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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Alan Southstand on January 25, 2020, 08:06:33 am
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DM quote after the game:
As long as we see improvement in terms of performances, and we believe if the performances are right then the results will come.
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Not a bad thing Alan
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If you were to look back at my comments on Sean you would notice I am Sean's No1 supporter.
I go along with the comments that Darren has Morphed in to the Sean's way of playing and talking about football.
I like what I see.
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He needs to spend billions to be successfully surely (just like man utd do). We are very lucky to have DM
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I looked at the starting XI last night, no Sadler, Copps on the bench, DM starting with 5 at the back? I felt the worst, ‘parking the bus’ fo 90 minutes...suicide. But no, DM played a blinder with his tactics.
He’s getting the best out of a threadbare squad with tactical nouse. I just hope we can get someone up front because after last nights performance I don’t want to be appearing to ‘slag’ anyone off but Niall Ennis, even when he found he had the ball in space & room to run too often got shepherded wide or chose the wrong option. We know he’s not a ‘natural No 9 & that’s the only thing we were lacking last night.
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I looked at the starting XI last night, no Sadler, Copps on the bench, DM starting with 5 at the back? I felt the worst, ‘parking the bus’ fo 90 minutes...suicide. But no, DM played a blinder with his tactics.
He’s getting the best out of a threadbare squad with tactical nouse. I just hope we can get someone up front because after last nights performance I don’t want to be appearing to ‘slag’ anyone off but Niall Ennis, even when he found he had the ball in space & room to run too often got shepherded wide or chose the wrong option. We know he’s not a ‘natural No 9 & that’s the only thing we were lacking last night.
We didn’t play 5 at the back. The warm up practice had James in a back 5 but that I think was to throw Sunderland off the scent.
James played in Sadlier’s position on the left of the 3 behind Ennis.
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I looked at the starting XI last night, no Sadler, Copps on the bench, DM starting with 5 at the back? I felt the worst, ‘parking the bus’ fo 90 minutes...suicide. But no, DM played a blinder with his tactics.
He’s getting the best out of a threadbare squad with tactical nouse. I just hope we can get someone up front because after last nights performance I don’t want to be appearing to ‘slag’ anyone off but Niall Ennis, even when he found he had the ball in space & room to run too often got shepherded wide or chose the wrong option. We know he’s not a ‘natural No 9 & that’s the only thing we were lacking last night.
We didn’t play 5 at the back. The warm up practice had James in a back 5 but that I think was to throw Sunderland off the scent.
James played in Sadlier’s position on the left of the 3 behind Ennis.
I think the point being made was “when looking at the starting eleven” not when seeing how they shaped up on the pitch. When you see three central defenders and two full backs in the line up it’s quite logical to consider we might play three / five at the back. Obviously we didn’t do that and I think that was the point.
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I looked at the starting XI last night, no Sadler, Copps on the bench, DM starting with 5 at the back? I felt the worst, ‘parking the bus’ fo 90 minutes...suicide. But no, DM played a blinder with his tactics.
He’s getting the best out of a threadbare squad with tactical nouse. I just hope we can get someone up front because after last nights performance I don’t want to be appearing to ‘slag’ anyone off but Niall Ennis, even when he found he had the ball in space & room to run too often got shepherded wide or chose the wrong option. We know he’s not a ‘natural No 9 & that’s the only thing we were lacking last night.
We didn’t play 5 at the back. The warm up practice had James in a back 5 but that I think was to throw Sunderland off the scent.
James played in Sadlier’s position on the left of the 3 behind Ennis.
I think he means from the line up it looked like we were playing 5 at the back & parking the bus, I feared the same.
Brilliant by DM & the team last night.
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Beat me to it Jonathan.
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A fantastic result! Superb set up by DM and the lads worked their socks off! I’m really proud of that performance. Well done lads 👍😀
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I looked at the starting XI last night, no Sadler, Copps on the bench, DM starting with 5 at the back? I felt the worst, ‘parking the bus’ fo 90 minutes...suicide. But no, DM played a blinder with his tactics.
He’s getting the best out of a threadbare squad with tactical nouse. I just hope we can get someone up front because after last nights performance I don’t want to be appearing to ‘slag’ anyone off but Niall Ennis, even when he found he had the ball in space & room to run too often got shepherded wide or chose the wrong option. We know he’s not a ‘natural No 9 & that’s the only thing we were lacking last night.
