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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: RedArmy on July 29, 2014, 12:01:40 pm
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What does everyone honestly think our expectations will be for the coming season after the recent events?
I believe if we have a solid season (more wins than loses) and are in and around the play offs by Easter we will have a chance..
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If and a big IF we can keep RW and PQ then i would of thought in and around the top 8 at least.
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Play offs
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Just one or two signings could make a difference. We're no doubt affected by the summer issues but I think if we can add a couple of decent loan signings and kick around the top 10 til Xmas then we may be able to add a bit of extra quality in January.
Wouldn't put money on us going up but I think if we can see positive signs that we're working towards previously mentioned targets on and off the pitch then thats a good sign.
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I'm going to expect nothing and hope for good things :lol:
In all seriousness I've prepared for a mid table finish in my head but hope we can sneak a play-off spot
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Mid table for me too. Can't see us struggling with the players remaining but we certainly don't have the quality to be up the top.
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If and a big IF we can keep RW and PQ then i would of thought in and around the top 8 at least.
PQ would be a good solid player in this league but his behaviour over the last 2 summers has been awful. If none of us turned up to work we would be sacked no matter how good we are at our jobs.
Still a Solid defender and hope he stays.
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Top 6, there's no reason why we can't be. We have the creativity in midfield and pace up front with experience at the back. Still some work to do, but the signs are there it can come good.
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After the preseason we have had would be happy with place above relegation! Any better than that I would see as success!!
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Top 6
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Top 6, there's no reason why we can't be. We have the creativity in midfield and pace up front with experience at the back. Still some work to do, but the signs are there it can come good.
I'll be the first to admit this time last week I thought all chances were gone, since then Iv had a proper look at the teams in the league and like you say can't see no reason why we can't be there or there abouts, bar Bristol City who I think will walk the league everyone else are as good or should I say as bad as us! :whistle:
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Top 6, there's no reason why we can't be. We have the creativity in midfield and pace up front with experience at the back. Still some work to do, but the signs are there it can come good.
I'll be the first to admit this time last week I thought all chances were gone, since then Iv had a proper look at the teams in the league and like you say can't see no reason why we can't be there or there abouts, bar Bristol City who I think will walk the league everyone else are as good or should I say as bad as us! :whistle:
The only thing stopping Bristol City is the cock who is in charge of them
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I think we'll flirt with the playoffs for most of the season. How the actual playoffs go though is a lottery.
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I'll take top half. Keep it interesting going into the season's final few games.
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Mid table, top half I think. Would be quite happy with that after the Summer we have had.
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Top 6, there's no reason why we can't be. We have the creativity in midfield and pace up front with experience at the back. Still some work to do, but the signs are there it can come good.
I'll be the first to admit this time last week I thought all chances were gone, since then Iv had a proper look at the teams in the league and like you say can't see no reason why we can't be there or there abouts, bar Bristol City who I think will walk the league everyone else are as good or should I say as bad as us! :whistle:
The only thing stopping Bristol City is the cock who is in charge of them
Indeed, with the budget and players they have they have to be favourites.
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Top 6, there's no reason why we can't be. We have the creativity in midfield and pace up front with experience at the back. Still some work to do, but the signs are there it can come good.
I'll be the first to admit this time last week I thought all chances were gone, since then Iv had a proper look at the teams in the league and like you say can't see no reason why we can't be there or there abouts, bar Bristol City who I think will walk the league everyone else are as good or should I say as bad as us! :whistle:
The only thing stopping Bristol City is the cock who is in charge of them
Indeed, with the budget and players they have they have to be favourites.
Who have they got? I didnt realise they were that strong. Should they be in my league winners accumulator this season?
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Bristol won't win it imo.
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JET, Baldock and Ayling.
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I expect to miss more kick-offs than I see and watch most games through a beer-induced haze.
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JET, Baldock and Ayling.
Baldock won't be there imo.
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They also signed Luke Freeman from Stevenage who is a very good player + they put a bid in for Kieran Agard today
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playoffs
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This league is hard to predict. The first time we got out of it I thought we had a very good team but only managed to do it through the play-offs. Last time was a worse team but we managed to win it.
I don't think we have a squad to challenge this time round and I'm still not sure Dickov knows what he is doing over a longer period of time. My expectation is mid-table but would be happy to be in and around the play-offs.
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This league is hard to predict. The first time we got out of it I thought we had a very good team but only managed to do it through the play-offs. Last time was a worse team but we managed to win it.
