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Why is it ok to have US forces in Europe but as soon as Russia stands up for itself they are war mongers?I think the West has more blood on it's hands since the end of WW2 than Russia. The serial invaders need to have a look at themselves before criticizing others.Vietnam, Grenada, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on February 15, 2022, 01:05:36 pmWhy is it ok to have US forces in Europe but as soon as Russia stands up for itself they are war mongers?I think the West has more blood on it's hands since the end of WW2 than Russia. The serial invaders need to have a look at themselves before criticizing others.Vietnam, Grenada, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and that's just the tip of the iceberg.Versus Ukraine, Georgia, Syria, Afghanistan etc......It's all well and good saying that Russia shouldn't have been engaged, but had they not been they undoubtedly would have invaded Ukraine.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on February 15, 2022, 01:13:53 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 15, 2022, 01:05:36 pmWhy is it ok to have US forces in Europe but as soon as Russia stands up for itself they are war mongers?I think the West has more blood on it's hands since the end of WW2 than Russia. The serial invaders need to have a look at themselves before criticizing others.Vietnam, Grenada, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and that's just the tip of the iceberg.Versus Ukraine, Georgia, Syria, Afghanistan etc......It's all well and good saying that Russia shouldn't have been engaged, but had they not been they undoubtedly would have invaded Ukraine.Not to mention the biggest war crime of the past 50 years. Chechnya.This is what Russia did to Grozny.That's not a picture from WWI. That's from the very end of the 1990s, on the edge of Europe.The West has done some horrific things this past 50 years but nothing comes close to what Russia has done in Grozny and Aleppo. Bestial.
Like I said AL. You would have supported the Final Solution if you were 75 years older. You are truly disgusting.
This situation would not have occurred if Trump was still in office.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on February 15, 2022, 03:25:25 pmThis situation would not have occurred if Trump was still in office. The Trump who got elected into the White House on the back of Russian oligarch money? What do you think he would have done differently other than waved Putin in?
Quote from: wilts rover on February 15, 2022, 04:05:26 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 15, 2022, 03:25:25 pmThis situation would not have occurred if Trump was still in office. The Trump who got elected into the White House on the back of Russian oligarch money? What do you think he would have done differently other than waved Putin in?Which would have solved the problem and we can all get on with our lives in peace.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on February 16, 2022, 08:12:55 amQuote from: wilts rover on February 15, 2022, 04:05:26 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 15, 2022, 03:25:25 pmThis situation would not have occurred if Trump was still in office. The Trump who got elected into the White House on the back of Russian oligarch money? What do you think he would have done differently other than waved Putin in?Which would have solved the problem and we can all get on with our lives in peace.At least until he turned his attention to the Baltic's.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 15, 2022, 01:53:50 pmLike I said AL. You would have supported the Final Solution if you were 75 years older. You are truly disgusting.So you would have supported the Chechen Jihadis in their atrocities then? There can be no soft touch in dealing with animals like them. Go in fast and hard to eliminate the problem.https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/hostage-crisis-in-moscow-theaterThis is the scum they were dealing with. Just because the West has no backbone because they are to busy fretting over personal pro nouns don't have a go at a country with the balls to get the job done.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on February 16, 2022, 08:12:55 amQuote from: wilts rover on February 15, 2022, 04:05:26 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 15, 2022, 03:25:25 pmThis situation would not have occurred if Trump was still in office. The Trump who got elected into the White House on the back of Russian oligarch money? What do you think he would have done differently other than waved Putin in?Which would have solved the problem and we can all get on with our lives in peace.Except for the people defending their country, of course. But they don't count it seems.I'd never have expected a Millwall supporter to kowtow to a bully.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on February 15, 2022, 02:15:22 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 15, 2022, 01:53:50 pmLike I said AL. You would have supported the Final Solution if you were 75 years older. You are truly disgusting.So you would have supported the Chechen Jihadis in their atrocities then? There can be no soft touch in dealing with animals like them. Go in fast and hard to eliminate the problem.https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/hostage-crisis-in-moscow-theaterThis is the scum they were dealing with. Just because the West has no backbone because they are to busy fretting over personal pro nouns don't have a go at a country with the balls to get the job done.I know all about that scho siege and it was horrific. But you don't respond to that by carpet bombing a city out of existence, killing 100,000 civilians and destroying the homes of half a million more. Unless you are sub-human.
Quote from: River Don on February 16, 2022, 09:36:15 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 16, 2022, 08:12:55 amQuote from: wilts rover on February 15, 2022, 04:05:26 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 15, 2022, 03:25:25 pmThis situation would not have occurred if Trump was still in office. The Trump who got elected into the White House on the back of Russian oligarch money? What do you think he would have done differently other than waved Putin in?Which would have solved the problem and we can all get on with our lives in peace.At least until he turned his attention to the Baltic's.Which should be the same outcome.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on February 16, 2022, 11:39:59 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 16, 2022, 08:12:55 amQuote from: wilts rover on February 15, 2022, 04:05:26 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 15, 2022, 03:25:25 pmThis situation would not have occurred if Trump was still in office. The Trump who got elected into the White House on the back of Russian oligarch money? What do you think he would have done differently other than waved Putin in?Which would have solved the problem and we can all get on with our lives in peace.Except for the people defending their country, of course. But they don't count it seems.I'd never have expected a Millwall supporter to kowtow to a bully.What's it got to do with us? it's not our sphere of influence and security. RUSSIA DOES NOT WANT TO INVADE THE WEST! They just want their own patch to be secure without encroachment from the liberalist pollution of the western world.
The Ukrainians are kinsfolk to the Russians. It's not our domain and we should not interfere. When will we ever learn busy bodying in the affairs of others?