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Christ on a penny-farthing, it's turning into a bad sitcom. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-48034732Ann Widdecombe. A politician who spent her entire career trying to pretend the 20th century didn't happen.Most failed old-folk have the decency to just shout at clouds. That generation is determined to drag the country back to some pre-War farce before they finally shuffle off.
PilskinPerfectly fair points and, on re-reading, that's not a well-written post of mine. What I SHOULD have said was "People of that generation like her, who have fought tooth and nail against the social advances of the second half of the Twentieth century are determined to drag us back to a pre-War farce before they shuffle off."(NB. "shuffle off" being something that we will all do one day, and a term that was first used by our national Bard. Would you say he was being "classy" when he coined that term?)I'll repeat. I do NOT despise old people. I'm going to be one myself one day. And I've known and admired many who, not only have put a superb shift in over their lifetimes, but they accept that the younger generations inherit the world, and they use their experience and wisdom to help guide and educate them.But I DO despise bigoted old people (or people of any age) who hate the modern world and want to impose their antediluvian obsessions on people who will have to deal with the shit they've left after they've gone. Like Widdecombe.
MMWell the Today programme on R4 interview Labour councillors from Sunderland and Barnsley who insisted that Labour was losing seats to the Lads and Green because it wasn't supporting Brexit.Granted, they didn't sound like the sharpest knives in the cutlery drawer.
Pilskin"shuffle off" being something that we will all do one day, and a term that was first used by our national Bard. Would you say he was being "classy" when he coined that term?
That's a bizarre extrapolation TRB.I'm struggling to see how on earth a Leave voter is registering a protest vote by voting for unambiguously pro-Remain parties. It's almost like you're suggesting that Leave voters aren't very bright.
There was a fair sized campaign online to get people to vote Lib Dem and Green to show their feeling on Brexit as Labour are increasingly seen (unsurprisingly) as a Brexit party too.
If there was a GE now the result would be brilliant. No chance anyone would get a majority.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on May 03, 2019, 01:29:05 pmIf there was a GE now the result would be brilliant. No chance anyone would get a majority.I think these elections and the EU ones will probably put to bed any idea that a General Election might break the Brexit logjam.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 03, 2019, 11:04:15 amThat's a bizarre extrapolation TRB.I'm struggling to see how on earth a Leave voter is registering a protest vote by voting for unambiguously pro-Remain parties. It's almost like you're suggesting that Leave voters aren't very bright. On the other hand, they might be showing a high degree of sophistication. We really wait to see when all the figures are in. Is it a case of voters just shunning the Tories, and Labour to a lesser degree, or are they actually flocking to the Lib Dems and Greens.
Quote from: RedJ on May 03, 2019, 12:53:19 pmThere was a fair sized campaign online to get people to vote Lib Dem and Green to show their feeling on Brexit as Labour are increasingly seen (unsurprisingly) as a Brexit party too.That was one of my points. If you are pro-Remain, and especially if you want a Second Referendum, there's no reason for you to vote Labour, either in these elections or the EU ones.
Local election results:https://mobile.twitter.com/lancewalton/status/1124108139836649472"If MPs can't interpret:Leave parties: Labour (-32), Con (-39), UKIP (-11) : total -82Remain parties: Lib Dems (+35), Green (+7) : total +42then they're too stupid to be MPs."Updated results: Conservatives: 1219 (-396)🔽 Labour: 899 (-81)🔼 Lib Dems: 521 (+271)🔼 Greens: 42 (+36)🔽 UKIP: 17 (-54)🔼 Others: 358 (+224)What's all this about democracy and that, then?