Cost of living crisis. What crisis?

[IC1967]

I've provided it previously on another thread.

[RedJ]

Then I'm sure you'll have no problem posting the link again.

[IC1967]

Why can't you just take my word for it. They don't call me BST who makes things up and uses stats in a very selective disingenuous manner. It's a no brainer and blindingly obvious to anyone that being in the public sector is a right cushy number compared to the private sector on the whole. I agree some members of the public sector do work incredibly hard and deserve a lot more than they get but they are in a small minority.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26512643

[BillyStubbsTears]

Mick. You're a lucky boy. Wroey had someone in court for lesser slander than you have just committed.

Point out a single instance where I've made something up.

YOU, have a rap sheet the length on the A1 on that score, from

making up your personality three times, and each time insisting that you are nothing to do with the previous one.

inventing figures on debt that turned out to be out by £6trillion, insisting that they were from your own research, then accepting that your photographic memory had copied them from elsewhere before finally arguing that the figure didn't matter when it was proved to be wrong.

Editing a post on your National predictions to make it look as though you were a tipster genius, refusing to answer questions on it for days when confronted, then finally claiming it was a joke.

copying and pasting, claiming it as your own ideas then claiming that it is your photographic memory when the original source is presented (your photographic memory even included the formatting on one occasion).

I could go on, but what's the point. You're either the unfunniest WUM in Internet history, or you are mentally unstable.

But don't you, of all people, start accusing others of making things up. And if you DO, you'd better be able to substantiate it.

[RedJ]

You're the unfunniest WUM in Internet history.

I thought we'd already established this?

[IC1967]

Hahaha. You do make laugh. It's a good job I'm not a sensitive soul like you. Some of the stuff you've written about me is very dubious indeed. However you can rest assured I have no intention of  taking it any further. So get a grip man. It's only a forum read by a few dozen people.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Go on. Point out one thing I've made up. Not an error quickly corrected. A made up thing. An unsubstantiated lie. You've made an allegation. You substantiate it or withdraw it.

You'll recognise a lie if you find one. You're a past master at lying, so you'll find it easy to spots one.

In your own time.

[IC1967]

Stop it. My sides are hurting. May I suggest you take a chill pill and we'll say no more about the matter.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Right. We'll chalk that one up as yet another example of you spouting shite then walking off when confronted.

There's a name for people like you in the off-line world. You are contemptible.

[IC1967]

Look, just be grateful I've decided to go easy on you. You are obviously punch drunk from all the batterings you've had off me. Hopefully you've taken a chill pill and will feel better in the morning.

[BillyStubbsTears]

You're an embarrassment man. An utter embarrassment.

[RedJ]

You're the unfunniest WUM in Internet history.

Look, just be grateful I've decided to go easy on you. You are obviously punch drunk from all the batterings you've had off me. Hopefully you've taken a chill pill and will feel better in the morning.

Yet more proof.

[wilts rover]

I've provided it previously on another thread.

[IC1967]

Right, you asked for it. You and your leftie friends just couldn't just let it 'lie' could you.

In the 'Next time you hear' thread where you call right wingers t**ts you said there are no jobs. I proved that there were over 600,000 jobs. You said over the last 5-6 years there have been 8-10 people looking for every 1 job. You were out by a factor of 2. You even admitted that it was a top of the head calculation.

There is plenty more but hopefully that will do for now. Now get that abject apology sorted and we'll say no more about the matter.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Corrected rapidly.

The figures in 2008-12 were 1 job vacancy for every 7 on the dole depending on exactly which source you use. That came down to one in 6 by mid 2013 and about 4.5 by today.

That was an error of mental arithmetic, in a post late at night, when I was working on a report for a customer. It was corrected rapidly. It didn't change the core of the argument, because in normal times, the figure is 1-2. The point is that for an unprecedentedly long time, there has been an abnormally low number of job vacancies compared to people on the dole.

But I got the number wrong. And I quickly gave precisely correct ones.

Compare and contrast with the multiple examples of you digging your heels in when confronted with the fact that you have lied, and stretching out a tedious argument for days.

There is a world of difference between making a mistake (which we all do) and systematically making things up and defending them to the hilt (which only habitual liars or the mentally unhinged do).

[RedJ]

And then effectively going "hurr hurr I won because you gave up".

[IC1967]

I'll let you off over you unemployment mistake if we could just for once have an abject apology.

Another example. You said there had been a conspiracy over Plebgate. You seemed to know more than the CPS. You were shown to be using nothing but your leftie slanted view of things. I completely showed you up over that one. You eventually agreed that there had only been collusion. Very grudgingly I might add.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Mick

You accused me of making things up. You have brought up one example of a mistake and one of a matter of semantics and interpretation.

Neither if those comes remotely close to claiming that you bear no relation to previous incarnations of your personality, repeatedly claiming that plagiarised work was your own, claiming that figures you post are from "your own research" when they are plagiarised again, claiming to have predicted the winner of the National and steadfastly refusing to accept your deception when confronted with the evidence.

Etc, etc, etc.

You accuse other people of making things up.

Tell you what. Let's start with you. You grow up and admit that you are the same person as MadMick and mjdgreg. THEN we can have a debate about consistency and making things up. Otherwise, I'm left with the uncomfortable feeling that I'm arguing with someone who has mental health issues. 

[IC1967]

I am IC1967!!!

[BillyStubbsTears]

You are beyond caricature and beyond hope.

Mick. We all KNOW that you are the same person as those other two creations. You'd gain a little bit of respect by owning up to it, instead of keeping up this bizarre and unsettling pretence.

[RedJ]

Not to forget that Marydene Rover and mjg.

[IC1967]

I am IC1967!!!

[Filo]

I am IC1967!!!

Mick, get yourself some help, I just have visions in my head of you giggling away to yourself whilst you keep repeating that, proclaiming the whole world is mad and you are the last bastion of sanity. To keep the wumming up for the length of time you have, in your many usernames has got to be a sign of serious insanity, and for the record I know you're not Marydene Rover, he's a relation of yours that lives in Hull

[IC1967]

I am IC1967!!!

[IC1967]

What about this disingenuous use of statistics trying to convince people the Tories had the best of the way MPs are elected.

In England, 25.03 million votes were cast. 9.89million of them were for the Tories(39.5%), 7.0million for Labour(28.1%).

So, in the most perfect conditions that any political strategist could ever dream of, the Tory party managed to get fewer than 2 votes in 5 in the "conservative" England.

But here's another thing. Every fool knows that Labour gets an unfair advantage from the way that the constituencies are set up. Well aye. In England, the Tories got 1 MP for every 33,400 votes. Labour got 1MP for every 36,827 votes.

Anyone reading your above statement might be forgiven for thinking that the electoral system favours the Tories. It does not. The Tories need around 10% more votes than Labour to be on an equal footing regarding the number of MPs each party would get.

[IC1967]

Still waiting.

[IC1967]

I'm still waiting. I've got a lot more when you can be bothered to try and wriggle out of this one.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Mick

I've told you. I'm replying to nothing until you grow up and admit to your multiple personalities problem. Then we can talk like grown ups.

[IC1967]

I knew you'd try and wriggle out of being caught bang to rights. Typical.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Not in the slightest. You have once again failed to substantiate your accusation that I make things up. You are spouting your usual ill-directed bullshit and veering off point. But I'm simply not prepared to discuss anything with someone who is mentally unstable to the point that they have multiple personalities.

Face up to your multiple personality issues and admit what EVERYONE on here already knows. Then you can be taken seriously. Otherwise you are not up to talking to grown-ups.