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One of them annoying bowlers to face SM. Line and length, and because of his height gets that little bit of extra bounce. Bresnen is very underrated as a cricketer, both with bat and ball, and both very rarely have a bad game. I enjoyed every minute after the first hour, Ballance has been hung out to dry by the southern based commentators on TV, and should still be in and around the England side. We will need to get off to a better start against Hampshire in the semifinal however. I got that engrossed that I missed a badly placed short on my shares, an expensive but somehow enjoyable day, Ah well.
Neither are any of the batsmen picked in his place since. And they do not average 37 in test matches.
Weighing in here ( against my better judgement ) but I can see the merits of selecting Ballance again what is he 29/30 year old , left hander plus of course he bowls well enough if needed. He is just maturing and plainly has theability . Perhaps I'm a tad biased and think that England should pick everyone that's eligible and plays County cricket for Yorkshire. There's definitely a lot more in him yet and besides he is playing currently in a strong successful team , that in itself is a massivebonus. Averaging 55 in one day and 44 in County cricket should imho secure him a place to permanently " exclude " him from the England team would be a mistake. I realise that test cricket is that much tougher both mentally and of course because of the quality of opposition but there are loads of players who have failed to impress on their first spells with the 1st team and gone on to be top drawer players.As for Yorkshire , we need that win against Hampshire next week just to get above the Wa**ers over the hill and to start climbing up the league oh and plenty of bonus points would be nice.
Quote from: hoolahoop on June 16, 2018, 09:43:09 amWeighing in here ( against my better judgement ) but I can see the merits of selecting Ballance again what is he 29/30 year old , left hander plus of course he bowls well enough if needed. He is just maturing and plainly has theability . Perhaps I'm a tad biased and think that England should pick everyone that's eligible and plays County cricket for Yorkshire. There's definitely a lot more in him yet and besides he is playing currently in a strong successful team , that in itself is a massivebonus. Averaging 55 in one day and 44 in County cricket should imho secure him a place to permanently " exclude " him from the England team would be a mistake. I realise that test cricket is that much tougher both mentally and of course because of the quality of opposition but there are loads of players who have failed to impress on their first spells with the 1st team and gone on to be top drawer players.As for Yorkshire , we need that win against Hampshire next week just to get above the Wa**ers over the hill and to start climbing up the league oh and plenty of bonus points would be nice.There’s no comparison between test cricket and county cricket. It doesn’t prepare players in any way for the toughest tests. That’s a different debate though.
Nick he can bowl but not at test match level and I'm not mixing him up - he bowls leg break perhaps if he could develop as an all rounder it would make him more versatile . Currently we have a decent batsman and slip fielder As long as we get a 4th/5th place I too will be happy . The future of Yorkshire cricket looks good and as I said before as long as the white rose crushes the red one ...That's me happy.
Quote from: hoolahoop on June 16, 2018, 12:03:24 pmNick he can bowl but not at test match level and I'm not mixing him up - he bowls leg break perhaps if he could develop as an all rounder it would make him more versatile . Currently we have a decent batsman and slip fielder As long as we get a 4th/5th place I too will be happy . The future of Yorkshire cricket looks good and as I said before as long as the white rose crushes the red one ...That's me happy. Just looked up his record and still disagree that he can bowl, but perhaps you've seen something in the 25 odd wicketless overs he's bowled over his entire career to justify saying he can bowl a bit!
Amen to that Nick because England have players like Compton and Mallan.
Nick, a genuine question I would be interested to know your answer. How many times in your lifetime have England picked the best test squad available? Vaughan's was probably the last, and then they messed about with the stumper, and there were very few before, Illingworth having a war with the selectors as a manager and as captain, Close the same.
That will always be the " rub " when you have players selected for the national side. However as you said this always gives the more inexperienced players a chance to gain more experience ( that ok Nick - nothing contentious there before I crack on ? ) . Short term sometimes we suffer but in the medium/ long term we end up with player after player being called up for England. I remember too the Boycott era where we also had those selector/ player arguments . I think it's because we tend to call a spade a spade - Close and Boycott were definitely garrulous chips off the same block.