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DD.Where have you been this last few years?The 1 Nation Tories were drummed out of the party. The middle of the road Tory party you speak of simply doesn't exist!Look at the ones who were kicked out.Ken ClarkePhillip HammondJustine GreeningDominic GrieveDavid GaukeOr sidelinedJeremy HuntDamian GreenThe entire party has been taken over by a right wing cabal. Even under Thatcher, you'd never have had someone as extreme as Patel at the top of Govt. Or someone like Raab and Truss who are on record as calling the British workers "among the worst idlers in the world". Those are the people in control of today's Tory party. The sensible ones have all gone!
Are you still claiming to be politically neutral by the way?
Christ DD, Sunak is MILES to the right of Clarke.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 08, 2022, 04:02:25 pmThe ones who didn't prop up said megalomaniac?True, and there are a great many who would choose someone else if given the option.Its a bit like when Corbyn was in charge, how many of the labour back benches and disposed right wing element went along with him for party harmony, if they had the option at the time they would of chosen someone else but they didn't.Remember saint Keith was Corbyns lieutenant and went along with his left wing nonsense, if he had been elected all the right wing who are now on the front bench would of sang to his tune until the opportunity came to stab him in the back. Its just politics.
The ones who didn't prop up said megalomaniac?
The bookies favourite is Ben Wallace, who is nothing like the far right loonies that some of you are on about.
Any thoughts:
Quote from: scawsby steve on July 08, 2022, 06:40:01 pmThe bookies favourite is Ben Wallace, who is nothing like the far right loonies that some of you are on about.I think that is a fair comment. Wallace is more to the left than most (all) of the other declared contenders. He, like Johnson, believes in state spending - although as a former director of QinetiQ and a current advocate of giving contracts to QineticQ - he wants much more on defence than Johnson did.
Quote from: drfchound on July 08, 2022, 10:00:21 pmAny thoughts:What Nick Lowe said:Do you remember Rick Astley?He had a big fat hit that was ghastlyHe said I'm never gonna give you up or let you downWell I'm here to tell ya that dick's a clownThough he was just a boy when he made that vowI'd bet it all that he knows by nowAll men (all men)All men are liars their words ain't worth no more than worn out tiresHey girls (girls) bring rusty pliers to pull this toothAll men are liars and that's the truthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6hzkBihaew
I have a very good friend, a very long standing friend, who has, in the past, been a Conservative Parliamentary candidate and a leading Conservative councillor in a vibrant, modern city. For decades he has suggested to me that he really doesn't mind which party is in power as long as that party governs for at least a decade. he believes that only then will the results of relative Party philosophies and capabilities become readily apparent. I am looking forward to meeting up with him next week.BobG
Back on topic .............. ''As the summer arrives, I will live Johnson’s legacy. I’m a full-time unpaid carer to my 13-year-old son. We live on universal credit, and have only got poorer under Johnson’s levelling up agenda. There’ll be no summer holiday for us; the idea is almost laughable. There’ll be no nice new clothes for my boy, or treats to while away a summer afternoon. As I carry out the mental gymnastics of making our paltry universal credit payment stretch, any extras like food vouchers or donations get sucked into bills that I have been unable to save for, just so we can live. I am moved to tears as I write this, knowing Johnson will never be forced to face up to the damage that he has done to millions of families like mine.He has patronised us incessantly, telling us soaring energy prices are an unavoidable result of war – that doesn’t help me when our gas and energy prices have already doubled. He has boasted how he “got Brexit done”. Brexit might have been pushed through, but to whose benefit? What he cobbled together has only made life harder for those living on a fixed income at the most frightening time of our lives. The extra £20 “uplift” in universal credit payments we received during the pandemic, just about the only good thing he oversaw, was snatched away when we needed it most.And while Boris was partying in May 2020, my sister died, alone, in agony. I spoke to her for the last time the day before, but there were no goodbyes, no last hugs. The morally corrupt man leading the country didn’t even have enough self-respect to come clean about his lies. I will never be able to reconcile that in my heart'' ...............https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/08/boris-johnson-life-miserable-families-suffering-legacy