peterborough approached somebody in the club enquiring about Marquis and wanted to offload Grant as part of that package. The club let Peterborough know that Marquis was not for sale. At no time did the club receive a bid for Marquis and we didn't enquire about Grant, officially.
What the hell does gavin Baldwin know about a budget for a top 6 finish im amazed at the garbage this man talks on a repeated basis
Capable of finishing in the top 6, really? Based on what exactly? Saying it enough times and believing it hard enough?Your correct it’s mainly the same team who threw away a L2 Champions position lost too many games from winning positions also and when you add in the possible transfer of Marquis our ONLY decent striker we’ve had for years . The ambition for the future is being done on the ‘Pay as you Go ‘ basis and i believe illustrates lack of REAL investment in the new regime.
The team struggled last season and finished 15th. In terms of what the club seem to think is possible this year, we were way off the pace in both depth and quality.
Have we strengthened the team significantly since? No. Actually there's a fair case that we've not even replaced what we had.
Does the manager's record suggest that he's any more capable than the last one? No, not yet anyway.
These people must be on a different planet to everyone else if they think we have the tools to challenge for the top 6! It just doesn't add up at all.
GM is looking for a forward player.
He is happy with the midfield players he has.
Wanted AG but Peterborough want to much money.
Resources are their if GM feels he needs to bring in player that are better than what he has.
Both GM and GB believe they have the resources for atop six finish.
GM believes he has the players for top six finish.
Players committed to the way he wants to play.
JM not for sale don’t need or want to sell him.
ML kept because he will challenge NM.
So we WERE in for Anthony Grant? What happened to the previous denials by the board that the Peterborough lot were making it up?
This isn’t a dig at the board, by the way, it’s a genuine question as to why there was such a strong denial on here on behalf of the board when evidently we had been interested.
I think there's a misunderstanding here.
As I've said before Peterborough approached somebody in the club enquiring about Marquis and wanted to offload Grant as part of that package. The club let Peterborough know that Marquis was not for sale. At no time did the club receive a bid for Marquis and we didn't enquire about Grant, officially.
Unofficially then as I stated it will have been the other day. You initially said we weren’t interested and they tried to force him on to us then declared their owner was making things up when he made a statement about the matter.
GM is looking for a forward player.
He is happy with the midfield players he has.
Wanted AG but Peterborough want to much money.
Resources are their if GM feels he needs to bring in player that are better than what he has.
Both GM and GB believe they have the resources for atop six finish.
GM believes he has the players for top six finish.
Players committed to the way he wants to play.
JM not for sale don’t need or want to sell him.
ML kept because he will challenge NM.
So we WERE in for Anthony Grant? What happened to the previous denials by the board that the Peterborough lot were making it up?
This isn’t a dig at the board, by the way, it’s a genuine question as to why there was such a strong denial on here on behalf of the board when evidently we had been interested.
I think there's a misunderstanding here.
As I've said before Peterborough approached somebody in the club enquiring about Marquis and wanted to offload Grant as part of that package. The club let Peterborough know that Marquis was not for sale. At no time did the club receive a bid for Marquis and we didn't enquire about Grant, officially.
Unofficially then as I stated it will have been the other day. You initially said we weren’t interested and they tried to force him on to us then declared their owner was making things up when he made a statement about the matter.
And that still remains the same. We never enquired about Grant. They wanted to include him in a deal for Marquis who isn't for sale. No official bids or enquiries were made. So, how can we have not been able to match their asking price, which was the original quote from Peterborough, if we didn't want him as part of a deal?
What was said?
What was said?
The information must be too compromising to put in the public domain!
What was said?
The information must be too compromising to put in the public domain!
It was said in a public meeting was n't it?
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Nail. On. Head.
McCann said at last night's meeting that if Grant was available at the right price he would drive there to pick him up himself.
He also said he had received two bids for Marquis and Baldwin also said he had received an offer from a Scottish club for him.
As Filo said it was a public meeting so why shouldn't people know?
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Nail. On. Head.
Yes, he really underperformed when we won promotion didn't he?
McCann said at last night's meeting that if Grant was available at the right price he would drive there to pick him up himself.
He also said he had received two bids for Marquis and Baldwin also said he had received an offer from a Scottish club for him.
As Filo said it was a public meeting so why shouldn't people know?
It doesn’t matter what McCann says it’s what SM says that matters!
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Nail. On. Head.
