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Interesting 2nd line from an analyst pov https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60000391
Quote from: Ldr on January 17, 2022, 03:12:00 pmInteresting 2nd line from an analyst pov https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60000391Even more interesting is how certain ppl on this thread are usually all over anything to do with death numbers yet not a single comment on this
Quote from: Ldr on January 18, 2022, 09:11:59 amQuote from: Ldr on January 17, 2022, 03:12:00 pmInteresting 2nd line from an analyst pov https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60000391Even more interesting is how certain ppl on this thread are usually all over anything to do with death numbers yet not a single comment on thisIs this the same link NR posted Ldr?« Reply #15843 on January 15, 2022,
Covid running through half of my junior football team, only a couple of them vaccinated, all of them shook it off within a couple of days. A few parents too but again, shook it off within four days.Why do these kids need the vax?
VAIDS!
Quote from: normal rules on January 18, 2022, 08:43:10 amWith the news today that Morrisons have joined IKEA, Ocado and Next in cutting sick pay for those that are unvax and have to isolate, it got me thinking. Who is going to declare coming into contact with anyone with covid working for these companies knowing that they are going to be financially penalised.? Surely this stance is going to encourage further non compliance and the risk that this entails.I agree. These companies will have brought it on themselves if this is the case.Some could argue that those who have made a free choice to not get a medical intervention that is still under licence for emergency use only have brought it on themselves by not taking the jab. However, these companies are clearly discriminating against people on the basis of their medical status and this cannot be legal. Amazing how these companies weren't bothered about their employees passing flu around the past X amount of years, even though flu can keep staff of work too. One rule for Covid. Another for flu.
With the news today that Morrisons have joined IKEA, Ocado and Next in cutting sick pay for those that are unvax and have to isolate, it got me thinking. Who is going to declare coming into contact with anyone with covid working for these companies knowing that they are going to be financially penalised.? Surely this stance is going to encourage further non compliance and the risk that this entails.
Quote from: Nudga on January 18, 2022, 09:44:15 amCovid running through half of my junior football team, only a couple of them vaccinated, all of them shook it off within a couple of days. A few parents too but again, shook it off within four days.Why do these kids need the vax?The risks of the jab outweigh any potential health benefits for healthy 12 - 15 year olds. This is also according to the JCVI who refused to recommend the vaccine for this age group on that basis. Yet parents are giving their kids the vaccine. Their choice of course but what i find staggering is the lack of ability that many parents have to be able calculate perceived levels of risk. For example, their healthy 12 - 15 year old is at pretty much zero risk of dying, getting seriously ill or even developing persistent after effects of getting the actual virus so there is simply no requirement for any medical intervention. Even if that intervention had been around for 20 years and it was 100% safe and effective. Yet many parents have still decided to get their children vaccinated when the long term data on the safety of the vaccine is not yet available, when there is no risk from the actual disease itself. I find it truly bizarre that parents are simply prepared to gamble with their kids health like this. As i said on another post, some of my kids friends parents have just got their kids jabbed to go on foreign holidays. I'd rather go to Skeggy every year from now on rather than potentially cause my child a lifetime of health problems brought on by the vaccine just so i can go to Spain. Now i read that boosters are available for 16 year olds! So they will have 3 jabs within about 7 months for a virus that they can still spread and that they don't get ill from. I feel like i'm living in a madhouse here. Nobody knows, not even the scientists what the long term effects will be of pumping young people full of Covid jabs in such a short period of time. I heard of one scientist recently speak of the concerns that doing this can actually harm the natural immune system, although obviously i have no evidence for this currently. Just conveying his concerns.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on January 18, 2022, 10:43:10 amQuote from: Nudga on January 18, 2022, 09:44:15 amCovid running through half of my junior football team, only a couple of them vaccinated, all of them shook it off within a couple of days. A few parents too but again, shook it off within four days.Why do these kids need the vax?The risks of the jab outweigh any potential health benefits for healthy 12 - 15 year olds. This is also according to the JCVI who refused to recommend the vaccine for this age group on that basis. Yet parents are giving their kids the vaccine. Their choice of course but what i find staggering is the lack of ability that many parents have to be able calculate perceived levels of risk. For example, their healthy 12 - 15 year old is at pretty much zero risk of dying, getting seriously ill or even developing persistent after effects of getting the actual virus so there is simply no requirement for any medical intervention. Even if that intervention had been around for 20 years and it was 100% safe and effective. Yet many parents have still decided to get their children vaccinated when the long term data on the safety of the vaccine is not yet available, when there is no risk from the actual disease itself. I find it truly bizarre that parents are simply prepared to gamble with their kids health like this. As i said on another post, some of my kids friends parents have just got their kids jabbed to go on foreign holidays. I'd rather go to Skeggy every year from now on rather than potentially cause my child a lifetime of health problems brought on by the vaccine just so i can go to Spain. Now i read that boosters are available for 16 year olds! So they will have 3 jabs within about 7 months for a virus that they can still spread and that they don't get ill from. I feel like i'm living in a madhouse here. Nobody knows, not even the scientists what the long term effects will be of pumping young people full of Covid jabs in such a short period of time. I heard of one scientist recently speak of the concerns that doing this can actually harm the natural immune system, although obviously i have no evidence for this currently. Just conveying his concerns. CDH you said in prebious posts you can't go abroad so why knock those who want to?
I asked my dad about the mmr jab that myself and brother had, ooo about 50 or so yrs ago. I asked him what the thought process around that time was. He said it was just seen as the responsible thing to do as parents at the time.And still is.The only way to eliminate Measles in by vaccination. There is no treatment for it . In 2017 the WHO declared that the UK was Measles free. With quite literally one or two cases by exception, that remains the case. That’s down to parents getting their kids jabbed.I see covid as being no different. We cannot have a safe adult population whilst there are kids running around all over passing it to all and sundry.
I feel perfectly safe being around 15 kids 3 times a week
Quote from: Nudga on January 18, 2022, 02:39:41 pmI feel perfectly safe being around 15 kids 3 times a week Tell me you don’t have siblings called Charles, Anne and Edward Nudga?
Regardless, the idea of destroying kids lives to protect adults - as we have been doing for the last 2 years is a despicable one and a selfish one.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on January 18, 2022, 02:58:38 pmRegardless, the idea of destroying kids lives to protect adults - as we have been doing for the last 2 years is a despicable one and a selfish one. How many kids lives have been destroyed so far CDH...?
Presumably because it was the responsibility of the deceased to protect themselves?
How many kids' parents and grandparents have been taken away from them years before their time.Fascinating how those professing to be really concerned about kids' mental health don't seem to give a f**k about them. Presumably because it was the responsibility of the deceased to protect themselves?
94k cases today and 438 deaths.... bit of a catch-up on deaths I think