We didn’t play 5 at the back. The warm up practice had James in a back 5 but that I think was to throw Sunderland off the scent.
James played in Sadlier’s position on the left of the 3 behind Ennis.
I think the point being made was “when looking at the starting eleven” not when seeing how they shaped up on the pitch. When you see three central defenders and two full backs in the line up it’s quite logical to consider we might play three / five at the back. Obviously we didn’t do that and I think that was the point.
Campsall has a tendency to skim read posts then dive in & make himself foolish.
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The team was well set up to play against an in form team at home. 5 at the back was the right thing to do as a point at Sunderland is a good result in this league.
I agree about Ennis though. Against 3 defenders who are strong at this level - a striker needs support. Unless they are a big lad who has a realistic chance of winning a header and holding it up, it is bound to be a thankless task.
Unfortunately we don’t have that option at the minute as we genuinely don’t have an outright number nine in the squad.
I’m not a doom monger by any stretch of the imagination, I think DM is doing a stellar job with the squad he has at his disposal. I’m not berating the board, I am sure they have their reasons as to why we seem so slow to act when it is and has been plainly obvious since the day Marquis left that we are short in that area.
I think we all feel like a couple of decent players who are ours would lift us to the next level and make us a very competitive outfit in league one.
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The team was well set up to play against an in form team at home. 5 at the back was the right thing to do as a point at Sunderland is a good result in this league.
I agree about Ennis though. Against 3 defenders who are strong at this level - a striker needs support. Unless they are a big lad who has a realistic chance of winning a header and holding it up, it is bound to be a thankless task.
Unfortunately we don’t have that option at the minute as we genuinely don’t have an outright number nine in the squad.
I’m not a doom monger by any stretch of the imagination, I think DM is doing a stellar job with the squad he has at his disposal. I’m not berating the board, I am sure they have their reasons as to why we seem so slow to act when it is and has been plainly obvious since the day Marquis left that we are short in that area.
I think we all feel like a couple of decent players who are ours would lift us to the next level and make us a very competitive outfit in league one.
Not sure where get 5 at the back from, it looked a 4-2-3-1 to me
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Why do some people think we had 5 at the back? :laugh:
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I looked at the starting XI last night, no Sadler, Copps on the bench, DM starting with 5 at the back? I felt the worst, ‘parking the bus’ fo 90 minutes...suicide. But no, DM played a blinder with his tactics.
He’s getting the best out of a threadbare squad with tactical nouse. I just hope we can get someone up front because after last nights performance I don’t want to be appearing to ‘slag’ anyone off but Niall Ennis, even when he found he had the ball in space & room to run too often got shepherded wide or chose the wrong option. We know he’s not a ‘natural No 9 & that’s the only thing we were lacking last night.
We didn’t play 5 at the back. The warm up practice had James in a back 5 but that I think was to throw Sunderland off the scent.
James played in Sadlier’s position on the left of the 3 behind Ennis.
I think the point being made was “when looking at the starting eleven” not when seeing how they shaped up on the pitch. When you see three central defenders and two full backs in the line up it’s quite logical to consider we might play three / five at the back. Obviously we didn’t do that and I think that was the point.
Campsall has a tendency to skim read posts then dive in & make himself foolish.
Explain please. What have i said? I seriously don’t know what you are talking about.
I just stated we warmed up as a back 5 but didn’t play it and played our usual formation. What’s the problem. How does that make me look foolish?
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I looked at the starting XI last night, no Sadler, Copps on the bench, DM starting with 5 at the back? I felt the worst, ‘parking the bus’ fo 90 minutes...suicide. But no, DM played a blinder with his tactics.
He’s getting the best out of a threadbare squad with tactical nouse. I just hope we can get someone up front because after last nights performance I don’t want to be appearing to ‘slag’ anyone off but Niall Ennis, even when he found he had the ball in space & room to run too often got shepherded wide or chose the wrong option. We know he’s not a ‘natural No 9 & that’s the only thing we were lacking last night.
We didn’t play 5 at the back. The warm up practice had James in a back 5 but that I think was to throw Sunderland off the scent.
James played in Sadlier’s position on the left of the 3 behind Ennis.
