The queen say's matt hancock is full of ..................

[Nudga]

As I was saying. YouGov poll today. Tory voters say by 44-33% that Hancock should not resign.

For way too many people, it doesn't matter what you do, as long as you're on our side.

Yougov is not really credible though is it. Zahawis business has links to the firm that runs Yougov.

Yougov ran a poll on whether health passports should be mandatory, it came out around 70/30 in favour of them.

Jeremy vine ran a similar poll on twitter and it was around 92/8 against them.
Vine then chose not to publish those results on his show and it never got mentioned.

[Filo]

Strange really, how you believe The Sun when it suits!

It's also strange that you should even be reading such an out of the bounds of respectability news outlet in the first place, unless, of course, you read it regularly and only use it as a platform of truth when it suits!

Not directed at it me but I've never read The Sun in my life but I'm on Twitter and Matt Hancocks kissing picture is all over there at the moment, you don't need to go on their website or buy The Sun to see that. Also, the point about their factuality is true, they aren't known as the most reliable outlet, however, a picture or video is hard to disagree with.

But it is still a Sun article that has been used because it suits! If it had been a Labour politician it wouldn't have been accepted as genuine by the lefties on this forum, and most certainly not brought to attention by them!

I think they call it grown up politics or summat 'ot sorts.

What do you think should happen regarding Hancock BB, apologies if I’ve missed your opinion amongst the petty squabbles

[Bentley Bullet]

I think his private life should be private.

[Filo]

I think his private life should be private.

True

Let me rephrase that, what is your opinion of a Govt Minister that has broken the law that everyone else has to adhere to?

[DonnyOsmond]

Strange really, how you believe The Sun when it suits!

It's also strange that you should even be reading such an out of the bounds of respectability news outlet in the first place, unless, of course, you read it regularly and only use it as a platform of truth when it suits!

Not directed at it me but I've never read The Sun in my life but I'm on Twitter and Matt Hancocks kissing picture is all over there at the moment, you don't need to go on their website or buy The Sun to see that. Also, the point about their factuality is true, they aren't known as the most reliable outlet, however, a picture or video is hard to disagree with.

But it is still a Sun article that has been used because it suits! If it had been a Labour politician it wouldn't have been accepted as genuine by the lefties on this forum, and most certainly not brought to attention by them!

I think they call it grown up politics or summat 'ot sorts.

[albie]

So where do you think the Sun got hold of security video from?
An investigation might help, unless of course it was from within government.

Nudga,

You cannot run a meaningful poll on Twitter, even if Jeremy Vine thinks you can.
There is no overlap between this and a properly set up poll sample.

[Nudga]

You cannot run a meaningful poll on yougov either because they've been known to fiddle with the numbers.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Typical of this Govt of course. When Hancock wants a service, he gives the job to one of his old university mates, instead of putting the job out to Tinder.

I really hope that's a deliberate typo

I'm getting the feeling I'm wasted here.

Sometimes you need a good drink while you're reading this forum.

Sometimes you should probably stay off it when you've had a couple.

Mmmm, is that an insult then?

No. It was a word of advice from someone who has made that mistake.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I think his private life should be private.

But it's not his private life.

1) He's employed someone he's known for 20 years.

2) There is no public record of the job description or recruitment process.

3) She's been paid with your and my money.

4) They are having an affair, contrary to the letter and spirit of the Ministerial Code.

5) They broke the very law on household mixing that Hancock himself signed.

Point out which part of that should be glossed over as being "private".

[Bentley Bullet]

Eh, all that information from one private photo taken on the sly!

[Filo]

Eh, all that information from one private photo taken on the sly!

Taken on the sly or not, he broke the law, a law he signed off, whats your opinion on that, for the third time

[BillyStubbsTears]

No. BB.

The first half of points 4 and 5 are from that photo, and from Hancock's own admission. The rest is public domain information.

Do you think Hancock should resign based on the information we know?

