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Quote from: hoolahoop on October 05, 2019, 08:21:46 amREFERENDUM RESULT TO CUT OUT THE VAGUE FIGURES BANDED ABOUT :13,000,000 DID NOT VOTE OR HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO VOTE !! ---------------------------------------------------------Total 46,500,001Leave 17,410,742 51.89%Remain 16,141,241 48.11%Valid 33,551,983 99.92%Invalid or blank votes 25,359 0.08%Total votes 33,577,342 100.00%Registered voters/turnoutYep, 13 million didn’t bother to vote.I wonder how many of those are primary moaners now (whichever side they are whinging about).
REFERENDUM RESULT TO CUT OUT THE VAGUE FIGURES BANDED ABOUT :13,000,000 DID NOT VOTE OR HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO VOTE !! ---------------------------------------------------------Total 46,500,001Leave 17,410,742 51.89%Remain 16,141,241 48.11%Valid 33,551,983 99.92%Invalid or blank votes 25,359 0.08%Total votes 33,577,342 100.00%Registered voters/turnout
Quote from: drfchound on October 05, 2019, 08:31:29 amQuote from: hoolahoop on October 05, 2019, 08:21:46 amREFERENDUM RESULT TO CUT OUT THE VAGUE FIGURES BANDED ABOUT :13,000,000 DID NOT VOTE OR HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO VOTE !! ---------------------------------------------------------Total 46,500,001Leave 17,410,742 51.89%Remain 16,141,241 48.11%Valid 33,551,983 99.92%Invalid or blank votes 25,359 0.08%Total votes 33,577,342 100.00%Registered voters/turnoutYep, 13 million didn’t bother to vote.I wonder how many of those are primary moaners now (whichever side they are whinging about).If you don't vote, you don't have any right to complain about the outcome, in my opinion.
"If turnout is low, we win. If it’s high, we lose," Mr Banks said. "Our strategy is to bore the electorate into submission, and it’s working."
Quote from: RedJ on December 03, 2018, 08:43:50 pmQuote from: the vicar on December 03, 2018, 08:35:33 pmQuote from: RedJ it was a it was a vote itlink=topic=268078.msg818775#msg818775 date=1543867905And that oversimplification is exactly why binary referendums shouldn't be used on such complex issues.it was a vote and as such should stand or democracy is deadDavid Davis disagrees. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-davis-countries-democracy-brexit-vote-article-50-second-referendum-a7629636.htmlI don't give a flying chit what he says we voted out and the courts said there will be no second vote so what the flock has it got to do with him
Quote from: the vicar on December 03, 2018, 08:35:33 pmQuote from: RedJ it was a it was a vote itlink=topic=268078.msg818775#msg818775 date=1543867905And that oversimplification is exactly why binary referendums shouldn't be used on such complex issues.it was a vote and as such should stand or democracy is deadDavid Davis disagrees. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-davis-countries-democracy-brexit-vote-article-50-second-referendum-a7629636.html
Quote from: RedJ it was a it was a vote itlink=topic=268078.msg818775#msg818775 date=1543867905And that oversimplification is exactly why binary referendums shouldn't be used on such complex issues.it was a vote and as such should stand or democracy is dead
And that oversimplification is exactly why binary referendums shouldn't be used on such complex issues.
If those numbers are accurate, only 37.4% of the electorate voted to leave..
Quote from: IDM on October 05, 2019, 12:31:21 pmIf those numbers are accurate, only 37.4% of the electorate voted to leave..The numbers are accurate and you are correct.'Democracy' in action eh!
BFYPThere are nearly half a billion people in the EU. 17 million of them, many self-admitting to having little knowledge on the topic, voted for us to leave. You expect the EU to make major changes to satisfy the 3%?
I thought it worthwhile bring this tweet to people's attention. We shall soon see if he is correct:Q: What does it tell you when in one 24 hour period No.10 floats:-daring the Queen to sack the PM-daring the police to arrest him-threatening to sabotage the EU if A50 is extended-a Commons vote on a Deal the EU has flatly rejected?A: That it has no plan & is desperate.https://twitter.com/StewartWood/status/1180770547438931968
Quote from: BigH on October 05, 2019, 05:56:18 pmQuote from: IDM on October 05, 2019, 12:31:21 pmIf those numbers are accurate, only 37.4% of the electorate voted to leave..The numbers are accurate and you are correct.'Democracy' in action eh!And even lower % wanted to stay in. The EU since that point has done absolutely nothing to change the problems that some had with it.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 06, 2019, 10:48:20 amBFYPThere are nearly half a billion people in the EU. 17 million of them, many self-admitting to having little knowledge on the topic, voted for us to leave. You expect the EU to make major changes to satisfy the 3%?Bear in mind even the remain vote was waged on changing the relationship with the eu, that is conveniently forgotten.I wonder how many eu citizens and where like the eu as is or would want change. We will of course not ever know that.
Read this Twitter thread. All of it.https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1180543762205986821This Financial Times journalist is NOT some soft as shite lefty. Far from it.And look what he is saying. The UK economy has tanked since the 2016 vote.Then remember. This tanking doesn't mean we all lose our jobs and pensions overnight. It means a long, slow decline.https://mobile.twitter.com/AnitaCTHF/status/1180750977772769280That's what you've given your grandkids. You older folk who voted Leave because...well why?You've put the country your grandkids will inherit onto a long term slower growth trajectory.That means they'll be poorer than they should have been. They'll work harder to pay the mortgage and the gas bill than they should have done.They'll have a shitter NHS than they should have done, and worse pensions than you have.But f**k it eh? You took back control.
Our legal advice is clear that we can do all sorts of things to scupper delay which for obvious reasons we aren’t going into details about. Different lawyers see the “frustration principle” very differently especially on a case like this where there is no precedent for primary legislation directing how the PM conducts international discussions.
We will make clear privately and publicly that countries which oppose delay will go the front of the queue for future cooperation — cooperation on things both within and outside EU competences. Those who support delay will go to the bottom of the queue.
we won’t engage in further talks, we obviously won’t given any undertakings about cooperative behaviour, everything to do with ‘duty of sincere cooperation’ will be in the toilet, we will focus on winning the election on a manifesto of immediately revoking the entire EU legal order without further talks, and then we will leave.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 07, 2019, 12:36:01 amRead this Twitter thread. All of it.https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1180543762205986821This Financial Times journalist is NOT some soft as shite lefty. Far from it.And look what he is saying. The UK economy has tanked since the 2016 vote.Then remember. This tanking doesn't mean we all lose our jobs and pensions overnight. It means a long, slow decline.https://mobile.twitter.com/AnitaCTHF/status/1180750977772769280That's what you've given your grandkids. You older folk who voted Leave because...well why?You've put the country your grandkids will inherit onto a long term slower growth trajectory.That means they'll be poorer than they should have been. They'll work harder to pay the mortgage and the gas bill than they should have done.They'll have a shitter NHS than they should have done, and worse pensions than you have.But f**k it eh? You took back control.Funny how Professor Patrick Minford has slunk from view...Even he - the doyen of the Brexit economist brigade - realises that there is no longer a basis for peddling the nonsense about the supposed economic case for Brexit.