I think the point being made was “when looking at the starting eleven” not when seeing how they shaped up on the pitch. When you see three central defenders and two full backs in the line up it’s quite logical to consider we might play three / five at the back. Obviously we didn’t do that and I think that was the point.
Campsall has a tendency to skim read posts then dive in & make himself foolish.
Explain please. What have i said? I seriously don’t know what you are talking about.
I just stated we warmed up as a back 5 but didn’t play it and played our usual formation. What’s the problem. How does that make me look foolish?
So I take it you don’t read your own posts (especially given they are usually so long winded) before posting then. Even more foolish.
I’ll take you through it slowly so that a 4 year old could understand.
Read my post again, the one you quoted. Then read your reply to that post which begins “We didn’t play 5 at the back”.
Where in my post did I say ‘we played 5 at the back’? Nowhere.
And that is why you were foolish to quote me & why when you compound it with another post saying “Explain please. What have I said?”, not only were you foolish in the first instance, the 2nd shows in fact that you clearly are a fool.
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I looked at the starting XI last night, no Sadler, Copps on the bench, DM starting with 5 at the back? I felt the worst, ‘parking the bus’ fo 90 minutes...suicide. But no, DM played a blinder with his tactics.
He’s getting the best out of a threadbare squad with tactical nouse. I just hope we can get someone up front because after last nights performance I don’t want to be appearing to ‘slag’ anyone off but Niall Ennis, even when he found he had the ball in space & room to run too often got shepherded wide or chose the wrong option. We know he’s not a ‘natural No 9 & that’s the only thing we were lacking last night.
We didn’t play 5 at the back. The warm up practice had James in a back 5 but that I think was to throw Sunderland off the scent.
James played in Sadlier’s position on the left of the 3 behind Ennis.
I think the point being made was “when looking at the starting eleven” not when seeing how they shaped up on the pitch. When you see three central defenders and two full backs in the line up it’s quite logical to consider we might play three / five at the back. Obviously we didn’t do that and I think that was the point.
He didn't say "when looking at the starting eleven" though Jonathan did he.
He said, "I looked at the starting XI last night" and then followed up with "DM starting with five at the back ?"
He was just questioning what he thought might be happening.
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Jonathan is agreeing with the Colin. You are agreeing with Jonathan but appear to think you are at cross purposes
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Jonathan is agreeing with the Colin. You are agreeing with Jonathan but appear to think you are at cross purposes
Sometimes fellas, you just have to shake your head, smile & head for the quarantine section!
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Jonathan is agreeing with the Colin. You are agreeing with Jonathan but appear to think you are at cross purposes
Sometimes fellas, you just have to shake your head, smile & head for the quarantine section!
I should have clarified that my post was intended for Drfchound
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I looked at the starting XI last night, no Sadler, Copps on the bench, DM starting with 5 at the back? I felt the worst, ‘parking the bus’ fo 90 minutes...suicide. But no, DM played a blinder with his tactics.
He’s getting the best out of a threadbare squad with tactical nouse. I just hope we can get someone up front because after last nights performance I don’t want to be appearing to ‘slag’ anyone off but Niall Ennis, even when he found he had the ball in space & room to run too often got shepherded wide or chose the wrong option. We know he’s not a ‘natural No 9 & that’s the only thing we were lacking last night.
We didn’t play 5 at the back. The warm up practice had James in a back 5 but that I think was to throw Sunderland off the scent.
James played in Sadlier’s position on the left of the 3 behind Ennis.
I think the point being made was “when looking at the starting eleven” not when seeing how they shaped up on the pitch. When you see three central defenders and two full backs in the line up it’s quite logical to consider we might play three / five at the back. Obviously we didn’t do that and I think that was the point.
Campsall has a tendency to skim read posts then dive in & make himself foolish.
Explain please. What have i said? I seriously don’t know what you are talking about.
I just stated we warmed up as a back 5 but didn’t play it and played our usual formation. What’s the problem. How does that make me look foolish?
So I take it you don’t read your own posts (especially given they are usually so long winded) before posting then. Even more foolish.
I’ll take you through it slowly so that a 4 year old could understand.
Read my post again, the one you quoted. Then read your reply to that post which begins “We didn’t play 5 at the back”.
