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But all trending down again. Yet again the huge end of world predicted hasn't arrived.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 05, 2021, 06:07:22 pmBut all trending down again. Yet again the huge end of world predicted hasn't arrived.Yep pud the families of the 800 a week that have been dying are over the moon.
Quote from: SydneyRover on October 06, 2021, 09:13:56 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 05, 2021, 06:07:22 pmBut all trending down again. Yet again the huge end of world predicted hasn't arrived.Yep pud the families of the 800 a week that have been dying are over the moon.do you not think it's a positive thing that's numbers are coming down or would you rather the predictions were right?
Quote from: SydneyRover on October 06, 2021, 09:13:56 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 05, 2021, 06:07:22 pmBut all trending down again. Yet again the huge end of world predicted hasn't arrived.Yep pud the families of the 800 a week that have been dying are over the moon.I think your figures are a little 'out'.
Quote from: SydneyRover on October 06, 2021, 09:13:56 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 05, 2021, 06:07:22 pmBut all trending down again. Yet again the huge end of world predicted hasn't arrived.Yep pud the families of the 800 a week that have been dying are over the moon.People die it's part of life. A normal level of deaths is an acceptable part of life. Or do we go for no deaths and lockdown forever?Life's pretty normal over here in the UK, not many really grumbling about that at all.
This bad cold that is going around at the moment. Have we got a vaccine for it? If not, why not? Why is there not a clamour to get a vaccine for this nasty cold that might kill old people that is going around?Sarcasm yes but point made. Viruses circulate all the time yet we aren't sticking needles in our arms every 2 minutes, testing within an inch of our lives and wetting the bed constantly, although that COULD be incontinence. Get on with life. Ignore Mr Covid. He's just another virus chucked into the mixer.
We are obviously in a better place than we were 6/7 months ago. But can anyone give a reason as to why we still have such a high mortality rate compared to our European neighbours. Spain, France, Netherlands, Germany, Italy etc all have far fewer deaths from Covid than we do. For ever 100 people who die in the uk from Covid only 57 die in mainland Europe. It’s not the vaccinations, although most of these countries have slightly more fully vaccinated people. Our nhs although underfunded isn’t under undue pressure. So why are we still so bad? And why do we just accept it…..
We are obviously in a better place than we were 6/7 months ago. But can anyone give a reason as to why we still have such a high mortality rate compared to our European neighbours. Spain, France, Netherlands, Germany, Italy etc all have far fewer deaths from Covid than we do. For ever 100 people who die in the uk from Covid only 57 die in mainland Europe. It’s not the vaccinations, although most of these countries have slightly more fully vaccinated people. Our nhs although underfunded isn’t under undue pressure. So why are we still so bad?
Do you know just any other virus that's killed 1000 people a day in this country?
I'm not a denier. I'm not an anti vaxxer. I am a realist. There is a virus that kills a small number of people relative to the population. People can have vaccines if they so wish that might stop them getting ill. The end. Normality resumed. There is no 100% certainty about anything in life yet people are going around wanting it. They are crackers. Move on and forget about it. For a dose of realism, look up George Carlin germs on youtube and laugh at the inability of the human race to accept reality.
It's a virus which would have, if left to its own devices, killed almost as many people in 6 weeks as normally die in a year. Apart from the moral outrage of allowing that to happen, as you say we should (half a million lives each cut short by 10 years), normal society cannot operate in those circumstances. Look at how an unmitigated outbreak in just one medium sized city in Italy last year overwhelmed the health service of an entire region and the mortuary system of most of Northern Italy. I have relatives in a city 150 miles from Bergamo. They were having corpses from Bergamo driven into their city for incineration. Multiply that up to the scale of a whole country and see if you are still relaxed about this alternative history that you haven't had to face.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on October 07, 2021, 12:40:39 pmI'm not a denier. I'm not an anti vaxxer. I am a realist. There is a virus that kills a small number of people relative to the population. People can have vaccines if they so wish that might stop them getting ill. The end. Normality resumed. There is no 100% certainty about anything in life yet people are going around wanting it. They are crackers. Move on and forget about it. For a dose of realism, look up George Carlin germs on youtube and laugh at the inability of the human race to accept reality.I've been saying this for ages. I didn't really want the jab to begin with but i have had it, now i need to live my life. Life goes on, people are born then at some point they die.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on October 07, 2021, 01:10:39 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on October 07, 2021, 12:40:39 pmI'm not a denier. I'm not an anti vaxxer. I am a realist. There is a virus that kills a small number of people relative to the population. People can have vaccines if they so wish that might stop them getting ill. The end. Normality resumed. There is no 100% certainty about anything in life yet people are going around wanting it. They are crackers. Move on and forget about it. For a dose of realism, look up George Carlin germs on youtube and laugh at the inability of the human race to accept reality.I've been saying this for ages. I didn't really want the jab to begin with but i have had it, now i need to live my life. Life goes on, people are born then at some point they die.Good stuff Axholme. I've had one jab and refused the second. Won't be having any more jabs and will forfeit travel etc in order to preserve the memories of all those true heroes (not over exaggerated ones in the NHS like we are led to believe in today's media hype) that fought in the world wars for our freedoms. Men, women and kids who fought for us to be able to enjoy the freedoms we enjoy today and who experienced REAL TERROR. Not just a virus that doesn't affect 99.9% of people. These people who are pro vaccine passport are pissing all over the graves of their relatives who gave up so much for them and they just can't see it. Dumb assholes. People in the war experienced real fear and many died to give us our freedoms that most are simply handing back the state on a plate. Sick and i won't be a part of it. If i get ill with Covid then i go to hospital and they treat me. Because that is what the NHS is for. Like they treat alcoholics, people who live off McDonalds, people who smoke 40 a day, people who go climbing up Blencathra in shorts and t-shirt using a phone to navigate, people who drive their cars too fast and end up in an accident. No matter what the self inflicted damage, the NHS are there to protect and treat us. Not the other way around. The NHS is treated like some religious cult that can't be criticised, when in actual fact it is a dyfunctional pile of horse shit that fails thousands of people every day who don't have a choice.
Come on lads. Get it all out. All that bile that's been building up inside. You'll feel much better when it is all out.