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But years on how many do you think would change there vote? Very few at a guess looking at other social media and people I speak to as many have said they would vote leave now, no problemWith having a opinion and it might well be right but stop with the people didn’t know what they voted for, they were lied to and everything else, accept that people views vary and they have there own reasons for leaving not just financial in the short/medium term
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 19, 2019, 06:12:56 pmI did. Dont start with the b*llocks that all leave voters are thick, it is not the case.Naïve is probably the word.
I did. Dont start with the b*llocks that all leave voters are thick, it is not the case.
Quote from: SydneyRover on October 19, 2019, 02:24:59 pmCan ppl please try and stop saying ''respect the referendum'' which was a bad idea, badly executed, corrupt, the ppl were misinformed and uneducated in what it meant and it's implications, it was the biggest pile of dogshit ever.your words are 1 big reason people will not change there mind, people did no what they were voting for and that was leaving the eu, that is why so few if any have changed there minds
Can ppl please try and stop saying ''respect the referendum'' which was a bad idea, badly executed, corrupt, the ppl were misinformed and uneducated in what it meant and it's implications, it was the biggest pile of dogshit ever.
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 19, 2019, 05:37:17 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on October 19, 2019, 02:24:59 pmCan ppl please try and stop saying ''respect the referendum'' which was a bad idea, badly executed, corrupt, the ppl were misinformed and uneducated in what it meant and it's implications, it was the biggest pile of dogshit ever.your words are 1 big reason people will not change there mind, people did no what they were voting for and that was leaving the eu, that is why so few if any have changed there mindsDo you ever have any citations, polling etc to back up what you write bp, where does it come from?
BpoolYour post sums up the problem.You can't define what "leaving the EU" means.Norway isn't in the EU. Farage says (now) that Johnson's deal which means a FAR bigger separation from the EU than Norway has, is not really leaving.You see the point. You CANNOT say you were voting to leave the EU and that's that.
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 19, 2019, 06:16:07 pmBut years on how many do you think would change there vote? Very few at a guess looking at other social media and people I speak to as many have said they would vote leave now, no problemWith having a opinion and it might well be right but stop with the people didn’t know what they voted for, they were lied to and everything else, accept that people views vary and they have there own reasons for leaving not just financial in the short/medium term I know of a brilliant way to find out.
Quote from: Campsall rover on October 19, 2019, 01:33:05 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on October 19, 2019, 01:15:37 pmI still don't understand why we're doing something there is literally zero positives to.How do you know, have you a crystal ball. 52% said leave. That’s democracy. We will know in 5 yrs + whether it was good or bad. No one knows.We had a referendum and we should abide by it END OF. It’s called Democracy. Right i am of to watch Rovers. I take it from all that that you don't know of any positives either.Know in five years? I knew before the referendum that leaving the Single Market was going to be bloody awful for the economy, but all I got was ignorant people who know nothing insisting that I couldn't possibly know anything about the future either despite going into a lot a technical details explaining why it will be bad for UK business.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on October 19, 2019, 01:15:37 pmI still don't understand why we're doing something there is literally zero positives to.How do you know, have you a crystal ball. 52% said leave. That’s democracy. We will know in 5 yrs + whether it was good or bad. No one knows.We had a referendum and we should abide by it END OF. It’s called Democracy. Right i am of to watch Rovers.
I still don't understand why we're doing something there is literally zero positives to.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on October 19, 2019, 03:41:42 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on October 19, 2019, 01:33:05 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on October 19, 2019, 01:15:37 pmI still don't understand why we're doing something there is literally zero positives to.How do you know, have you a crystal ball. 52% said leave. That’s democracy. We will know in 5 yrs + whether it was good or bad. No one knows.We had a referendum and we should abide by it END OF. It’s called Democracy. Right i am of to watch Rovers. I take it from all that that you don't know of any positives either.Know in five years? I knew before the referendum that leaving the Single Market was going to be bloody awful for the economy, but all I got was ignorant people who know nothing insisting that I couldn't possibly know anything about the future either despite going into a lot a technical details explaining why it will be bad for UK business.We will be able to make our own decisions on immigration who we allow or don’t allow to come to this country to live. That is the biggest positive and i would suspect that is the overriding factor why 52% voted to leave.We will not be paying billions to the EU every year. That’s a second positive.We will not be tied to EU legislation on Employment law and various other legislation which we can’t independently control.We will be able to negotiate our trade deals with who we want as and when we want.Do you want me to go on any further. I voted to Remain in 2016 but as time has gone on it has clearly been obvious we are better leaving an EU which has become a giant club which costs a fortune to belong to with so many regulations which restricts our independence on so many issues. Imo, If we had another referendum now the Leavers would be in the majority still. I think the numbers would be slightly greater in fact. My estimate would be 54% / 46% This Letwin amendment will solve nothing. All it does is drag this farcical process on & on & on. How is anyone else going to negotiate a different deal? Please tell me. Why is it a bad deal? Where is the evidence. Even the Governor of the Bank of England says it’s a good deal. The only people who say it’s a bad deal are those that want to remain and can’t and won’t accept the will of the people. And the SNP who have their own agenda of course, and the Liberals who just make it up as they go along. Anything to try and win a few seats. The people of this country (majority) said leave in a democratic vote. If we don’t leave the EU democracy is dead and there will be no trust in politicians to carry out the wishes of its people in the future. That will be a very sad day for the UK.
got any proof guvnor?you can’t have proof if you put any poll up it’s only educated guess how can he prove it, you prove that brexit is not a good idea proper proof?