Where in my post did I say ‘we played 5 at the back’? Nowhere.
And that is why you were foolish to quote me & why when you compound it with another post saying “Explain please. What have I said?”, not only were you foolish in the first instance, the 2nd shows in fact that you clearly are a fool.
Well I will tell you what you are with a reply like that. Ignorant and disrespectful.
What an Earth has got into you to post that.
I just very politely said we didn’t play a back 5. Where is it that i was having a go at you. I just made a statement following your post as some thought we were playing a back 5.
Colin you are way out of order with your reply to me, that was totally unnecessary. I think you need to get a grip and have a very good look in the mirror making posts like that.
I think an apology is in order my friend. I don’t mind people disagreeing with me as this is a forum for opinions. But that riposte to what i said is way way over the top my friend. :that:
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How the f*ck is this still going on?
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How the f*ck is this still going on?
I am seriously wondering whether it is worth all the agro Donny. You can’t even make a simple factual comment about something without getting abuse now.
This forum has become way too toxic. I used to enjoy the banter but now it is no fun at all.
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Jonathan is agreeing with the Colin. You are agreeing with Jonathan but appear to think you are at cross purposes
Seem to be be a few on here at cross purposes.
One or two need to attend anger management courses and learn some basic manners.
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No I don't agree the defence with SOD was weak, as we scored a lot but gave away goals at the other end. But with DM we are strong at the back but weak up front
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No I don't agree the defence with SOD was weak, as we scored a lot but gave away goals at the other end. But with DM we are strong at the back but weak up front
That's factually incorrect.
In 2008/09, our first season in the Championship, we had the equal lowest number of goals for in the division, and the equal 7th lowest number of goals conceded.
The following season we had the 10th best defensive record and 11th best scoring record.
Only in 2010/11 did we have a very poor defensive record. 2nd worst goals conceded and 15th best goals scored.
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We're scoring more on average this season than we did in League One under SOD's promotion season.
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This must be close to the best back 5 we've had for a very long time. A cracking keeper, two (of three) centre halves who are very consistent in the air, excellent at blocking and decent on the deck. Two full backs who are fairly equal in defending tenaciously, much better at restricting the opposition getting crosses in and get up and down the pitch at pace.
I think DM helps them all with the finer detail that helps them improve from average to good.
The work rate and fitness of the back line has been tested by the best this division and so far so very good and improving.
Bit by bit I'm sure he's raising the standard in terms of the intensity that he would have overseen at WBA.
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No I don't agree the defence with SOD was weak, as we scored a lot but gave away goals at the other end. But with DM we are strong at the back but weak up front
That's factually incorrect.
In 2008/09, our first season in the Championship, we had the equal lowest number of goals for in the division, and the equal 7th lowest number of goals conceded.
The following season we had the 10th best defensive record and 11th best scoring record.
Only in 2010/11 did we have a very poor defensive record. 2nd worst goals conceded and 15th best goals scored.
I'm afraid I'm not that sad to go sorting through facts like that. I have a life away from football
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No I don't agree the defence with SOD was weak, as we scored a lot but gave away goals at the other end. But with DM we are strong at the back but weak up front
That's factually incorrect.
In 2008/09, our first season in the Championship, we had the equal lowest number of goals for in the division, and the equal 7th lowest number of goals conceded.
The following season we had the 10th best defensive record and 11th best scoring record.
Only in 2010/11 did we have a very poor defensive record. 2nd worst goals conceded and 15th best goals scored.
I'm afraid I'm not that sad to go sorting through facts like that. I have a life away from football
I dug that out in 60 seconds while on the pan. What do YOU do to pass the time while having a Tom Kite?
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We're scoring more on average this season than we did in League One under SOD's promotion season.
After 25 games, we've conceded exactly as many goals as the back four of Quinn, Jones, McCombe and Spurr did in 2012/13.
Admittedly, they DID have Gary Woods behind them, but I'd argue the division is much higher quality this year.
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See that McCombe left Lincoln City the other day.
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You have gone very quiet Colin C
Are you big enough to apologise for your totally unwarranted outburst.
I am waiting.
Normally i would just let this go but i feel really disappointed that anyone could react in the way you did to absolutely nothing.
I just happened to post something factual and tagged it on to your post.
