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Title: The Toe is back...
Post by: The Red Baron on August 08, 2016, 03:44:48 pm
... in training. But Fergie wants him to find a new club.

http://m.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/doncaster-rovers-dany-n-guessan-returns-to-training-as-darren-ferguson-plots-forward-s-exit-1-8057151
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: jonnydog on August 08, 2016, 05:21:37 pm
I'd give him a go, it might be good to have the numbers during the injury era.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: RedJ on August 08, 2016, 05:24:22 pm
What, in the treatment room?
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: the vicar on August 08, 2016, 05:49:03 pm
the size of him will terrorise the league 2 players for the one game he would play but if he did play he would get injured and no one would want him
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Northants Nomad on August 08, 2016, 07:29:04 pm
No no no. The risk of playing him? No!!! He's just got fit. While he's fit, ship him out. Don't risk playing him. Not with the combination of his glass toe and our injury hoodoo.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: the vicar on August 08, 2016, 07:38:38 pm
that is what i was saying
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on August 09, 2016, 12:12:15 am
If he is fit, why not give him an opportunity from the bench. An experienced guy, injury has got him in this situation, he hasn't got there by playing badly, we have barely seen him, give him a chance, nothing to lose.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: wing commander on August 09, 2016, 09:42:58 am
  Your presuming somebody will want to sign him....I'm not sure how you go about doing that with the amount of players available out there and with his recent record...I wouldn't pay him off though,keep him in the fold and see if he surprises us...
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Danmckay456 on August 09, 2016, 10:32:13 am
I can see him being loaned out , Ferguson is obviously in the market for another striker and you have to think he will be at least 5 choice if we bring someone In .
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: wing commander on August 09, 2016, 11:47:22 am
   it sounds easy that but with only long term loans this season,who is going to waste one on a player with his recent record over the last few seasons,i certainly wouldnt...?? Also would he actually want to go?? I suspect he's on wind down...lol..He admitted before he joined he had fallen out of love with the game and we haven't seen a thing to suggest he's recovered the love for it again...
  I would let him train,try and get fit and play him in the crazy group stages..You never know he might score a couple and turn it around,theres no question he has the talent..
   
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Danmckay456 on August 09, 2016, 12:42:30 pm
Fair point , yeah play him in the 2nd round of the league cup when we turn forest over 😜😜
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on August 10, 2016, 12:01:04 am
Other teams are more likely to be interested, if he is playing at least a few minutes here and there, then if you are lucky you might be able to use him to bring a player in, with him going the other way.
Otherwise, they will have to pay him off, because nobody wants a constantly injured player, as it is now, the only moves he might get are non league, or maybe a stint in india, like hume did.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: The Red Baron on August 23, 2016, 07:11:38 pm
http://m.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/doncaster-rovers-darren-ferguson-hoping-for-positive-news-as-dany-n-guessan-trains-with-southend-united-1-8084643

Let's hope The Toe did well for Southend. They seem to have a liking for former Rovers strikers as they are having a look at Theo as well.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: andyst79 on August 23, 2016, 08:06:40 pm
What was actually wrong with his toe was it broken?
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: The Red Baron on August 23, 2016, 08:40:24 pm
I don't think it was broken, just painful.

Though it is worth pointing out that both Martin Guptill and (***ing Hell It's) Fred Titmus had decent cricket careers despite the loss of several toes.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 23, 2016, 09:01:24 pm
I believe after a bad injury and poor medical care at a previous club he got an infection in it and has had to have that cut away
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on August 23, 2016, 10:24:08 pm
I believe after a bad injury and poor medical care at a previous club he got an infection in it and has had to have that cut away

Barbary! I hope we sent the maggots in  :mad:
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on August 24, 2016, 12:38:53 am
A toe injury sounds trivial just like it did when david haye lost to klitschko. But in professional sport everything has to be in near perfect condition because of the strain they put on every part of the body.
It very rarely get's mentioned that players have had bad treatment at clubs. Most supporters assume they get the best of everything, but it isn't always the case.

Players we sometimes wonder why they don't have the love of playing that we think we would. It's because they are treated at times as expendable commodities, once they lose their use to the club then they are pushed to the side.
We supporters have a 'romantasized' idea of football. I think if we were involved with clubs it might just put us off the game just a touch.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: GazLaz on August 24, 2016, 10:58:09 am
A toe injury sounds trivial just like it did when david haye lost to klitschko. But in professional sport everything has to be in near perfect condition because of the strain they put on every part of the body.
It very rarely get's mentioned that players have had bad treatment at clubs. Most supporters assume they get the best of everything, but it isn't always the case.

Players we sometimes wonder why they don't have the love of playing that we think we would. It's because they are treated at times as expendable commodities, once they lose their use to the club then they are pushed to the side.
We supporters have a 'romantasized' idea of football. I think if we were involved with clubs it might just put us off the game just a touch.

David Haye used it as an excuse though! Dany was really injured.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: RoversAlias on August 24, 2016, 12:10:58 pm
Yeah, and I reckon N'Guessan could knock Haye out as well.

