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Quote from: drfchound on Today at 06:45:17 pm

Quote from: danumdon on Today at 06:19:13 pm

Quote from: Iberian Red on Today at 06:09:49 pm

Quote from: danumdon on Today at 06:01:04 pm

Some of the polls quoting figures like  we've seen are scary and dangerous for democracy.

For an elected government to have way over 400 seats and the main opposition to be numbered in the 60's is quite frankly what you would expect in some tinpot, despot nations that have democracy as a veil for rampant dictatorial or fascist behaviour.

I'm not saying Starmer's party are either of the above but it does make you wonder where the direction of travel would be with a party having this kind of majority?

Would i be wrong in saying that a win like this would make any produced manifesto worthless after 22.01 on July 4th?

Would the temptation to strip out the manifesto that the election had been fought on to produce a new and much more radical direction be too great for Starmer to resist? or would it be approached in a sensible and pragmatic manner?

I'm thinking the former, Starmer is odds on to win with a massive majority, the vested interests in the back rooms will be tempted to go full on and attempt to correct some perceived wrongs very early and quickly, this in itself could well produce some kickback in the acceptance of this type of skulduggery.

The feelgood factor that many will have could change very quickly to something very different. Im hoping that sensible and clever people in the party fight this urge.

The economy is still very fragile with a great many grey clouds on the horizon, any one of them could turn at a moments notice and quite easily drop a massive pile of sh*t in our general direction.

People could turn and change very quickly in this type of scenario, sometimes going all in like this can turn jubilation into nationwide despair very quickly.

The warning signs are there and the party leadership need to be level headed and strong, something we have not yet seen, unfortunately.

We will soon know the direction of travel.

I can summarise all those points and hypothetical questions.
You are wrong.
Why the constant hyperbolism,Dail Heil posting in everything you pit on here?

You just can't help yourself.

If you consider what i've posted as "constant hyperbolism,Dail Heil posting" then stand up and debate exactly why YOU think so.

Posting constant crap to everything that people post won't cut it fella, most already think your a one trick pony, and its gone well past its sell by.

Most of Iberians posts are insulting or fishing for responses dd.
Just look at his posts today alone and they sum him up to a tee.
Just ignore him and he gets more hyped up and posts even more crap.

Lovely post old lad

The Truth hurts Iberian aye!

Quote from: Colin C No.3 on Today at 11:50:05 am

Quote from: scawsby steve on May 31, 2024, 09:35:54 pm

Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2024, 09:17:39 pm

I'm not sure it's even as based as that.

It's just a way of asserting patriarchal authority.

Islam does it.
Catholicism does it.
Fundamentalist Protestantism does it.

It's about control and authority.

You missed out atheism on that list, BST.

Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, Kim Jong Un.

How do you make out that atheism is another way of asserting patriarchal authority?

I’m an atheist & having worked on the front line of the NHS would argue all day long that women should have parity with men on every front.

My wife is an atheist too, as I’m sure are many other women.

Look at our world & tell me there is a superior authority ‘looking down on us’ that is ‘there’ for our well-being.

I'm not going to get into a debate with you or anyone else about faith. As I've said on here many times, it's a personal and private thing, and there's no scientific proof either way. You're right that some women are atheists, although in my lifetime I've found women in general to be more spiritual than men.

On the subject of women, I've been an advocate of them having the same parity with men on earnings for a long time. As soon as women footballers start filling stadiums, which will soon begin to happen, they should get the same pay as the men.

There is growing evidence that an Omniptesent creator doesn't exist. The theists are ever being squeezed into a corner. Since they are the ones making bold claims, it's really up to them to prove it but all they have is blind faith. Just believe it without question.

Seen objectively, Christianity is an obscure middle eastern cult adopted by the Roman empire (Constantine proclaimed in York) as a more efficient form of social control

Quote from: danumdon on Today at 06:19:13 pm

Quote from: Iberian Red on Today at 06:09:49 pm

Quote from: danumdon on Today at 06:01:04 pm

Some of the polls quoting figures like  we've seen are scary and dangerous for democracy.

For an elected government to have way over 400 seats and the main opposition to be numbered in the 60's is quite frankly what you would expect in some tinpot, despot nations that have democracy as a veil for rampant dictatorial or fascist behaviour.

I'm not saying Starmer's party are either of the above but it does make you wonder where the direction of travel would be with a party having this kind of majority?

Would i be wrong in saying that a win like this would make any produced manifesto worthless after 22.01 on July 4th?

Would the temptation to strip out the manifesto that the election had been fought on to produce a new and much more radical direction be too great for Starmer to resist? or would it be approached in a sensible and pragmatic manner?

I'm thinking the former, Starmer is odds on to win with a massive majority, the vested interests in the back rooms will be tempted to go full on and attempt to correct some perceived wrongs very early and quickly, this in itself could well produce some kickback in the acceptance of this type of skulduggery.

The feelgood factor that many will have could change very quickly to something very different. Im hoping that sensible and clever people in the party fight this urge.

The economy is still very fragile with a great many grey clouds on the horizon, any one of them could turn at a moments notice and quite easily drop a massive pile of sh*t in our general direction.

People could turn and change very quickly in this type of scenario, sometimes going all in like this can turn jubilation into nationwide despair very quickly.

The warning signs are there and the party leadership need to be level headed and strong, something we have not yet seen, unfortunately.

We will soon know the direction of travel.

I can summarise all those points and hypothetical questions.
You are wrong.
Why the constant hyperbolism,Dail Heil posting in everything you pit on here?

You just can't help yourself.

If you consider what i've posted as "constant hyperbolism,Dail Heil posting" then stand up and debate exactly why YOU think so.

Posting constant crap to everything that people post won't cut it fella, most already think your a one trick pony, and its gone well past its sell by.

Most of Iberians posts are insulting or fishing for responses dd.
Just look at his posts today alone and they sum him up to a tee.
Just ignore him and he gets more hyped up and posts even more crap.

Lovely post old lad