And I am sure there are plenty of leave voters who chose to vote leave after careful consideration and in the knowledge that it would be a difficult process. But also that plenty didn’t..
Quote from: Campsall rover on October 19, 2019, 09:43:55 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on October 19, 2019, 03:41:42 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on October 19, 2019, 01:33:05 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on October 19, 2019, 01:15:37 pmI still don't understand why we're doing something there is literally zero positives to.How do you know, have you a crystal ball. 52% said leave. That’s democracy. We will know in 5 yrs + whether it was good or bad. No one knows.We had a referendum and we should abide by it END OF. It’s called Democracy. Right i am of to watch Rovers. I take it from all that that you don't know of any positives either.Know in five years? I knew before the referendum that leaving the Single Market was going to be bloody awful for the economy, but all I got was ignorant people who know nothing insisting that I couldn't possibly know anything about the future either despite going into a lot a technical details explaining why it will be bad for UK business.We will be able to make our own decisions on immigration who we allow or don’t allow to come to this country to live. That is the biggest positive and i would suspect that is the overriding factor why 52% voted to leave.We will not be paying billions to the EU every year. That’s a second positive.We will not be tied to EU legislation on Employment law and various other legislation which we can’t independently control.We will be able to negotiate our trade deals with who we want as and when we want.Do you want me to go on any further. I voted to Remain in 2016 but as time has gone on it has clearly been obvious we are better leaving an EU which has become a giant club which costs a fortune to belong to with so many regulations which restricts our independence on so many issues. Imo, If we had another referendum now the Leavers would be in the majority still. I think the numbers would be slightly greater in fact. My estimate would be 54% / 46% This Letwin amendment will solve nothing. All it does is drag this farcical process on & on & on. How is anyone else going to negotiate a different deal? Please tell me. Why is it a bad deal? Where is the evidence. Even the Governor of the Bank of England says it’s a good deal. The only people who say it’s a bad deal are those that want to remain and can’t and won’t accept the will of the people. And the SNP who have their own agenda of course, and the Liberals who just make it up as they go along. Anything to try and win a few seats. The people of this country (majority) said leave in a democratic vote. If we don’t leave the EU democracy is dead and there will be no trust in politicians to carry out the wishes of its people in the future. That will be a very sad day for the UK.No not really, the majority of those who voted chose leave, not the majority of the people.Apart from the leave means leave mantra, no one - and that means no one either leave or remain - knew what the detail of actually leaving would mean as a deal had not been laid out before the referendum. Let’s say a family chooses after discussion to take their next holiday overseas.. but they don’t know where, and when it comes to booking, they can’t agree where. Nothing gets booked but they still insist on going to the airport on 31 Oct to board a plane, but still not agreeing which one and probably without any currency or passports..But hey, going abroad means going abroad..Again this is a very simplistic analogy but illustrates the point.
Quote from: Campsall rover on October 19, 2019, 09:43:55 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on October 19, 2019, 03:41:42 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on October 19, 2019, 01:33:05 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on October 19, 2019, 01:15:37 pmI still don't understand why we're doing something there is literally zero positives to.How do you know, have you a crystal ball. 52% said leave. That’s democracy. We will know in 5 yrs + whether it was good or bad. No one knows.We had a referendum and we should abide by it END OF. It’s called Democracy. Right i am of to watch Rovers. I take it from all that that you don't know of any positives either.Know in five years? I knew before the referendum that leaving the Single Market was going to be bloody awful for the economy, but all I got was ignorant people who know nothing insisting that I couldn't possibly know anything about the future either despite going into a lot a technical details explaining why it will be bad for UK business.We will be able to make our own decisions on immigration who we allow or don’t allow to come to this country to live. That is the biggest positive and i would suspect that is the overriding factor why 52% voted to leave.We will not be paying billions to the EU every year. That’s a second positive.We will not be tied to EU legislation on Employment law and various other legislation which we can’t independently control.We will be able to negotiate our trade deals with who we want as and when we want.Do you want me to go on any further. I voted to Remain in 2016 but as time has gone on it has clearly been obvious we are better leaving an EU which has become a giant club which costs a fortune to belong to with so many regulations which restricts our independence on so many issues. Imo, If we had another referendum now the Leavers would be in the majority still. I think the numbers would be slightly greater in fact. My estimate would be 54% / 46% This Letwin amendment will solve nothing. All it does is drag this farcical process on & on & on. How is anyone else going to negotiate a different deal? Please tell me. Why is it a bad deal? Where is the evidence. Even the Governor of the Bank of England says it’s a good deal. The only people who say it’s a bad deal are those that want to remain and can’t and won’t accept the will of the people. And the SNP who have their own agenda of course, and the Liberals who just make it up as they go along. Anything to try and win a few seats. The people of this country (majority) said leave in a democratic vote. If we don’t leave the EU democracy is dead and there will be no trust in politicians to carry out the wishes of its people in the future. That will be a very sad day for the UK.Leaving the Single Market will lose us loads more money than what we stop paying to the EU. And you think that's a positive. Rather sums it up.
I did actually say a majority of those who voted.17.4 million does not represent a majority of the electorate.. Brexit voting should have been compulsory for every one..