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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42249854This is quite simply beyond belief. We’re more than half way through the most important national negotiation since WWII and the Govt hasn’t conducted an assessment of the consequences of different outcomes?How in God’s name do you negotiate if you don’t know the possible outcomes?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 06, 2017, 11:40:47 amhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42249854This is quite simply beyond belief. We’re more than half way through the most important national negotiation since WWII and the Govt hasn’t conducted an assessment of the consequences of different outcomes?How in God’s name do you negotiate if you don’t know the possible outcomes?Even more pertinent as far as I'm concerned is why didn't he say this in the first place when Parliament asked for the data, and why has it then had to be dragged out of him in Committee.
1) Davis is telling the truth - they haven't had the assessments done because they don't want to hear what they would say.[1]2) Davis is lying. They HAVE had the assessments done and they don't want YOU to know what they say.
All comedy aside, a serious question, why are we putting up with this shit?
Quote from: hoolahoop on December 06, 2017, 12:57:05 amQuote from: RedJ on December 05, 2017, 09:10:48 amQuote from: hoolahoop on December 05, 2017, 05:57:04 amMy guess is we will ALL end up in the CU with regulatory divergenceStill living in blind hope that we'll just say f**k it and give it up as a bad job.You too as well Red J - great to see you have come round to the idea. I've always been against the entire thing.
Quote from: RedJ on December 05, 2017, 09:10:48 amQuote from: hoolahoop on December 05, 2017, 05:57:04 amMy guess is we will ALL end up in the CU with regulatory divergenceStill living in blind hope that we'll just say f**k it and give it up as a bad job.You too as well Red J - great to see you have come round to the idea.
Quote from: hoolahoop on December 05, 2017, 05:57:04 amMy guess is we will ALL end up in the CU with regulatory divergenceStill living in blind hope that we'll just say f**k it and give it up as a bad job.
My guess is we will ALL end up in the CU with regulatory divergence
However Sydney this begs the question where is the Opposition in all this .....seemingly in as much disarray. Does the population of this country care anymore about their future declining living standards, their jobs or even their ability to travel and work freely ?Why are the opponents NOT getting together and making their voices heard ? Why are they not marching on the capital as they would in every other country given the decisions taken on their behalf ? Where the feck is Momentum and the Labour movement in all this ? They boast of a young and politically aware group but even they aren't stirring !Wtf is wrong with our people ...........?
And just when Brexit appears to be in increasing difficult, along comes a Eurocrat to give it a helping hand.https://mobile.twitter.com/MartinSchulz/status/938748811375271936?p=vNo UK Government could ratify a constitution for a "United States of Europe." It would be electoral suicide. So in effect we'd be expelled from the club. Not that I think we'd be on our own.
He's a FORMER President of the EU and is pressing ( in his dreams ) to be the leader in Germany. I can see no reason at all why his words would be " meat and drink for Brexiters " . A ' United States of Europe ' is certainly not the dream of most EU citizens - like I said he is to be ignored and treated as a fool.
Quote from: hoolahoop on December 08, 2017, 06:34:45 amHe's a FORMER President of the EU and is pressing ( in his dreams ) to be the leader in Germany. I can see no reason at all why his words would be " meat and drink for Brexiters " . A ' United States of Europe ' is certainly not the dream of most EU citizens - like I said he is to be ignored and treated as a fool. I'd agree it isn't a dream of most citizens. But it is of most Eurocrats. And the history of the EU over the last quarter century has been a concentration of power in the centre. Had anything happened to reverse that trend, we may not have ended where we are now.
I see Sturgeon has piped up demanding the same for Scotland, and claiming if they left the UK there's no way we could tell them there'd be no hard border, totally ignoring the historical context of the Irish problem. God I hate that woman. Wilfully ignorant of anything that doesn't suit her sole cause.