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Quote from: selby on July 18, 2018, 10:30:39 am Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal. I think he did in three consecutive seasons.Nail. On. Head.
Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal. I think he did in three consecutive seasons.
Quote from: silent majority on July 18, 2018, 01:11:39 pmQuote from: selby on July 18, 2018, 10:30:39 am Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal. I think he did in three consecutive seasons.Nail. On. Head.If DF was that bad then why did the board plan for him to remain in his position?And what about McCann's track record suggests he's going to be any better?
Quote from: Lifelong supporter on July 18, 2018, 01:19:43 pmQuote from: silent majority on July 18, 2018, 01:11:39 pmQuote from: selby on July 18, 2018, 10:30:39 am Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal. I think he did in three consecutive seasons.Nail. On. Head.Yes, he really underperformed when we won promotion didn't he?Towards the end of the season most definitely.Last season, (all of it) most definitely.
Quote from: silent majority on July 18, 2018, 01:11:39 pmQuote from: selby on July 18, 2018, 10:30:39 am Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal. I think he did in three consecutive seasons.Nail. On. Head.Yes, he really underperformed when we won promotion didn't he?
Quote from: silent majority on July 18, 2018, 01:22:10 pmQuote from: Lifelong supporter on July 18, 2018, 01:19:43 pmQuote from: silent majority on July 18, 2018, 01:11:39 pmQuote from: selby on July 18, 2018, 10:30:39 am Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal. I think he did in three consecutive seasons.Nail. On. Head.Yes, he really underperformed when we won promotion didn't he?Towards the end of the season most definitely.Last season, (all of it) most definitely.Yet Gavin came out and said how pleased they were with last season and the progress we’ve made.
Quote from: Akinfenwa on July 18, 2018, 01:34:48 pmQuote from: silent majority on July 18, 2018, 01:11:39 pmQuote from: selby on July 18, 2018, 10:30:39 am Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal. I think he did in three consecutive seasons.Nail. On. Head.If DF was that bad then why did the board plan for him to remain in his position?And what about McCann's track record suggests he's going to be any better?Its a personal opinion. A typical example of why I'm not allowed to express myself, and try hard not to, on this message board.
Quote from: silent majority on July 18, 2018, 01:36:05 pmQuote from: Akinfenwa on July 18, 2018, 01:34:48 pmQuote from: silent majority on July 18, 2018, 01:11:39 pmQuote from: selby on July 18, 2018, 10:30:39 am Since 1969, have you considered that it was our manager that underperformed with the players at his disposal. I think he did in three consecutive seasons.Nail. On. Head.If DF was that bad then why did the board plan for him to remain in his position?And what about McCann's track record suggests he's going to be any better?Its a personal opinion. A typical example of why I'm not allowed to express myself, and try hard not to, on this message board.Well said SM. I sympathise with you - you're in an impossible position on here. We can all throw opinions around, some of which are complete b******s (in my opinion!) but every word you utter is taken to be an official statement by the Club and is jumped upon and picked apart.Maybe you'll have to put IMHO after every post which expresses your personal view!
If we have a budget (as has been pointed out this has been factually confirmed in EFL filings) that is in top 7 then damn right we should be expecting whoever is manager to be pushing for playoffs!
The first season he oversaw the worst change in fortune I have seen at this club. his change of tactics, his change of our attacking personal and his continual ignoring of certain players at his disposal cost us relegation. In his second season he blew a championship season in the last seven games, when persisting with picking the player on loan from Everton, Mason, and Alcock who were all completely out of form, and in Alcock's case not even match fit, and his substitutions at Hartlepool when all we needed a result, not only changed 3 players, but went through a load of positional changes completely losing our shape. And again had it in publicly with certain players who were ignored. Last season leaving players out again, being reluctant to play Baudry when available, playing players in positions they struggle with, man management, persisting with a goalkeeper 6 ft 4ins who did not come off his line, costing us points. He was a great club organiser, shook the system up on the playing side from top to bottom, made many improvements at the club behind the scenes, as a team manager it is my opinion only of course, but I think he was pretty average, as a man manager again average. Of course some would respond to him, but having talked to a couple of parents of some of our younger players, he could be soul destroying, and not the person he portrayed publicly lets say. He had had his time here, I thank him for a promotion, for his determination to shake the club up in the background, but we should not have had to come back from relegation, and his resignation came when for the first time in three seasons he felt slighted by the board with regard to finance, the tail cannot be seen to shake the dog, so time to go. The question that should be asked about the budget is, did we give him too much money for the return from his efforts compared to managers at say Rochdale, Shrewsbury, Exeter, Accrington in the time he was here? and was it a sign of petulance or even resignation he could not work without being able to splash the cash?
Quote from: selby on July 19, 2018, 10:01:10 am The first season he oversaw the worst change in fortune I have seen at this club. his change of tactics, his change of our attacking personal and his continual ignoring of certain players at his disposal cost us relegation. In his second season he blew a championship season in the last seven games, when persisting with picking the player on loan from Everton, Mason, and Alcock who were all completely out of form, and in Alcock's case not even match fit, and his substitutions at Hartlepool when all we needed a result, not only changed 3 players, but went through a load of positional changes completely losing our shape. And again had it in publicly with certain players who were ignored. Last season leaving players out again, being reluctant to play Baudry when available, playing players in positions they struggle with, man management, persisting with a goalkeeper 6 ft 4ins who did not come off his line, costing us points. He was a great club organiser, shook the system up on the playing side from top to bottom, made many improvements at the club behind the scenes, as a team manager it is my opinion only of course, but I think he was pretty average, as a man manager again average. Of course some would respond to him, but having talked to a couple of parents of some of our younger players, he could be soul destroying, and not the person he portrayed publicly lets say. He had had his time here, I thank him for a promotion, for his determination to shake the club up in the background, but we should not have had to come back from relegation, and his resignation came when for the first time in three seasons he felt slighted by the board with regard to finance, the tail cannot be seen to shake the dog, so time to go. The question that should be asked about the budget is, did we give him too much money for the return from his efforts compared to managers at say Rochdale, Shrewsbury, Exeter, Accrington in the time he was here? and was it a sign of petulance or even resignation he could not work without being able to splash the cash?He oversaw two massive changes in fortune in his first season, as he took a side in the relegation zone upto the top 10 and then he took them from the top 10 back to the relegation zone.
10 pages on what we think of McCann's new players and all he's signed is 1 on loan and 1 permanent, with 1 on an extended trial. To say this thread has gone completely off track is an understatement!We could have covered the topic in question on 1 page, because, as we are presently, there's nothing much to discuss. God help us if we actually do sign a quality player or two (here's hoping).
One things for sure if marquis does get sold they won’t free much up for McCann to spend on the squad