I don't think we have a squad to challenge this time round and I'm still not sure Dickov knows what he is doing over a longer period of time. My expectation is mid-table but would be happy to be in and around the play-offs.
You took the words out of my mouth.
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Sheff u, Bristol City, Preston, Peterbrough, dingles are the only teams who I would be worried about. I think with the squad we've got plus 5 or 6 others that we are going to add theirs no reason we carnt finish top 6 apart from the teams I've mentioned like last time theirs not many quality teams to worrie about. Having jones back is big boost for us if we manage to keep Quinn, having them 2 as starting center halfs would be massive for us.
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champions :-P
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Sheff u, Bristol City, Preston, Peterbrough, dingles are the only teams who I would be worried about. I think with the squad we've got plus 5 or 6 others that we are going to add theirs no reason we carnt finish top 6 apart from the teams I've mentioned like last time theirs not many quality teams to worrie about. Having jones back is big boost for us if we manage to keep Quinn, having them 2 as starting center halfs would be massive for us.
I think we should Leyton Orient to the list of strong teams this year. Also at least one of the promoted sides usually does well
Midtable at best for me, unless we strengthen more than looks likely at the moment. Of course we might also strengthen in January.
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We will struggle with the current squad. Forrester, Coppinger and possibly Keegs if he signs are the shining lights. Any injuries and we will be in turmoil. I could argue with you that PDs Oldham squad was better than this lot.
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One thing's for sure the league this time around is a lot stronger/competitive
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We will struggle with the current squad. Forrester, Coppinger and possibly Keegs if he signs are the shining lights. Any injuries and we will be in turmoil. I could argue with you that PDs Oldham squad was better than this lot.
You would argue Night was Day, your opinion doesn't count for much!
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14th tops for me. Unless we make a lot of additions
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We will struggle with the current squad. Forrester, Coppinger and possibly Keegs if he signs are the shining lights. Any injuries and we will be in turmoil. I could argue with you that PDs Oldham squad was better than this lot.
You would argue Night was Day, your opinion doesn't count for much!
Are you saying it wasn't? Including their loan players it was much better.
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We will struggle with the current squad. Forrester, Coppinger and possibly Keegs if he signs are the shining lights. Any injuries and we will be in turmoil. I could argue with you that PDs Oldham squad was better than this lot.
You would argue Night was Day, your opinion doesn't count for much!
Are you saying it wasn't? Including their loan players it was much better.
I agree looking at it, it probably was on level terms with ours or better.
But I think dickov massively underachieved hence one of the reasons he was sacked/left before he was sacked at Oldham.
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In a player versus player comparison I would definitely pick Furman in midfield
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PD had his hands tied in terms of the back room setup he had. In terms of players he had some decent ones. Smith and Baxter up top with Derbyshire. Jonathan Grounds (who is now at Birmingham) with M'Voto, who he raved about, at the back. Plenty of good players for this level and it gives us some sort of benchmark of what you need to be competitive. We are well short at the minute. Hopefully we have left the injury nightmare behind and we can get on ok with a small squad.
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We will be lucky to get top 10 in my Opinion after this summer. I can also see Forrester ripping the league up and moving on in January.
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This time last year I said we would get relegated and we did.
Having said that, with the players we brought in in January, and the position we were in with seven games to go, we should never have gone down. As I've said many times before, that was IMO all down to one man. And he's still here.
With the players we have now, I say we will really struggle this season. If Coppinger, Keegan and Quinn stay, and we bring in another 2 or 3 decent players, then mid table. If we have a run of injuries like we do EVERY season, I think it will be a battle to get near mid table.
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Top 10 for me. As long as we get a semi decent keeper and a few a bit more defensive experience we will do well
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Difficult to say. There are obvious gaps to fill, but if we can bring in a strong goalkeeper and field a solid defence (with Jones at the heart of it) then that gives us a solid base with the likes of Keegan protecting it. We have some good attacking players, so with some quality additions (hopefully approaching) we could yet surprise a few.
Lots of ifs, but it's not without hope.
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Would like to think we're play offs or there abouts. I've bets on @work with Gills and Scunny fans for us to finish above them. Cash in the bank!!
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14th tops for me. Unless we make a lot of additions
I'm with you Donnybax.....14th too and a pretty average season.
We are due one, over the last few years we have either been fighting relegation or fighting for promotion.
Exactly as SOD called it a "yo yo team flitting between the 2nd and 3rd tiers of the EFL.
