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Quote from: dickos1 on January 25, 2022, 12:28:24 pmUsually agree with you gaz but experience was exactly what we needed in this windowWhat is experience?? I think we needed maturity. You don’t have to be 33yo to have that. Let’s be honest, he’s not fully fit but Agard looks like he can’t run and I saw Clayton at Birmingham, he’s the same. They may end up being great players in L2 but this isn’t the way we need to be going. It’s not what intelligent operators do. Obviously depends on what he’s earning, if he’s on £500 a week then it may be a low cost gamble. Why not give him 6 months to see what he has left? I could make you 20 players that would walk to the Keepmoat for a contract in the summer that would be smarter options than Agard and Clayton.
Usually agree with you gaz but experience was exactly what we needed in this window
We're only willing to shop in free transfers, so when it comes to January that leaves those without a club or where we can talk clubs into letting their player go. Hopefully Clayton will turn out decent, I personally would have gone with a 6 month deal and then pick up someone from another League Two team like Guy, McWilliams, Maris or Elliott Watt.
Not sure he is going to be fit for anything beyond a cameo appearance.
Quote from: dickos1 on January 25, 2022, 12:34:50 pmQuote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.It’s all about balance and people are never happy so the club can’t win. When we signed the likes of younger and olowu the response is we need experience then when we sign experience the response is it’s not very strategicI never said we needed experience when we signed Olowu and Younger. Don't think Gaz did either. I think they were two decent bits of business that will probably have upside if they both develop as players.I knew I'd get accused of moaning or being "never happy" - it's not that at all. This guy will probably be a tidy player for the next 6-12 months if he can get fit quickly. But I care about the club and am concerned in the mid to long term that we haven't learned any lessons from what's happened before. Short-term fixes, no resale value, short term contracts and/or contracts expiring in bulk, gambles on players who aren't physically up to speed, managers dictating the football strategy and everything being ripped up when the next manager comes along.I may well be proven wrong if the club starts doing deals like the Younger one that outweigh these ones (I hope so!). But out of the 4 signings this January, half of them have been in their 30's with patchy recent records of actually playing football, so forgive me for questioning it.That's what's got us into the state we're in now. If I'm a moaning f*cker for not wanting that to keep happening, so be it.
Quote from: pib on January 25, 2022, 12:31:54 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.It’s all about balance and people are never happy so the club can’t win. When we signed the likes of younger and olowu the response is we need experience then when we sign experience the response is it’s not very strategic
Quote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.No doubt you'll get pelters for this (and I may do as well for this response) but it does make you wonder what the thinking is when the season is pretty much a foregone conclusion.Not just that, but when you're trying to make the club sustainable, at 33, this is money you're not going to ever get back.He's a decent player like and hopefully will do a job, but it doesn't jump out as very strategic to me.
We’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.
Getting close to The Edge now.
How long will it be before someone says his legs have gone ?
I never said we needed experience when we signed Olowu and Younger. Don't think Gaz did either. I think they were two decent bits of business that will probably have upside if they both develop as players.I knew I'd get accused of moaning or being "never happy" - it's not that at all. This guy will probably be a tidy player for the next 6-12 months if he can get fit quickly. But I care about the club and am concerned in the mid to long term that we haven't learned any lessons from what's happened before. Short-term fixes, no resale value, short term contracts and/or contracts expiring in bulk, gambles on players who aren't physically up to speed, managers dictating the football strategy and everything being ripped up when the next manager comes along.I may well be proven wrong if the club starts doing deals like the Younger one that outweigh these ones (I hope so!). But out of the 4 signings this January, half of them have been in their 30's with patchy recent records of actually playing football, so forgive me for questioning it.That's what's got us into the state we're in now. If I'm a moaning f*cker for not wanting that to keep happening, so be it.
Quote from: GazLaz on January 25, 2022, 12:25:22 pmWe’ve signed two 32/33 year olds in one window. Both played a dozen games in 18months. Whatever the situation, you never need to do that.the younger ones could not do it, so experience could work
Bessie why does he need to build a league 2 side we’re staying up