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Quote from: drfcsteve on April 28, 2024, 09:20:57 amWatching the video back I think the key question is whether Sterry’s header would have gone in for an own goal. I think there’s a possibility it would have done, but equally it might have been cleared.There is no way any Gillingham player is getting to the ball to score. I don’t think any appeal could be considered frivolous given the genuine doubt around whether a goal was denied. does the goals move at all when the ball gets closer because it would of gone a good 6 yard wide lol
Watching the video back I think the key question is whether Sterry’s header would have gone in for an own goal. I think there’s a possibility it would have done, but equally it might have been cleared.There is no way any Gillingham player is getting to the ball to score. I don’t think any appeal could be considered frivolous given the genuine doubt around whether a goal was denied.
He handled the ball miles out of the area. The force Sterry put into the header meant no defender was going to catch up to the ball.It's a stone cold red card. Just accept it and move on
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 28, 2024, 11:53:29 amHe handled the ball miles out of the area. The force Sterry put into the header meant no defender was going to catch up to the ball.It's a stone cold red card. Just accept it and move on.on wot grounds do you come up with that ???the ball wasn’t going in,don’t really blame the ref he takes one look at it so as soon as lino flags he had a decision to make which I feel was the wrong one
He handled the ball miles out of the area. The force Sterry put into the header meant no defender was going to catch up to the ball.It's a stone cold red card. Just accept it and move on.on wot grounds do you come up with that ???the ball wasn’t going in,don’t really blame the ref he takes one look at it so as soon as lino flags he had a decision to make which I feel was the wrong one
Quote from: donnievic on April 28, 2024, 11:59:31 amQuote from: drfcsteve on April 28, 2024, 09:20:57 amWatching the video back I think the key question is whether Sterry’s header would have gone in for an own goal. I think there’s a possibility it would have done, but equally it might have been cleared.There is no way any Gillingham player is getting to the ball to score. I don’t think any appeal could be considered frivolous given the genuine doubt around whether a goal was denied. does the goals move at all when the ball gets closer because it would of gone a good 6 yard wide lol Fair point, it might have been going wide. Tough to tell.
He handled the ball miles out of the area. The force Sterry put into the header meant no defender was going to catch up to the ball.It's a stone cold red card. Just accept it and move on.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 28, 2024, 11:53:29 amHe handled the ball miles out of the area. The force Sterry put into the header meant no defender was going to catch up to the ball.It's a stone cold red card. Just accept it and move on.I thought that too. He got a fair bit on the header. Fair chance it would’ve gone in if on target, which was difficult to say from where I stood.Maybe in hindsight it would’ve been better to keep TLT on and concede given it went to 1-2 straight away anyway, but I don’t even think TLT thought about it, looked instinctive to me.No harm done on the day as we got what we needed. Let’s hope Jones can pull out a performance in the first leg. I wonder if there’s any prospect of an emergency loan if Lawlor is still unavailable? Or can you only do that in the event of injuries to all your keepers (ie not a suspension in TLT’s case)
It seems wrong to have to appeal to get the decision reviewed because appeals open the door to aggravated punishment . The referee's committee should automatically review all red card incidents after the game and rescind or confirm irrespective of appeals.Why do football football regulators not understand that rugby is more dynamic from this point of view and take the example into football?
Quote from: Jimmydee on April 28, 2024, 10:32:30 amMaybe VAR could have defined if it was in/out of the penalty area, but alas…..really!!!!!! Wasn’t even close at least 2 yard outside
Maybe VAR could have defined if it was in/out of the penalty area, but alas…..
Quote from: donnievic on April 28, 2024, 12:02:58 pmQuote from: Jimmydee on April 28, 2024, 10:32:30 amMaybe VAR could have defined if it was in/out of the penalty area, but alas…..really!!!!!! Wasn’t even close at least 2 yard outsideHis feet were. His arm touching the ball is a lot further back.
