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…..that both manager and upper management perhaps underestimated the extent of the work required just to keep Rovers on an even keel.So what finally made the penny drop . Was recruitment or performances or our dreadful away record or paying for players who aren’t featuring or our managers amateur approach to everything he does and his excuses for how things end up. WHO KNOWS ?
And 1969 didn't give any attribution either. Spouting b*llocks again as if his own tiny mind had made it up...BobG
Quote from: BobG on November 15, 2021, 03:24:22 pmAnd 1969 didn't give any attribution either. Spouting b*llocks again as if his own tiny mind had made it up...BobG hi again Bob “Gobshite”It says Manager and Upper management so who IS the upper Management? IF not the club owners ! Doh !
Quote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 03:59:11 pmQuote from: BobG on November 15, 2021, 03:24:22 pmAnd 1969 didn't give any attribution either. Spouting b*llocks again as if his own tiny mind had made it up...BobG hi again Bob “Gobshite”It says Manager and Upper management so who IS the upper Management? IF not the club owners ! Doh ! Since when has LH been the final arbiter of truth about Rovers? And since when have you started swallowing everything he says?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 15, 2021, 05:37:48 pmQuote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 03:59:11 pmQuote from: BobG on November 15, 2021, 03:24:22 pmAnd 1969 didn't give any attribution either. Spouting b*llocks again as if his own tiny mind had made it up...BobG hi again Bob “Gobshite”It says Manager and Upper management so who IS the upper Management? IF not the club owners ! Doh ! Since when has LH been the final arbiter of truth about Rovers? And since when have you started swallowing everything he says? The article was NOT LHs opinion, it was a cumulation of interviews that brought about a response from the hierarchy at the club that are examining the poor slide in the clubs on the field fortunes . Richie Wellens isn’t all to blame and they “the club” know this ,but it is Wellens job to put things on a sound footing by demonstrating a collaborative plan to guide the club and it very much looks like they maybe having second thoughts ?
Quote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 06:21:09 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 15, 2021, 05:37:48 pmQuote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 03:59:11 pmQuote from: BobG on November 15, 2021, 03:24:22 pmAnd 1969 didn't give any attribution either. Spouting b*llocks again as if his own tiny mind had made it up...BobG hi again Bob “Gobshite”It says Manager and Upper management so who IS the upper Management? IF not the club owners ! Doh ! Since when has LH been the final arbiter of truth about Rovers? And since when have you started swallowing everything he says? The article was NOT LHs opinion, it was a cumulation of interviews that brought about a response from the hierarchy at the club that are examining the poor slide in the clubs on the field fortunes . Richie Wellens isn’t all to blame and they “the club” know this ,but it is Wellens job to put things on a sound footing by demonstrating a collaborative plan to guide the club and it very much looks like they maybe having second thoughts ? An article based on 'cumulative interviews' with NOT ONE direct quote from ANYBODY? Of course it's his fecking opinion.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 15, 2021, 07:50:05 pmQuote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 06:21:09 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 15, 2021, 05:37:48 pmQuote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 03:59:11 pmQuote from: BobG on November 15, 2021, 03:24:22 pmAnd 1969 didn't give any attribution either. Spouting b*llocks again as if his own tiny mind had made it up...BobG hi again Bob “Gobshite”It says Manager and Upper management so who IS the upper Management? IF not the club owners ! Doh ! Since when has LH been the final arbiter of truth about Rovers? And since when have you started swallowing everything he says? The article was NOT LHs opinion, it was a cumulation of interviews that brought about a response from the hierarchy at the club that are examining the poor slide in the clubs on the field fortunes . Richie Wellens isn’t all to blame and they “the club” know this ,but it is Wellens job to put things on a sound footing by demonstrating a collaborative plan to guide the club and it very much looks like they maybe having second thoughts ? An article based on 'cumulative interviews' with NOT ONE direct quote from ANYBODY? Of course it's his fecking opinion. Do honestly think he would write an article on the clubs thoughts , as he is considered the official local reporter on the club, without them giving him a nod to its content or direction .