[River Don]

Even Tory MPs are saying he ought to resign now...

[Bentley Bullet]

If Hancock has broken the law then he should face the consequences. It's not up to me what those consequences should be, neither should it be up to those who constantly troll the internet looking for anything anti-government they can find in order to bring down the government.

[BillyStubbsTears]

So you don't have any opinion on this then BB?

Is it REALLY that hard? Is it really that much about winning an argument for you?

[River Don]

BB

Hancock himself thinks it's a resigning matter when it's not applied to him.

He even thinks it's a police matter!

[Filo]

If Hancock has broken the law then he should face the consequences. It's not up to me what those consequences should be, neither should it be up to those who constantly troll the internet looking for anything anti-government they can find in order to bring down the government.

Bit of a cop out that, no one said it was up to you, I was asking your opinion of what you think should happen

[Bentley Bullet]

So you don't have any opinion on this then BB?

Is it REALLY that hard? Is it really that much about winning an argument for you?

Yes, I have an opinion, and I've expressed it. You see Billy Boy, my opinion is not a politically based biased one, unlike yours. That's why you don't agree with it!

You see, I don't have a problem with us having a government that I didn't vote for, because I'm not a hideously irate bad loser with an obsession for bringing the government down because my own party is too shit to come anywhere near winning an election on its own merit like you are.

[River Don]

I don't think anyone on here is suggesting what the consequences should be BB.

We're just being guided by the man who put his name to the law, Mr Hancock himself.

He says resignation isn't good enough. The Police should be involved too.

[Bentley Bullet]

RD, if no one on here is suggesting what the consequences should be, why did they ask me what they should be?

[River Don]

RD, if no one on here is suggesting what the consequences should be, why did they ask me what they should be?

Because "Billy Boy" suggested that there are some people these days who are so partisan they can never ever condemn a politician who is on their side...

[Glyn_Wigley]

I can't help but wonder about the mental health of someone who wades into every topic but always says they don't have an opinion to share.

[Bentley Bullet]

RD, if no one on here is suggesting what the consequences should be, why did they ask me what they should be?

Because "Billy Boy" suggest that there are some people these days who are so partisan they can never ever condemn a politician who is on their side...

For me, it's nothing to do with being partisan to the Tories, It's everything to do with opposing the one-sided, politically biased lefties on here and trying to add a bit of balance.

[River Don]

Opposing one-sided politically biased lefties, isn't being partisan?

[Glyn_Wigley]

Opposing one-sided politically biased lefties, isn't being partisan?

It's as petty as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ

Only they manage to do it without the personal comments and insults BB obvious thinks he and his mighty intellect needs to resort to.

[Bentley Bullet]

I can't help but wonder about the mental health of someone who wades into every topic but always says they don't have an opinion to share.

I can't help but suspect you were one of those types who hung on to the shirttails of the playground bullies in your school days and always got a thrill out of having a sly kick when the victim lay on the floor at the end.

Go on, you were, weren't you? I'm right, aren't I?

[Glyn_Wigley]

I can't help but wonder about the mental health of someone who wades into every topic but always says they don't have an opinion to share.

I can't help but suspect you were one of those types who hung on to the shirttails of the playground bullies in your school days and always got a thrill out of having a sly kick when the victim lay on the floor at the end.

Go on, you were, weren't you? I'm right, aren't I?

Hooked first time.

This baiting lark really is as easy as selby says it is.

[Glyn_Wigley]

See what I mean Don?

[River Don]

I can't help but wonder about the mental health of someone who wades into every topic but always says they don't have an opinion to share.

I can't help but suspect you were one of those types who hung on to the shirttails of the playground bullies in your school days and always got a thrill out of having a sly kick when the victim lay on the floor at the end.

Go on, you were, weren't you? I'm right, aren't I?

I think it was Margaret Thatcher who said, you know you've won the argument when they have to resort to personal insults...

[Glyn_Wigley]

But he doesn't resort to them, he starts with them.