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Mid table at best.
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...with M'Voto, who he raved about, at the back.
Or, as he is known in Barnsley, "Shinner" M'Voto. The lads I work with have described the feeling they get when he goes near the ball on the deck. Its exactly the same as I used to get with F-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-enton
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Hand on heart, if we're top two, we'll definitely go up. From third to sixth, playoffs.
More night nurse please. Wibble.
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who woss in PDs Oldham squad
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Genuine expectations? To be competitive in every game, especially in the midfield "engine room". Do that and results, and table position, will follow.
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anyone seen this? https://twitter.com/Rupee92/status/494214880216752128
Think he'll go through with it? ;)
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anyone seen this? https://twitter.com/Rupee92/status/494214880216752128
Think he'll go through with it? ;)
Not as long as I have a hole in my arse....
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I've got a feeling there won't be many teams looking forward to playing Doncaster Rovers this season. If both Jones & Mcombe are fit nothings gonna get past them in the air with hopefully a couple of speedy full backs to tuck in when needed. I know Dickov likes to play a high pressing game but I think we would be better suited to sitting deep & hitting teams on the break with the pace of the front 4 at present. Having said that there's no reason why our midfield can't control games especially if we can keep Wellens. Couple of signings & we will be just fine.
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anyone seen this? https://twitter.com/Rupee92/status/494214880216752128
Think he'll go through with it? ;)
Does anyone REALLY care?
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Bottom half but above the relegation places. Anything above is a bonus.
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anyone seen this? https://twitter.com/Rupee92/status/494214880216752128
Think he'll go through with it? ;)
The ironic thing is it's not the first time I've seen him and though "right ar5e"
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Mid table if where lucky.
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It's difficult to call at this point, I'm unfamiliar with this league again, whether or not the standard is higher than last time, I don't know.
The squad we have looks to have some potential, if we can add some strength in depth.
I'll go for mid table but I wouldn't be surprised if we can do better than that.
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If we can wait until the end of April, we'll have a good idea of where we will finish..
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I'm not offering to have my a**e tattooed ;) but I'll be surprised if we finish above 12th.
Some decent players but not enough strength in depth. If we get injuries we'll be falling back on using very inexperienced lads.
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Idd imagin if we got injuries that's when we would use the loan market.
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I expect us to play a lot more football than the last time we were at this level. That may or may not work in our favour but at least it will be better to watch.
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After the disappointments of certain departures, I'm encouraged by some of the players we've since retained and brought in. The likes of Wabara can improve and potentially excel at this level. What I'm confused about is the short term contract he's been given, the one month deal for Keegan, and the signing of a promising young keeper on a short term loan. I thought I understood the strategy when it was set out, but I'm struggling to reconcile it with the above. I hope it's still to become clearer, as right now I'm still left wondering a bit.
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I think someone got it close to the money in another thread when he said there's nothing to be confused about, the supposed strategy was just words. I'm happy with the way the first team is shaping up, a but more depth and we are looking good, but I'm unhappy that this strategy was wheeled out for seemingly no other reason than to placate the fans. I think most level headed fans would have been reasonably happy with the signings we have made had the board just kept their counsel, but unfortunately if the strategy is all hot air then announcing it will ultimately cause more harm than good by invoking a lack of trust in the board.
I hope to be proven wrong, and that as you've said Jonathan it does become clearer, but I can't see that being the case at the moment.
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Do you not think that the strategy may take longer to implement than just a couple of weeks?
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Of course. However they've offered a number of contracts to young players and to senior players which just don't tally up. I'm not saying it would or should be in place right away, but you'd expect to see a movement towards it - as yet this seems like any other pre season.
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Expectations - relegation.
Statement from Board - aims are to get back to the CHampionship, then the next statement was about the plan/strategy.
Budget - must be nowhere near teams that are realistically going for promotion.
I genuinely feel sorry for PD. He's had similar treatment at his last Club and here we go again. We've gone backwards. I also feel sorry for all those sth's who were led to believe that we'd be going oft it this season. Led up the garden path does not even come near!
Seriously unimpressed with the goings on since the end of last season.
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Mid table, due to small squad and if injuries hit we might struggle to put a half decent side out.
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This squad is not much worse off than the one we won the title with
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Reckon 10th at best a few injuries then what's the back up plan ??
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I think we'll do alright.
Sorry to be positive n'all that.
What we need is a bit of luck with injuries.