Quote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 08:08:37 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 15, 2021, 07:50:05 pmQuote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 06:21:09 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 15, 2021, 05:37:48 pmQuote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 03:59:11 pmQuote from: BobG on November 15, 2021, 03:24:22 pmAnd 1969 didn't give any attribution either. Spouting b*llocks again as if his own tiny mind had made it up...BobG hi again Bob “Gobshite”It says Manager and Upper management so who IS the upper Management? IF not the club owners ! Doh ! Since when has LH been the final arbiter of truth about Rovers? And since when have you started swallowing everything he says? The article was NOT LHs opinion, it was a cumulation of interviews that brought about a response from the hierarchy at the club that are examining the poor slide in the clubs on the field fortunes . Richie Wellens isn’t all to blame and they “the club” know this ,but it is Wellens job to put things on a sound footing by demonstrating a collaborative plan to guide the club and it very much looks like they maybe having second thoughts ? An article based on 'cumulative interviews' with NOT ONE direct quote from ANYBODY? Of course it's his fecking opinion. Do honestly think he would write an article on the clubs thoughts , as he is considered the official local reporter on the club, without them giving him a nod to its content or direction . Well, he's done exactly that in that article, without giving ANY provenance or attribution whatsoever! He doesn't even bother to tell us what the 'acknowledgement' he mentions in his very first line is or who gave it!Even the title you used for this thread - 'it has become apparent' tells us it's an opinion!!
Without wishing to repeat what was written , his reference to the clubs hierarchy and upper management, says he had spoken to them and concluded that it was their accumulated belief that the job required by Wellens was indeed bigger that first assumed .
Quote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 08:25:40 pm Without wishing to repeat what was written , his reference to the clubs hierarchy and upper management, says he had spoken to them and concluded that it was their accumulated belief that the job required by Wellens was indeed bigger that first assumed . How can you repeat something that wasn't written? lolNOWHERE does he say he's spoken to anybody at the club about the contents of that article.And then - and then!! - you say he CONCLUDED that it was their belief!!!To CONCLUDE something is form a fecking opinion!!! Please, for the love of God, tell me you're not an English teacher.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 15, 2021, 08:31:29 pmQuote from: since-1969 on November 15, 2021, 08:25:40 pm Without wishing to repeat what was written , his reference to the clubs hierarchy and upper management, says he had spoken to them and concluded that it was their accumulated belief that the job required by Wellens was indeed bigger that first assumed . How can you repeat something that wasn't written? lolNOWHERE does he say he's spoken to anybody at the club about the contents of that article.And then - and then!! - you say he CONCLUDED that it was their belief!!!To CONCLUDE something is form a fecking opinion!!! Please, for the love of God, tell me you're not an English teacher. Why does he say that the upper management etc if he meant it was his in his opinion? Never in the article does he say it is not an assumption or what he believes to be so or offers his OPINION . Why ?… because it’s their opinion NOT his !! Wellens out !!
Quote from: BobG on November 15, 2021, 03:24:22 pmAnd 1969 didn't give any attribution either. Spouting b*llocks again as if his own tiny mind had made it up...BobGNot sure this level of abuse is really called for. The forum should be more respectful of other opinions. I know Bob G posts a lot on here and has very different views to 1969 but the personal attacks are often started by regular more senior posters. Last week many of us spoke on how good this forum is - we should try and keep the comments/insults to a minimum.
Quote from: Canadian Rover on November 15, 2021, 10:41:18 pmQuote from: BobG on November 15, 2021, 03:24:22 pmAnd 1969 didn't give any attribution either. Spouting b*llocks again as if his own tiny mind had made it up...BobGNot sure this level of abuse is really called for. The forum should be more respectful of other opinions. I know Bob G posts a lot on here and has very different views to 1969 but the personal attacks are often started by regular more senior posters. Last week many of us spoke on how good this forum is - we should try and keep the comments/insults to a minimum. if he Doesn't dish it out it etc etc !!This forums is FULL of it . When a point of view or an opinion begins to attract the opposite views etc it descends to rubbishing it by personal attacks .
No one has to read 1969 posts. Let alone reply to them.