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Title: Embarrassing
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 28, 2020, 10:27:50 pm
Listen. I watched it on iPlayer. All you lot in the crowd shouting get it forward and moaning at EVERY single backwards pass really need to check yourself. You came over loud and clear, the only thing you can hear on the audio, in fact.

God only knows what the players and manager must think stood there listening to that.

You're there to support.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: Spilsby Red on January 28, 2020, 10:46:21 pm
Agree. Unfortunately people don’t see the fact that to move forward you might have to go backward to get forward and keep possession
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 28, 2020, 10:47:59 pm
I'm glad you posted that first. Just got in and was about to have a rant.

When we try to work the ball and make a mistake, it's moan and groan. In fact half of them are moaning even before we make a mistake, yet when we have a good passage of play they don't clap or cheer. The only time they show approval is when we score.

It beggars belief at times, especially when we're 2-0 up. I shudder to think what DM makes of it.
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Post by: RoversAlias on January 28, 2020, 10:48:15 pm
You're right CiM, it was very noticeable watching on iFollow. I find it rather frustrating.
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Post by: silent majority on January 28, 2020, 10:49:17 pm
I must be going deaf, I never heard a thing.

A few moans with misplaced passes, but nothing more than that.
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Post by: roversontheup on January 28, 2020, 10:53:35 pm
There’s a guy sat a couple of rows in front of me in East Stand who was almost apoplectic. Just yells to get the ball forward. I seriously worry for his health!
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Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 28, 2020, 10:54:20 pm
Listen. I watched it on iPlayer. All you lot in the crowd shouting get it forward and moaning at EVERY single backwards pass really need to check yourself. You came over loud and clear, the only thing you can hear on the audio, in fact.

God only knows what the players and manager must think stood there listening to that.

You're there to support.

I'm away with work and watched on iFollow.

Immediately after we scored the first, we played a couple of sideways passes in midfield, resulting in a scream from someone in the West Stand of "FORRRRAAAAAD!'

Come on. You know who you are.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: drfchound on January 28, 2020, 10:56:25 pm
We created some of our best shooting opportunities tonight from playing it short at the back to begin things.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 28, 2020, 11:00:36 pm
They should put some kind of manual on the back of season tickets.

"Stay calm, reasons for passing it backwards"

1. Laying it off to a player facing forward to pick a pass
2. Creating space
3. Taking pressure off the team
4. ...
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: mushRTID on January 28, 2020, 11:01:26 pm
Didn’t hear much negative in the south stand around me.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: Filo on January 28, 2020, 11:03:50 pm
I’m in the west, apart from a few moans and groans when passes are misplaced I did n’t hear any gerrit foraad shouts
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 28, 2020, 11:06:06 pm
I’m in the west, apart from a few moans and groans when passes are misplaced I did n’t hear any gerrit foraad shouts

If he wasn't in the West Stand, I feel for his neighbours when his kids play up.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 28, 2020, 11:07:25 pm
I’m in the west, apart from a few moans and groans when passes are misplaced I did n’t hear any gerrit foraad shouts

Lucky you. Must have just been me surrounded then!
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Post by: Not Now Kato on January 28, 2020, 11:15:30 pm
Nope.  Lots in front of me in the West Stand - back behind the dugouts!
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Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on January 28, 2020, 11:24:26 pm
Clowns who don't understand football. Simple as that. Pay money to shout b*llocks. Fair play.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: Tiddysdad on January 28, 2020, 11:31:40 pm
I’m in the west, apart from a few moans and groans when passes are misplaced I did n’t hear any gerrit foraad shouts

I attended tonight's game and sat in west stand for the first time in ages and the old chap sat behind me nearly bust my ears shouting get it forward. Everyone kept laughing at him saying he's at it again. This just encourage him to do it more.
Never any praise.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: Drover on January 28, 2020, 11:32:01 pm
Jeezus,fans Moaning about fans moaning, :facepalm: :whistle: :lol:
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: keith79 on January 28, 2020, 11:53:28 pm
I like the fact people who are sat at home are moaning about the people who went.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 29, 2020, 12:17:47 am
I like the fact people who are sat at home are moaning about the people who went.  Unbelievable.