You were totally at cross purposes with regard to this and you completely over reacted. ( understated )
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You have gone very quiet Colin C
Are you big enough to apologise for your totally unwarranted outburst.
I am waiting.
Normally i would just let this go but i feel really disappointed that anyone could react in the way you did to absolutely nothing.
I just happened to post something factual and tagged it on to your post.
You were totally at cross purposes with regard to this and you completely over reacted. ( understated )
Campsall, don't tell me that you are still stewing over the post from yesterday.
Crikey mate, you need to either chill out or keep off the forum if it grinds away at you.
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You have gone very quiet Colin C
Are you big enough to apologise for your totally unwarranted outburst.
I am waiting.
Normally i would just let this go but i feel really disappointed that anyone could react in the way you did to absolutely nothing.
I just happened to post something factual and tagged it on to your post.
You were totally at cross purposes with regard to this and you completely over reacted. ( understated )
Campsall, don't tell me that you are still stewing over the post from yesterday.
Crikey mate, you need to either chill out or keep off the forum if it grinds away at you.
Do you know i just knew you would be the first to post.
hound go and read that post again i got from Colin C and tell me you would not be absolutely furious if you had received it. Come on be honest. You would have gone berserk.
There are many on this forum who would have reacted a lot stronger than me i can tell you.
Think i have kept my council quite well considering.
I am not stewing. I have just asked for an apology which is not unreasonable.
Or is this forum an open house for anyone to say anything they want to someone else?
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More defensive than Dean Saunders
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You have gone very quiet Colin C
Are you big enough to apologise for your totally unwarranted outburst.
I am waiting.
Normally i would just let this go but i feel really disappointed that anyone could react in the way you did to absolutely nothing.
I just happened to post something factual and tagged it on to your post.
You were totally at cross purposes with regard to this and you completely over reacted. ( understated )
Campsall, don't tell me that you are still stewing over the post from yesterday.
Crikey mate, you need to either chill out or keep off the forum if it grinds away at you.
Do you know i just knew you would be the first to post.
hound go and read that post again i got from Colin C and tell me you would not be absolutely furious if you had received it. Come on be honest. You would have gone berserk.
There are many on this forum who would have reacted a lot stronger than me i can tell you.
Think i have kept my council quite well considering.
I am not stewing. I have just asked for an apology which is not unreasonable.
Or is this forum an open house for anyone to say anything they want to someone else?
Mate, I wouldn't have gone berserk at all, I would have brushed it aside and just forgotten about it to be honest.
There are a couple of posters who have a pop at me from time to time, if say I get something wrong.
I get repetitive reminders about it from them but it is just the water off the ducks back thing to me.
Really, don't let someone like him get you down, it isn't worth it.
Just move on.
Everyone will have forgotten about it in a day or two.
As for waiting for an apology, don't hold your breath.
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You have gone very quiet Colin C
Are you big enough to apologise for your totally unwarranted outburst.
I am waiting.
Normally i would just let this go but i feel really disappointed that anyone could react in the way you did to absolutely nothing.
I just happened to post something factual and tagged it on to your post.
You were totally at cross purposes with regard to this and you completely over reacted. ( understated )
Campsall, don't tell me that you are still stewing over the post from yesterday.
Crikey mate, you need to either chill out or keep off the forum if it grinds away at you.
Do you know i just knew you would be the first to post.
hound go and read that post again i got from Colin C and tell me you would not be absolutely furious if you had received it. Come on be honest. You would have gone berserk.
There are many on this forum who would have reacted a lot stronger than me i can tell you.
Think i have kept my council quite well considering.
I am not stewing. I have just asked for an apology which is not unreasonable.
Or is this forum an open house for anyone to say anything they want to someone else?
Mate, I wouldn't have gone berserk at all, I would have brushed it aside and just forgotten about it to be honest.
There are a couple of posters who have a pop at me from time to time, if say I get something wrong.
I get repetitive reminders about it from them but it is just the water off the ducks back thing to me.
Really, don't let someone like him get you down, it isn't worth it.
Just move on.
Everyone will have forgotten about it in a day or two.
As for waiting for an apology, don't hold your breath.
I am not holding my breath hound. Cowards post personal insults hidden behind a keyboard.
He is not worth the time of day if he is hiding.
Ok i will move on. :)