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Nail. On. Head.
If DF was that bad then why did the board plan for him to remain in his position?
And what about McCann's track record suggests he's going to be any better?
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Nail. On. Head.
Yes, he really underperformed when we won promotion didn't he?
Towards the end of the season most definitely.
Last season, (all of it) most definitely.
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Nail. On. Head.
Yes, he really underperformed when we won promotion didn't he?
Towards the end of the season most definitely.
Last season, (all of it) most definitely.
Yet Gavin came out and said how pleased they were with last season and the progress we’ve made.
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Nail. On. Head.
If DF was that bad then why did the board plan for him to remain in his position?
And what about McCann's track record suggests he's going to be any better?
Its a personal opinion.
A typical example of why I'm not allowed to express myself, and try hard not to, on this message board.
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Nail. On. Head.
If DF was that bad then why did the board plan for him to remain in his position?
And what about McCann's track record suggests he's going to be any better?
Its a personal opinion.
A typical example of why I'm not allowed to express myself, and try hard not to, on this message board.
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal.
I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Nail. On. Head.
If DF was that bad then why did the board plan for him to remain in his position?
And what about McCann's track record suggests he's going to be any better?
Its a personal opinion.
A typical example of why I'm not allowed to express myself, and try hard not to, on this message board.
Well said SM.
I sympathise with you - you're in an impossible position on here.
We can all throw opinions around, some of which are complete b******s (in my opinion!) but every word you utter is taken to be an official statement by the Club and is jumped upon and picked apart.
Maybe you'll have to put IMHO after every post which expresses your personal view!
If we have a budget (as has been pointed out this has been factually confirmed in EFL filings) that is in top 7 then damn right we should be expecting whoever is manager to be pushing for playoffs!
The first season he oversaw the worst change in fortune I have seen at this club. his change of tactics, his change of our attacking personal and his continual ignoring of certain players at his disposal cost us relegation.
In his second season he blew a championship season in the last seven games, when persisting with picking the player on loan from Everton, Mason, and Alcock who were all completely out of form, and in Alcock's case not even match fit, and his substitutions at Hartlepool when all we needed a result, not only changed 3 players, but went through a load of positional changes completely losing our shape. And again had it in publicly with certain players who were ignored.
Last season leaving players out again, being reluctant to play Baudry when available, playing players in positions they struggle with, man management, persisting with a goalkeeper 6 ft 4ins who did not come off his line, costing us points.
He was a great club organiser, shook the system up on the playing side from top to bottom, made many improvements at the club behind the scenes, as a team manager it is my opinion only of course, but I think he was pretty average, as a man manager again average. Of course some would respond to him, but having talked to a couple of parents of some of our younger players, he could be soul destroying, and not the person he portrayed publicly lets say.
He had had his time here, I thank him for a promotion, for his determination to shake the club up in the background, but we should not have had to come back from relegation, and his resignation came when for the first time in three seasons he felt slighted by the board with regard to finance, the tail cannot be seen to shake the dog, so time to go.
The question that should be asked about the budget is, did we give him too much money for the return from his efforts compared to managers at say Rochdale, Shrewsbury, Exeter, Accrington in the time he was here? and was it a sign of petulance or even resignation he could not work without being able to splash the cash?
The first season he oversaw the worst change in fortune I have seen at this club. his change of tactics, his change of our attacking personal and his continual ignoring of certain players at his disposal cost us relegation.You won't believe this Selby we agree, all though we will probably disagree about the identity of some he chose to ignore😊
In his second season he blew a championship season in the last seven games, when persisting with picking the player on loan from Everton, Mason, and Alcock who were all completely out of form, and in Alcock's case not even match fit, and his substitutions at Hartlepool when all we needed a result, not only changed 3 players, but went through a load of positional changes completely losing our shape. And again had it in publicly with certain players who were ignored.
Last season leaving players out again, being reluctant to play Baudry when available, playing players in positions they struggle with, man management, persisting with a goalkeeper 6 ft 4ins who did not come off his line, costing us points.
He was a great club organiser, shook the system up on the playing side from top to bottom, made many improvements at the club behind the scenes, as a team manager it is my opinion only of course, but I think he was pretty average, as a man manager again average. Of course some would respond to him, but having talked to a couple of parents of some of our younger players, he could be soul destroying, and not the person he portrayed publicly lets say.