I don't live in the country. I still put money into the club and will get to some games regardless.

Your comment is a perfect illustration of the issue. Some kind of deeply ingrained childlike pathologic right that people think they have that, just by being in the stadium, they can shout counter-productive, inane shite for 90 minutes.

Get you moans out on here and all your tactical musings also but keep your anti-support out of the ground.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: RoversAlias on January 29, 2020, 01:13:58 am
I like the fact people who are sat at home are moaning about the people who went.  Unbelievable.

This was the first home league game I've missed all season. Couldn't get there midweek from 120 miles away. Paid £10 to spend the evening watching the game on my television.

The only other two people who have posted in here that weren't at the game were CiM, who as he says isn't in the country, and BST, who was away with work and most definitely attends usually. Several others in here have indicated they noticed the same things from being at the match.

So I'm not sure what your point is.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 29, 2020, 06:35:51 am
Wow!! Some very harsh comments on here! When I’m at a game I generally think and act with spontaneity rather than any considered logic. Consequently the stuff I shout and bellow is quite often crap. Spontaneous crap. But crap all the same.

 I’m the fan who used to shout at McCindoe to ‘pass and move’ a second before he effortlessly glided past an opposition full back with the ball stuck to his feet. I’m the fan who shouted to Kieran Brady ‘don’t try it from there for Christ’s sake’ a second before he hit a 30 yard rocket into the top corner of the Scunny goal. I’m the fan who shouted to Steve Lister to ‘get bloody rid of it and kick it into the stand’ before he nutmegged an opposing centre forward and laid in a dream pass for Ian Nimmo to score. I’m also the fan who’ll shout at the players ‘don’t dick about with it there’ while we play around with it at the back!

None of this is thought through or considered. I just shout whatever comes into my head at that moment and if anyone doesn’t like it or if I’m wrong (which I usually am) then tough titties really.

Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: 5 on Tour on January 29, 2020, 07:21:42 am
Also watching from home and it appears to be the same bloke for all 90 minutes. Constantly shouting get it up. When Halliday collected the ball in the centre circle and passed back to Dieng he sounded like he was going to explode. Sads played a pass square and it was intercepted mid way through the first half and I learnt some new swear words from him.

People need to enjoy the game and calm down. I assume we all go for enjoyment anyway.
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Post by: drfchound on January 29, 2020, 07:23:35 am
Wow!! Some very harsh comments on here! When I’m at a game I generally think and act with spontaneity rather than any considered logic. Consequently the stuff I shout and bellow is quite often crap. Spontaneous crap. But crap all the same.

 I’m the fan who used to shout at McCindoe to ‘pass and move’ a second before he effortlessly glided past an opposition full back with the ball stuck to his feet. I’m the fan who shouted to Kieran Brady ‘don’t try it from there for Christ’s sake’ a second before he hit a 30 yard rocket into the top corner of the Scunny goal. I’m the fan who shouted to Steve Lister to ‘get bloody rid of it and kick it into the stand’ before he nutmegged an opposing centre forward and laid in a dream pass for Ian Nimmo to score. I’m also the fan who’ll shout at the players ‘don’t dick about with it there’ while we play around with it at the back!

None of this is thought through or considered. I just shout whatever comes into my head at that moment and if anyone doesn’t like it or if I’m wrong (which I usually am) then tough titties really.






I have to say that your post made me chuckle HA.
Admirable honesty. 😂
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: idler on January 29, 2020, 07:34:00 am
I think that the ones who get frustrated are probably pessimists who are always scared of us conceding.
I had given my free tickets away as we got back after a ten hour flight yesterday morning. I watched most of it on ifollow but it had the Southend commentary on for some reason. They were terribly biased. Their goal was called a slight deflection. They also kept getting Sadlier who they called Sadler mixed up with Copps and even said it was Sadlier hitting the post. They also got him mixed up and gave him credit for a couple of Halliday runs near the box.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: vaya on January 29, 2020, 07:42:00 am
In a similar vein, big shout out to the bloke down in front of me in the West Stand who after 14 minutes bellowed out "Where's your game plan Moore!!??"
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 29, 2020, 09:05:36 am
I get it that people pay their money and have a right to shout whatever but its about balance and surely, if you shout a bit of criticism, you should also be prepared to praise and show encouragement.

