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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: 1879Rovers on January 08, 2016, 07:11:53 am
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Andy Williams has won the League One Player of the Month for December.
Well done Andy. :woohoo: :scarf:
Who was the last Doncaster player to win the award - Any division (Billy Sharp?)
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Fully deserved. Great first touch.
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Been excellent for a good few months now. Well deserved.
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Fully deserved. Great first touch.
He's improved greatly over the last couple of months, and has clearly responded to DF's demands as a hard tuskmaster.
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Great news.
Shows what I know.
http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=254378.msg575972#msg575972
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I have a 'tier 1' of rovers strikers in my life time. Currently only Sharp and Blundell are on it but Williams is fast making his way there.
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BST
You weren't wrong at the time though, nor were you the only one to come to that conclusion.
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Lad, lads no need to feel guilty or come home with your tail between your legs ... no one will remember your comments as they were overshadowed by a remark made about his first touch.
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CIM Copps,
I don't feel guilty about my negative thoughts on some of his past performances, I just give credit when it's due, and it's due now. I haven't changed my opinion about anything, and stand by them, right or wrong.
Same as if he loses form again, I won't feel like I was wrong to show positive optimism during his good spell.
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Copps
How can Heffernan not be in Tier 1?
I could watch his goals against Villa and Bristol Rivers at Cardiff all day.
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Yep he is in the form of his career just need that clinical finishing tomorrow.
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This tier One, where are Clarrie Jordan, King Alick, Laurie Sheffield. Brendan O'Callahan and Pete Kitchen, or is it just players that you have seen?
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Sorry Copps. I should have read, "in my lifetime".
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Copps
How can Heffernan not be in Tier 1?
I could watch his goals against Villa and Bristol Rivers at Cardiff all day.
I'll admit my tier 1 is based on my own prejudices, games I've seen and what sticks in my memory most vividly. It may, in fact, also be down to the celebrations that usually followed a Blundell/Sharp goal. That has also unfairly biased me.
To be considered, a striker needs either a season long or two prolonged periods of continuous scoring. All three players mentioned fulfil that criteria. I guess what sullies it slightly for Heffernan is the off periods, the indiscipline and his general demeanour at times. I also remember Heffernan as a slightly more technical finisher than either Sharp of Blundell. The latter just tended to belt it into the net or feed of scraps which speaks more to my irrational view of things where Heffernan's goals always seemed well placed side of the foot jobs.
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The last Rovers player that I can recall even getting a nomination was Duffy.
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Barnes, Blundell, Heffernan, Sharp, Williams!
Top class strikers!
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Great news.
Shows what I know.
http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=254378.msg575972#msg575972
All take note of how to do a classy mea culpa, from BST.
Now, if someone can dig out the claim that Theo would be a double figures striker last season....
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CB
You never did read that claim properly did you!
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Don't forget Steve Brooker, Guy Ipoua, Bruce Dyer, John Bukovina ("Best player ever to wear a Rovers shirt" tannoyed Dave Parker temporarily taking his tongue out of JR's a**e), Richard Offiong, Gareth Taylor, Justin Jackson & last but by no means least, our vey own......Lewis Guy!
Ah yes, we've all been spoilt over the years!
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Don't forget Steve Brooker, Guy Ipoua, Bruce Dyer, John Bukovina ("Best player ever to wear a Rovers shirt" tannoyed Dave Parker temporarily taking his tongue out of JR's a**e), Richard Offiong, Gareth Taylor, Justin Jackson & last but by no means least, our vey own......Lewis Guy!
Ah yes, we've all been spoilt over the years!
I still remember when Lewis scored against Derby in our 1st game in the Championship and I thought oooo sh!t I might have misjudged this lad all this time and he must have really pulled his socks up this season! I was soon proven that my initial assessment was right! Ha!
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Didn't Bukovina play for Rovers in early 80s?
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Yep. Bukovina came from Denaby Utd in 1983. I was there for his one match. Away at Hartlepool. We were top of Div 4 and in the middle of a run where we only lost 4 times in 30-odd matches, with Bremner's team that comfortably won promotion.
We were cack that day. We lost 1-0. Buckovina barely touched the ball and never played for us again.
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Sharp, Heffs, Blundell, Barnes & Cramb make up my top five (or to put it another way, only five) great strikers of the last 20 years. Williams may get himself in there by the end of the season.
