Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson

[Ldr]

Perfectly put

[BillyStubbsTears]

Cabinet Meeting this morning.

[SydneyRover]

Another one going, John Glen off into space

[BillyStubbsTears]

Getting serious now. Even MPs without Govt jobs are resigning!

https://mobile.twitter.com/Joe_Mayes/status/1544612326929727488

[BillyStubbsTears]

Translation for those who don't speak Lee Anderson.

"I've remained loyal all the way through Johnson' previous lies. But now I've woken up and realised that if we don't get shut of him, I'm out of work in 2 and a bit years. So, after a night spent search for my conscience...etc, etc"

[SydneyRover]

''Felicity Buchan resigns as PPS saying Johnson's position 'untenable'
And Felicity Buchan has resigned as a PPS (parliamentary private secretary) to the business department, saying Boris Johnson’s position is “untenable”.''

thick n fast now

[BillyStubbsTears]

With those 10 resignations presumably now ready to vote against Johnson in a VONC, that's already shifted the numbers from 59-41 last time to 56-44 now.

Would only take another 22 to flip in order for him to be out.

Thing to watch now is the vote for the Executive of the 1922 committee. If that gets taken over by anti-Johnson MPs, they'll change the rules to allow another VONC and he'll be out by the end of next week.

I reckon there's 7 out of that 22 who have flipped this morning. Based on that, the best Johnson could hope for in a VONC today would be to win 54-46.

[SydneyRover]

There's talk of not waiting and a delegation going to johnson saying 'if you don't go we will change the rules and make you go'

Guardian

[Ldr]

There's talk of not waiting and a delegation going to johnson saying 'if you don't go we will change the rules and make you go'

Guardian

I’d hope so

[Filo]

An opposition vote of no confidence should be tabled today, see how many of those resigning have principles and how many are offering lip service

[Ldr]

Will the last mp loyal to Boris please turn out the lights when you leave

[BillyStubbsTears]

As a person who cares about my country, its standing in the world and the viability of its political systems, this is horrific to watch. It's a systematic embarrassment.

But as someone who loathes the pathological liar and moral vacuum in No10, the fact that he's not even going to scrunch together his last scraps of decency and resign is a grimly enjoyable thing to see.

He's going to be forced out by the people around him having to public reject him. As a narcissistic, cowardly man-child, that will destroy him. And that's a necessary part of what we need to do to move on. He must be humiliated, to warn off anyone from trying to follow his lead. And given the person he is, wittingly or not, he's collaborating in the humiliation.

[SydneyRover]

the dam wall is cracking, Victoria Atkins, gone

[BillyStubbsTears]

An opposition vote of no confidence should be tabled today, see how many of those resigning have principles and how many are offering lip service

I think this would be exactly the right thing to do.

It wouldn't necessarily lead to an election. There would be the chance for the Tories to quickly put an acting PM on place who could get a majority in the House.

I've been against Labour calling a MONC in the Commons previously, because it just gave the Tories the possibility to regroup and affirm their loyalty. Corbyn doing it in 2019 was quite spellbindingly, boneheadly stupid, because it did exactly that.

But this is different. If nearly half the Tory MPs are now on record as saying they want Johnson gone, this is the way, as you say Filo, of asking them to put their balls on the table.

No lose for Labour. If he goes, they can say that it was Labour that took the initiative to get rid of him. If he doesn't, they can name the MPs who kept him in power on every constituency billboard in 2024.

[danumdon]

The writing should of been on the wall for this incompetent even before the partygate fiasco, the fact that he tries to brazen it out even now whilst his kingdom comes tumbling down around him shows the sheer brass neck of this man. Like BST says he needs to be seen to be properly humiliated and discarded as he has totally messed up any recovery this country is attempting to perform.


The trouble with him and others like him, because don't be fooled parliament is stuffed full of entitled and disrespectful professional MPS with their snout deeply embedded in the trough, is that we get rid of one cohort but don't worry another lot will be along very soon.

This country needs a proper reset, mps like Johnson and his ilk on both sides of the house(this is not just a tory thing) need some sort of proper code of conduct, a history and experience of managing and being successful in business and with people skills that go further than cranking jokes and "having some sort of personality" it needs to be properly vetted, no fresh faced impressionable, indoctrinated PSE graduates fresh from uni with absolutely no idea or life experiences never mind running a country. I'd want to see some sober level headed individuals who can be paid a much larger salary but will be worth the outlay, If i see another twenty something pratt knocking on my door with his head full of indoctrinated hogwash who knows nothing about how normal people live their lives and strive to get on there's a good possibility he leaves with less teeth then he came with.

We need our politicians to be competent, honest, have integrity and are in it for the right reasons, not to fill their pockets and sponge as much as they can from the expenses system.

Let the search commence, its going to take some time draining this swamp.



 

[SydneyRover]

and another

''Jo Churchill resigns as environment minister, criticising Johnson’s 'jocular, self-serving' approach to leadership''

[SydneyRover]

''The Telegraph’s Camilla Tominey witnessed this in PMQs earlier.

In response to the suggestion from the PM that he has “a plan”, Tory backbencher Alex Shelbrooke has just mouthed “b*llocks” and performed a throat cutting gesture …#PMQs

— Camilla Tominey (@CamillaTominey) July 6, 2022''

Guardian

[SydneyRover]

and another ............ Starmer called them 'sinking ships deserting the rat' in PMQs

''Stuart Andrew resigns as housing minister, saying Tories should not have to 'defend the indefensible'
Stuart Andrew has resigned as housing minister, saying Tories should not have to “defend the indefensible”.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Reporter on BBC News says he understands that Gove is going to lead a delegation to No.10 to tell Boris his time is up. (Gove was noticably missing at PMQs).

It's one thing backbenchers telling Boris this, it's much more serious for a member of his own Cabinet to do so.

Presumably if Boris still refuses to go. Gove will have no alternative but to resign as well.

[BillyStubbsTears]

21 ministers and 7 previously loyal backbenchers now publicly come out against Johnson.

I reckon another 4 and that will be a majority publicly against him.

Rumour is that the 1922 Committee are thinking of changing their rules to allow an immediate VONC even before the more vociferous Johnson critics get elected to their executive.

I'd put money on him being out by the end of next week. Possibly even by today.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Another five ministers gone in one resignation letter.

Edit: and another one gone as I was writing that!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Another 5 ministers just gone. That's him done for.

I think he'll resign today.

[Ldr]

He’s lost the dressing room

[Glyn_Wigley]

We must surely be nearly at the point where no MP will take any of the jobs now vacant..?

[Glyn_Wigley]

Liam Fox also reportedly heading to tell Boris to bugger off.

[drfchound]

We must surely be nearly at the point where no MP will take any of the jobs now vacant..?

That is what needs to happen.

[drfchound]

Rumour is that the 1922 Committee are thinking of changing their rules to allow an immediate VONC even before the more vociferous Johnson critics get elected to their executive.

Probably the worst kept secret in politics.

[wilts rover]

We must surely be nearly at the point where no MP will take any of the jobs now vacant..?

Apparently been told this by the Chief Whip - there aren't enough MP's willing to fill the empty posts.

Huw Merriman just posted a letter of no confidence. Which is not particularly remarkable until you know he is the chair of the Transport Committee and was in the Liason Committee waiting to ask Johnson questions at the time.

[wilts rover]

Reports on the radio that when he leaves the Liason Committee he will be met by a delegation of the Chief Whip and various Cabinet Ministers (already waiting for him in Downing Street) telling him to go.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Monday: PM appoints new Chancellor.

Tuesday: Chancellor tells PM to resign.

What an utter shit show.