I may be wrong and have unrealistic expectations of the fans around me but I think this group of players deserve a bit of slack and not be too harsh on them.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: keith79 on January 29, 2020, 10:48:47 am
I like the fact people who are sat at home are moaning about the people who went.  Unbelievable.

This was the first home league game I've missed all season. Couldn't get there midweek from 120 miles away. Paid £10 to spend the evening watching the game on my television.

The only other two people who have posted in here that weren't at the game were CiM, who as he says isn't in the country, and BST, who was away with work and most definitely attends usually. Several others in here have indicated they noticed the same things from being at the match.

So I'm not sure what your point is.
maybe people who go should sit in silence for the risk upsetting  you.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: 5 on Tour on January 29, 2020, 11:12:32 am
I like the fact people who are sat at home are moaning about the people who went.  Unbelievable.

You’re spot on Keith. Fans who travel home and away and never miss matches stay at home for one game - in my case due to having my leg in a cast - and we lose our right to views and opinions.

Get a grip!
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 29, 2020, 11:16:23 am
maybe people who go should sit in silence for the risk upsetting  you.

Maybe moaning isn't the only noise you can make in a stadium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwmeH6Rnj2E
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: keith79 on January 29, 2020, 11:17:51 am
Hahaha cats
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: keith79 on January 29, 2020, 11:19:06 am
I like the fact people who are sat at home are moaning about the people who went.  Unbelievable.

You’re spot on Keith. Fans who travel home and away and never miss matches stay at home for one game - in my case due to having my leg in a cast - and we lose our right to views and opinions.

Get a grip!
neither do I. Get a grip. If people want to moan let them moan.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: RoversAlias on January 29, 2020, 12:34:54 pm
I like the fact people who are sat at home are moaning about the people who went.  Unbelievable.

This was the first home league game I've missed all season. Couldn't get there midweek from 120 miles away. Paid £10 to spend the evening watching the game on my television.

The only other two people who have posted in here that weren't at the game were CiM, who as he says isn't in the country, and BST, who was away with work and most definitely attends usually. Several others in here have indicated they noticed the same things from being at the match.

So I'm not sure what your point is.
maybe people who go should sit in silence for the risk upsetting  you.

What are you on about?

All I've said on this thread is that I find the negativity frustrating. Not sure why that offends you so much.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 29, 2020, 12:43:47 pm
I like the fact people who are sat at home are moaning about the people who went.  Unbelievable.

You’re spot on Keith. Fans who travel home and away and never miss matches stay at home for one game - in my case due to having my leg in a cast - and we lose our right to views and opinions.

Get a grip!
neither do I. Get a grip. If people want to moan let them moan.

People have a right to moan.

Equally, people have a right to point out that people who moan at a match like last night's are bell-ends.

I do find it interesting how many people who demand the right to moan about others' shortcomings then get upset when folk point out THEIR shortcomings.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: 5 on Tour on January 29, 2020, 01:01:59 pm
I like the fact people who are sat at home are moaning about the people who went.  Unbelievable.

You’re spot on Keith. Fans who travel home and away and never miss matches stay at home for one game - in my case due to having my leg in a cast - and we lose our right to views and opinions.

Get a grip!
neither do I. Get a grip. If people want to moan let them moan.