He had had his time here, I thank him for a promotion, for his determination to shake the club up in the background, but we should not have had to come back from relegation, and his resignation came when for the first time in three seasons he felt slighted by the board with regard to finance, the tail cannot be seen to shake the dog, so time to go.
The question that should be asked about the budget is, did we give him too much money for the return from his efforts compared to managers at say Rochdale, Shrewsbury, Exeter, Accrington in the time he was here? and was it a sign of petulance or even resignation he could not work without being able to splash the cash?
The first season he oversaw the worst change in fortune I have seen at this club. his change of tactics, his change of our attacking personal and his continual ignoring of certain players at his disposal cost us relegation.
In his second season he blew a championship season in the last seven games, when persisting with picking the player on loan from Everton, Mason, and Alcock who were all completely out of form, and in Alcock's case not even match fit, and his substitutions at Hartlepool when all we needed a result, not only changed 3 players, but went through a load of positional changes completely losing our shape. And again had it in publicly with certain players who were ignored.
Last season leaving players out again, being reluctant to play Baudry when available, playing players in positions they struggle with, man management, persisting with a goalkeeper 6 ft 4ins who did not come off his line, costing us points.
He was a great club organiser, shook the system up on the playing side from top to bottom, made many improvements at the club behind the scenes, as a team manager it is my opinion only of course, but I think he was pretty average, as a man manager again average. Of course some would respond to him, but having talked to a couple of parents of some of our younger players, he could be soul destroying, and not the person he portrayed publicly lets say.
He had had his time here, I thank him for a promotion, for his determination to shake the club up in the background, but we should not have had to come back from relegation, and his resignation came when for the first time in three seasons he felt slighted by the board with regard to finance, the tail cannot be seen to shake the dog, so time to go.
The question that should be asked about the budget is, did we give him too much money for the return from his efforts compared to managers at say Rochdale, Shrewsbury, Exeter, Accrington in the time he was here? and was it a sign of petulance or even resignation he could not work without being able to splash the cash?
The first season he oversaw the worst change in fortune I have seen at this club. his change of tactics, his change of our attacking personal and his continual ignoring of certain players at his disposal cost us relegation.
In his second season he blew a championship season in the last seven games, when persisting with picking the player on loan from Everton, Mason, and Alcock who were all completely out of form, and in Alcock's case not even match fit, and his substitutions at Hartlepool when all we needed a result, not only changed 3 players, but went through a load of positional changes completely losing our shape. And again had it in publicly with certain players who were ignored.
Last season leaving players out again, being reluctant to play Baudry when available, playing players in positions they struggle with, man management, persisting with a goalkeeper 6 ft 4ins who did not come off his line, costing us points.
He was a great club organiser, shook the system up on the playing side from top to bottom, made many improvements at the club behind the scenes, as a team manager it is my opinion only of course, but I think he was pretty average, as a man manager again average. Of course some would respond to him, but having talked to a couple of parents of some of our younger players, he could be soul destroying, and not the person he portrayed publicly lets say.
He had had his time here, I thank him for a promotion, for his determination to shake the club up in the background, but we should not have had to come back from relegation, and his resignation came when for the first time in three seasons he felt slighted by the board with regard to finance, the tail cannot be seen to shake the dog, so time to go.
The question that should be asked about the budget is, did we give him too much money for the return from his efforts compared to managers at say Rochdale, Shrewsbury, Exeter, Accrington in the time he was here? and was it a sign of petulance or even resignation he could not work without being able to splash the cash?
He oversaw two massive changes in fortune in his first season, as he took a side in the relegation zone upto the top 10 and then he took them from the top 10 back to the relegation zone.
10 pages on what we think of McCann's new players and all he's signed is 1 on loan and 1 permanent, with 1 on an extended trial. To say this thread has gone completely off track is an understatement!And you’ve just extended it😁
We could have covered the topic in question on 1 page, because, as we are presently, there's nothing much to discuss. God help us if we actually do sign a quality player or two (here's hoping).
One things for sure if marquis does get sold they won’t free much up for McCann to spend on the squad
The first season he oversaw the worst change in fortune I have seen at this club. his change of tactics, his change of our attacking personal and his continual ignoring of certain players at his disposal cost us relegation.
In his second season he blew a championship season in the last seven games, when persisting with picking the player on loan from Everton, Mason, and Alcock who were all completely out of form, and in Alcock's case not even match fit, and his substitutions at Hartlepool when all we needed a result, not only changed 3 players, but went through a load of positional changes completely losing our shape. And again had it in publicly with certain players who were ignored.