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What about Laurie Sheffield and Peter Kitchen and Big Bren
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ss, I mentioned those, and also King Alick and Clarrie Jordan, but in Copps is Magic's initial post, I missed where he said in HIS lifetime.
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Lad, lads no need to feel guilty or come home with your tail between your legs ... no one will remember your comments as they were overshadowed by a remark made about his first touch.
Funny how you don't keep having a sly dig at all the other posters who criticized him isn't it. Anyone would think you had a somewhat childish agenda.
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haha, agenda? No, I love you really Welred. I just find it a bit entertaining that you posted that comment and then immediately after he scored a sublime goal based on control. Ignore me if you want. I would.
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haha, agenda? No, I love you really Welred. I just find it a bit entertaining that you posted that comment and then immediately after he scored a sublime goal based on control. Ignore me if you want. I would.
I don't mind you using an old name but try and get it correct.
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Williams is rubbish, nothing to be seen here, move along please.
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Sharp, Heffs, Blundell, Barnes & Cramb make up my top five (or to put it another way, only five) great strikers of the last 20 years. Williams may get himself in there by the end of the season.
Can't argue with that, they're my top 5 also. Although there are certainly some others worthy of a mention: Graeme Jones, Chris Brown, Ian Duerden to name just a few. All very good strikers that I've really enjoyed watching. The more you think about it, we've had some good uns.
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What about Hayter, in his prime and that goal against Leeds at Wembley. :clapping:
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I'd take Hayter over Heffs.
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Peter Kitchen was probably our most natural goal scorer over the last 50 odd years. A goal poacher if there ever was one.
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Heffs was a more natural goal scorer than Hayter but Hayter will also have had more 'assists'
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Yes, I think Hayter's overall contribution was greater than Heffs.
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Any way this thread is titled Andy Williams so what odds on him scoring tomorrow against Stoke. The winning goal maybe. Yes please and then we will be calling him Sir Andy Williams :thumbsup:
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I'd probably include mike jeffrey on my list as well! Vital goals for his coupla seasons with us!
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Williams is definitely showing a touch of class in his finishing. Some mentioned on here one or two that had different characteristics but in terms of composure and instinct, he's getting up there. Kitch and Heffs were strikers that were a second in front of everyone else and made vital yard in the head that made it look cool.
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Peter Kitchen was probably our most natural goal scorer over the last 50 odd years. A goal poacher if there ever was one.
Mike Elwiss might have eclipsed even Peter Kitchen but for injury.
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BST .. Big of you on WILLIAMS! Very cool !
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I like this top five in my lifetime concept. As i'm a grey beard, the choices are harder. But I reckon:
Alick Jeffrey
Michael McIndoe
Peter Kitchen
Mike Elwiss
Gregg Blundell
Bugger. I really can't leave Graeme Jones out. So my top five has six in it. Lol.
BobG
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Alick Jeffrey
Laurie Sheffield
Billy Sharp
James Hayter
Gregg Blundell
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This isn't easy is it?! The three players you picked BB that I didn't, are all damn fine players and all deserve to be right up there. We musta had tooooo many real good forwards!
BobG
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Are people forgetting Mike Jeffrey? How good was he?
Bruno and Muir got me moist also.
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Can't believe I forgot Don Page & Tony Cunningham...
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Oh hell. Now you've gone and found 3 more players who were damn good for us Nudga!
BobG
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True Bob, and picking players we liked seems a much less talked about topic than players we disliked!
After seeing your list I thought there must be a place for McIndoe in mine also, but when I made my list out I'd missed him off, not intentionally, I'd just ran out of space.
The bottom two on my list are more of a personal choice than anything else. The top three I think are simply the best I've seen.
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Well I don't think anyone can argue against Gregg Blundell or James Hayter. Gregg might have been a bit of an artisan, but he was just such a great bloke to watch, and he scored goals. Hayter didn't score so many, but he worked his knackers off every single week. Every one. And he wasn't bad either. I liked Bruno too though..... This is hard man!
Bob
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This is hard man!
I'm getting a lazy lob on an all.
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And now I'm wetting myself!
Bob
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no one has mentioned either Barnes nor Fortune West, both had an impact on Championship winning teams.
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Or Terry Curran either.... Daft as a brush, but quick as lightning and sometimes, absolutely devastating.
Or Tony Coleman come to think of it.
BobG
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My strikers 'Echelon' table would be
1---Billy Sharp--Mike Jeffrey
2---Paul Heffernan--James Hayter--Andy Williams
3---Paul Barnes---Gregg Blundell