Quote from: Campsall rover on April 28, 2024, 02:57:10 pmQuote from: donnievic on April 28, 2024, 12:02:58 pmQuote from: Jimmydee on April 28, 2024, 10:32:30 amMaybe VAR could have defined if it was in/out of the penalty area, but alas…..really!!!!!! Wasn’t even close at least 2 yard outsideHis feet were. His arm touching the ball is a lot further back.like I said still at least 2 yard out it isn’t even close
Quote from: donnievic on April 28, 2024, 03:16:05 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on April 28, 2024, 02:57:10 pmQuote from: donnievic on April 28, 2024, 12:02:58 pmQuote from: Jimmydee on April 28, 2024, 10:32:30 amMaybe VAR could have defined if it was in/out of the penalty area, but alas…..really!!!!!! Wasn’t even close at least 2 yard outsideHis feet were. His arm touching the ball is a lot further back.like I said still at least 2 yard out it isn’t even close The line marking the D isn't part of the penalty area it is simply an arc ten yards from the penalty spot to define the closest that players can stand when a penalty is to be taken.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 28, 2024, 11:53:29 amHe handled the ball miles out of the area. The force Sterry put into the header meant no defender was going to catch up to the ball.It's a stone cold red card. Just accept it and move on.Irrespective of how much power was in Sterry header, the ball was not going into the goal.It would have gone for a corner had a defender not got there first.
Quote from: drfchound on April 28, 2024, 07:09:47 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 28, 2024, 11:53:29 amHe handled the ball miles out of the area. The force Sterry put into the header meant no defender was going to catch up to the ball.It's a stone cold red card. Just accept it and move on.Irrespective of how much power was in Sterry header, the ball was not going into the goal.It would have gone for a corner had a defender not got there first.That may well be true, but is there any evidence it was going wide apart from hearsay from a few fans?
I was right in line with Sterrys header and I can categorically say it was NOT Going in.
The evidence from the clip suggests that the header was going miles wide of the goal.
Quote from: Prez on April 28, 2024, 09:25:55 amI was right in line with Sterrys header and I can categorically say it was NOT Going in.Maybe some people might think that Prez is fibbing then.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on April 28, 2024, 07:30:10 pmThe evidence from the clip suggests that the header was going miles wide of the goal.In real time, live, on Saturday I thought it was going wide.Having watched the highlights I haven’t changed my mind.
Quote from: drfchound on April 28, 2024, 07:31:37 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on April 28, 2024, 07:30:10 pmThe evidence from the clip suggests that the header was going miles wide of the goal.In real time, live, on Saturday I thought it was going wide.Having watched the highlights I haven’t changed my mind.You know just looking at it again i agree, if you freeze the point where TLT gets his hand on it you can see he is positioned to the left of the penalty spot in a straight line (BST could do some geometry for us again and prove it) with this being the case and from the position that Sterry heads it (he's to the left of TLT as we look)couple with the distance he is out from the goal line then compounding the balls flight trajectory back would have it missing the left hand post by a good distance.Maybe we should of appealed it. BST get your slide ruler out.
Quote from: danumdon on April 28, 2024, 07:42:03 pmQuote from: drfchound on April 28, 2024, 07:31:37 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on April 28, 2024, 07:30:10 pmThe evidence from the clip suggests that the header was going miles wide of the goal.In real time, live, on Saturday I thought it was going wide.Having watched the highlights I haven’t changed my mind.You know just looking at it again i agree, if you freeze the point where TLT gets his hand on it you can see he is positioned to the left of the penalty spot in a straight line (BST could do some geometry for us again and prove it) with this being the case and from the position that Sterry heads it (he's to the left of TLT as we look)couple with the distance he is out from the goal line then compounding the balls flight trajectory back would have it missing the left hand post by a good distance.Maybe we should of appealed it. BST get your slide ruler out.Not sure what the point is in doing that again. I was correct in the analysis of Dahlberg's position for that goal at Hillsborough and all that resulted in was decision from folk who didn't understand it. I'll let it pass this time, ta very much.