Last season leaving players out again, being reluctant to play Baudry when available, playing players in positions they struggle with, man management, persisting with a goalkeeper 6 ft 4ins who did not come off his line, costing us points.
He was a great club organiser, shook the system up on the playing side from top to bottom, made many improvements at the club behind the scenes, as a team manager it is my opinion only of course, but I think he was pretty average, as a man manager again average. Of course some would respond to him, but having talked to a couple of parents of some of our younger players, he could be soul destroying, and not the person he portrayed publicly lets say.
He had had his time here, I thank him for a promotion, for his determination to shake the club up in the background, but we should not have had to come back from relegation, and his resignation came when for the first time in three seasons he felt slighted by the board with regard to finance, the tail cannot be seen to shake the dog, so time to go.
The question that should be asked about the budget is, did we give him too much money for the return from his efforts compared to managers at say Rochdale, Shrewsbury, Exeter, Accrington in the time he was here? and was it a sign of petulance or even resignation he could not work without being able to splash the cash?
He oversaw two massive changes in fortune in his first season, as he took a side in the relegation zone upto the top 10 and then he took them from the top 10 back to the relegation zone.
Aye, he took them back into the relegation zone after taking them well out of it. And if you recall you called for him to be sacked, as well.
So you honestly think if we got 1.5 million + that we would spend the majority on players get a grip
The first season he oversaw the worst change in fortune I have seen at this club. his change of tactics, his change of our attacking personal and his continual ignoring of certain players at his disposal cost us relegation.
In his second season he blew a championship season in the last seven games, when persisting with picking the player on loan from Everton, Mason, and Alcock who were all completely out of form, and in Alcock's case not even match fit, and his substitutions at Hartlepool when all we needed a result, not only changed 3 players, but went through a load of positional changes completely losing our shape. And again had it in publicly with certain players who were ignored.
Last season leaving players out again, being reluctant to play Baudry when available, playing players in positions they struggle with, man management, persisting with a goalkeeper 6 ft 4ins who did not come off his line, costing us points.
He was a great club organiser, shook the system up on the playing side from top to bottom, made many improvements at the club behind the scenes, as a team manager it is my opinion only of course, but I think he was pretty average, as a man manager again average. Of course some would respond to him, but having talked to a couple of parents of some of our younger players, he could be soul destroying, and not the person he portrayed publicly lets say.
He had had his time here, I thank him for a promotion, for his determination to shake the club up in the background, but we should not have had to come back from relegation, and his resignation came when for the first time in three seasons he felt slighted by the board with regard to finance, the tail cannot be seen to shake the dog, so time to go.
The question that should be asked about the budget is, did we give him too much money for the return from his efforts compared to managers at say Rochdale, Shrewsbury, Exeter, Accrington in the time he was here? and was it a sign of petulance or even resignation he could not work without being able to splash the cash?
He oversaw two massive changes in fortune in his first season, as he took a side in the relegation zone upto the top 10 and then he took them from the top 10 back to the relegation zone.
Aye, he took them back into the relegation zone after taking them well out of it. And if you recall you called for him to be sacked, as well.
I’ve just said that 🙄
And don’t just follow everything your mate says, I never called for him to be sacked at all.
I was asked if we didn’t get any points from the Easter games should he be sacked and I said yes.
Not really calling for him to be sacked is it
One things for sure if marquis does get sold they won’t free much up for McCann to spend on the squad
One things for sure if marquis does get sold they won’t free much up for McCann to spend on the squad
Are you the new Director of Finance?
One things for sure if marquis does get sold they won’t free much up for McCann to spend on the squad
Are you the new Director of Finance?
Are you the new Public Relations Director 😏
And now it looks like he might be looking for def mid, according to Liam Holden, but won't be held to ransome
And now it looks like he might be looking for def mid, according to Liam Holden, but won't be held to ransome
Is this the same Liam Hoden whose article people held up as proving there was going to be no more transfer activity?
And now it looks like he might be looking for def mid, according to Liam Holden, but won't be held to ransome
Is this the same Liam Hoden whose article people held up as proving there was going to be no more transfer activity?
And now it looks like he might be looking for def mid, according to Liam Holden, but won't be held to ransome
Is this the same Liam Hoden whose article people held up as proving there was going to be no more transfer activity?
He can only report what he's told...