You know, if both had all their toes in working order.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: graingrover on August 24, 2016, 02:06:34 pm
Nice sentiments expressed on here .. lovely people !
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on August 25, 2016, 12:13:48 am
A toe injury sounds trivial just like it did when david haye lost to klitschko. But in professional sport everything has to be in near perfect condition because of the strain they put on every part of the body.
It very rarely get's mentioned that players have had bad treatment at clubs. Most supporters assume they get the best of everything, but it isn't always the case.

Players we sometimes wonder why they don't have the love of playing that we think we would. It's because they are treated at times as expendable commodities, once they lose their use to the club then they are pushed to the side.
We supporters have a 'romantasized' idea of football. I think if we were involved with clubs it might just put us off the game just a touch.

David Haye used it as an excuse though! Dany was really injured.

It seemed that way didn't it?. Personally i think as a fighter he needed to just congratulate the guy who beat him, and not bother mentioning it.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: wing commander on August 26, 2016, 09:44:56 am
   Sent back from his trial at Southend and now back training with Rovers..looks like we are stuck with him then..Not a shock really,with the amount of players available who wants one with half a toe and who hasn't played for yonks...

    That said DF needs to stop being so stubborn...We haven't got the biggest squad so if he's fit play him in that crap pointless competition so we don't pick up injuries and who knows,he may surprise us..
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: One_Matty_Lucas on August 26, 2016, 09:49:40 am
   Sent back from his trial at Southend and now back training with Rovers..looks like we are stuck with him then..Not a shock really,with the amount of players available who wants one with half a toe and who hasn't played for yonks...

    That said DF needs to stop being so stubborn...We haven't got the biggest squad so if he's fit play him in that crap pointless competition so we don't pick up injuries and who knows,he may surprise us..

I agree on the point with Ferguson, he is essentially leaving Dany no way back in. Whilst we are paying his wages he should be in contention for the squad.

Must have had a fall out.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Retdon1 on August 26, 2016, 09:49:48 am
If he's going to be here and he's fit then we might as well give him a go.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: darren61 on August 26, 2016, 10:10:06 am
We are paying his wages so make him play, if he is going to see out his contract with us at least make him work for some of it.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: GazLaz on August 26, 2016, 10:29:54 am
   Sent back from his trial at Southend and now back training with Rovers..looks like we are stuck with him then..Not a shock really,with the amount of players available who wants one with half a toe and who hasn't played for yonks...

    That said DF needs to stop being so stubborn...We haven't got the biggest squad so if he's fit play him in that crap pointless competition so we don't pick up injuries and who knows,he may surprise us..

I agree on the point with Ferguson, he is essentially leaving Dany no way back in. Whilst we are paying his wages he should be in contention for the squad.

Must have had a fall out.

The club aren't happy he signed when he knew he was injured and didn't declare it.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: wing commander on August 26, 2016, 10:48:17 am
Gaz surely there is a part of the contract were he has to declare any problems?? I can only presume wether they are happy or not if they could have wriggled out of it they would..

   I've often wondered wether a contract is just to play football or a employment contract for Doncaster Rovers...Get him mowing the grass..lol
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 26, 2016, 11:03:42 am
...Get him mowing the grass..lol

Can't see that being a success, he'd hardly cover every blade if his playing performances were owt to go by.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: NickDRFC on August 26, 2016, 11:19:20 am
Gaz surely there is a part of the contract were he has to declare any problems?? I can only presume wether they are happy or not if they could have wriggled out of it they would..

   I've often wondered wether a contract is just to play football or a employment contract for Doncaster Rovers...Get him mowing the grass..lol

It's not like we have a great track record in terms of signing favourable contracts *cough* Curtis Main *splutter* advertising in the Frenchgate.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: steve@dcfd on August 26, 2016, 03:21:38 pm
If he is still here on the 1st of September and we don't pay him off, then make sure he is fit like all our other players and stick him on the bench. He can play in the Checkatrade cup.
It may be DF can't bring in another striker while he is here the 1st September will show that.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Danmckay456 on August 26, 2016, 04:45:23 pm
No wonder Dickov got the chop , Keegan a 3 year deal and n'guessan a two year deal absolute shocking piece of business
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: The Red Baron on August 26, 2016, 06:14:24 pm
If he is still here on the 1st of September and we don't pay him off, then make sure he is fit like all our other players and stick him on the bench. He can play in the Checkatrade cup.
It may be DF can't bring in another striker while he is here the 1st September will show that.

Agree with that. If we can't move him on, permanently or on loan, by the time the window closes he should be treated as a squad member.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: GazLaz on August 26, 2016, 11:26:06 pm
No wonder Dickov got the chop , Keegan a 3 year deal and n'guessan a two year deal absolute shocking piece of business

It's easy to say that now.
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Danmckay456 on August 26, 2016, 11:27:15 pm
Hardly been headhunted for jobs lately 👍👍
Title: Re: The Toe is back...
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on August 27, 2016, 12:39:32 am
He was a cheap signing who he took a chance on. He was a free transfer he isn't the first one that ended up injury prone, and won't be the last.
It just hasn't worked out for him, unless he get's a chance and proves he is capable of staying with us.