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Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 17, 2019, 09:33:38 amBpool.Yes, in fairness, you are correct that no criminal charges have been brought against Banks.This is the state of play with him.https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/journalist/electoral-commission-media-centre/party-and-election-finance-to-keep/arron-banks,-better-for-the-country-and-others-referred-to-the-national-crime-agency-for-multiple-suspected-offencesThat in itself is unprecedented. No one in our history has been referred to the police by the Electoral Commission for suspected criminal activity on that scale.The police have taken six months over this investigation so far. This is the latest update.https://mobile.twitter.com/Len_Duvall/status/1128296130830307328Might that be because we have never had such a bitter and twisted, sour-faced, bunch of bad losers that are determined to overturn a democratically voted result by any desperate means available?
Bpool.Yes, in fairness, you are correct that no criminal charges have been brought against Banks.This is the state of play with him.https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/journalist/electoral-commission-media-centre/party-and-election-finance-to-keep/arron-banks,-better-for-the-country-and-others-referred-to-the-national-crime-agency-for-multiple-suspected-offencesThat in itself is unprecedented. No one in our history has been referred to the police by the Electoral Commission for suspected criminal activity on that scale.The police have taken six months over this investigation so far. This is the latest update.https://mobile.twitter.com/Len_Duvall/status/1128296130830307328
SSWe were talking about the Electoral Commission. Are you expecting THEM to be upset next Thursday?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 17, 2019, 03:47:37 pmSSWe were talking about the Electoral Commission. Are you expecting THEM to be upset next Thursday?No Billy, we're talking about the whole of the Establishment.Let me explain what's happened over the last 3 years. In 2016, two events happened that weren't supposed to happen, and horrified the whole of the Liberalist Establishment of the Western world; Donald Trump and Brexit; and the aim of the Establishment ever since has been to destroy them both, in any way they can.Let me explain why these 2 things happened, along with the rise of Populist parties in Europe. When ordinary decent people feel that their concerns over crime, violence, terrorism, and immigration aren't being listened to by smug, arrogant, lazy liberalist politicians, they'll take revenge any way they can.And before you come back at me like a ton of bricks, let me tell you that the above isn't just my opinion, it's the opinion of every journalist and pundit, of all political persuasions, I've heard over the last few weeks.
Quote from: scawsby steve on May 17, 2019, 05:43:41 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 17, 2019, 03:47:37 pmSSWe were talking about the Electoral Commission. Are you expecting THEM to be upset next Thursday?No Billy, we're talking about the whole of the Establishment.Let me explain what's happened over the last 3 years. In 2016, two events happened that weren't supposed to happen, and horrified the whole of the Liberalist Establishment of the Western world; Donald Trump and Brexit; and the aim of the Establishment ever since has been to destroy them both, in any way they can.Let me explain why these 2 things happened, along with the rise of Populist parties in Europe. When ordinary decent people feel that their concerns over crime, violence, terrorism, and immigration aren't being listened to by smug, arrogant, lazy liberalist politicians, they'll take revenge any way they can.And before you come back at me like a ton of bricks, let me tell you that the above isn't just my opinion, it's the opinion of every journalist and pundit, of all political persuasions, I've heard over the last few weeks. Of course they did. It's called cutting off ones nose to spite ones face. It's the ordinary people who lose out through their own actions of taking revenge though; your so called Liberal Establishment will hardly be impacted at all.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on May 17, 2019, 07:19:40 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on May 17, 2019, 05:43:41 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 17, 2019, 03:47:37 pmSSWe were talking about the Electoral Commission. Are you expecting THEM to be upset next Thursday?No Billy, we're talking about the whole of the Establishment.Let me explain what's happened over the last 3 years. In 2016, two events happened that weren't supposed to happen, and horrified the whole of the Liberalist Establishment of the Western world; Donald Trump and Brexit; and the aim of the Establishment ever since has been to destroy them both, in any way they can.Let me explain why these 2 things happened, along with the rise of Populist parties in Europe. When ordinary decent people feel that their concerns over crime, violence, terrorism, and immigration aren't being listened to by smug, arrogant, lazy liberalist politicians, they'll take revenge any way they can.And before you come back at me like a ton of bricks, let me tell you that the above isn't just my opinion, it's the opinion of every journalist and pundit, of all political persuasions, I've heard over the last few weeks. Of course they did. It's called cutting off ones nose to spite ones face. It's the ordinary people who lose out through their own actions of taking revenge though; your so called Liberal Establishment will hardly be impacted at all.Hardly be impacted at all? Really? Have a look at how Labour and the Tories are doing in the polls.
Unsure here from your posts SS but am I correct in thinking you want a hard brexit and you support trump?
Hoola, It's far, far bigger than whether we are going to be better off inside or outside the EU. That's an entirely secondary issue.The big issue is whether we as a population really care about democracy.
I think you'll find that Brexiters think democracy is a system of elected representatives, not a union run by unelected bureaucrats.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 19, 2019, 01:53:48 pmI think you'll find that Brexiters think democracy is a system of elected representatives, not a union run by unelected bureaucrats.Yeah, p*ssed up unelected bureaucrats.To answer NNK, yes mate, we'll all be voting wisely on Thursday.
In the past 100 years, half of all Prime Ministers came into office ‘unelected’.Isn't a general election opportunity for people in every part of the UK to choose their MP, not a Prime Minister?
Of course, you can't have a vote for every issue. Most decisions have to be made by the government and civil servants in every democratic society.That's democracy as we in the UK know it.Brexiters get agitated by unelected bureaucrats from the European Commission administering policy in the UK before our own politicians and civil servants implement them.