I have no literally no idea what you are going on about now...
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: selby on January 29, 2020, 01:10:08 pm
  I sit directly in front of the camera stand, I would say it is the same fella shouting , he sits just a few rows down in front of me with a couple of his mates.
  He is a great supporter, enthusiastic get's carried away, loves the game to bits and has every right to shout and support his team as he sees it.
  He loved Alfie May, and nobody on here vocally encouraged Alfie more than he did, and he never misses a home game.
  So his vision of how the game is played is different to some of the touchline internationals that post on here, just give it a break, and try and enjoy the game as much as he does, your missing out. The OP is more embarrassing.
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Post by: colfromdonny on January 29, 2020, 01:14:30 pm
100% correct Brian
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Post by: mjg on January 29, 2020, 04:07:17 pm
Passing the ball across your 6 yard box all the time is a bit silly , I think the crowd are frustrated with the mistakes being made by passing the ball back and forth the the keeper , Hence the crowd panicking and shouting get it forward so they can relax for a bit mistake free
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: IDM on January 29, 2020, 04:09:47 pm
There are far more times that a mistake isn’t made, than is.

Sometimes a forward pass isn’t “on” due to the players not being in the right place to receive one, or the opposition player positions.

Keeping the ball is important, even if not exciting to watch..
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 29, 2020, 04:13:19 pm
It's only silly if a mistake is made. Passing the ball out is not silly trying to draw the opposition out. The key for all players is making that risk assessment. The more they practice, the better they will get.

I don't think DM will be changing the strategy any time soon.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: Al4475 on January 29, 2020, 04:18:36 pm
I distinctly remember the pass and move under SO'D v QPR that made it's way onto YouTube (you know the one I'm sure) and I said to my Mrs at the time - 'just look at this - this is how you play football, keep possession and they can't get near us' and people all around me (in the West stand that day) were booing and shouting 'gerrit forward, bust it' etc etc. I was gobsmacked - it was a wonderful passage of play that nearly resulted in a great team goal! Sometimes some people don't understand fully what they're watching I think.
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Post by: IDM on January 29, 2020, 04:23:11 pm
And the one at Leeds where Sharp eventually scored..
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Post by: Al4475 on January 29, 2020, 04:24:04 pm
Yep that one too - but the Qpr one sticks in my mind - I thought it was utterly breathtaking!
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Post by: drfchound on January 29, 2020, 04:40:56 pm
Just lumping the ball forward all too often results in it coming straight back at us anyway.
As has been said, keeping the ball is very important and even when it is being passed across the back four or back to the keeper it is being done with a purpose, not just for the sake of it.
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Post by: roversdude on January 29, 2020, 05:12:32 pm
If it was around the time the Southend fans were singing about a library it definitely wasn’t foreword that was shouted lol
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Post by: mattco on January 29, 2020, 05:36:39 pm
I see the, positives in playing out from the back and in passing backwards / sideways to keep possession. What I do complain about is playing suicide passes in our own goal area which immediately put us under ridiculous pressure. A bit more commonsense from Dieng (whom I rate highly) would reduce a lot of the complaining from the crowd.
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Post by: mjg on January 29, 2020, 06:40:01 pm
Well said that man
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Post by: Al4475 on January 29, 2020, 06:51:08 pm
There's a time and a place for it all - the good teams choose the right options for the type of game, how the game is balanced, how the time is running down etc etc.

The ones that are not quite so good don't - simple!
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: i_ateallthepies on January 29, 2020, 06:56:58 pm
There's a time and a place for it all - the good teams choose the right options for the type of game, how the game is balanced, how the time is running down etc etc.

The ones that are not quite so good don't - simple!

 :that:
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: drfchound on January 29, 2020, 07:06:47 pm
We can’t be so bad at it ourselves.
Second fewest goals conceded in the division and only two of them as a direct result of playing out from the back.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: mjg on January 29, 2020, 07:26:54 pm
Because the opposition is rubbish
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: drfchound on January 29, 2020, 07:29:12 pm
But it is the same opposition that all the other teams in the division play against too.
Title: Re: Embarrassing
Post by: scawsby steve on January 29, 2020, 07:41:39 pm
We can’t be so bad at it ourselves.
Second fewest goals conceded in the division and only two of them as a direct result of playing out from the back.

One was the penalty Daniels gave away against Burton. What was the other one mate? I can't remember.