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I think the point SM makes is perfectly valid. There is as yet no viable alternative to the current owners so trying to force them out seems stupid, where does that leave us.It's absolutely though right to question the current setup and funding and I don't necessarily have an issue with doing that at games either, but let's hope those that do attend do act sensibly. I'm not even going to the game but I don't think right now I'd attend a protest either.
My concern would be that it's not just about "spending money", it's the extremely poor decision-making on the football side that needs more urgently addressing, and on the non-football side it would be good to know if there is a plan to sort out the many frankly shoddy things about the club that are alienating fans as well.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 05, 2023, 08:57:51 amI think the point SM makes is perfectly valid. There is as yet no viable alternative to the current owners so trying to force them out seems stupid, where does that leave us.It's absolutely though right to question the current setup and funding and I don't necessarily have an issue with doing that at games either, but let's hope those that do attend do act sensibly. I'm not even going to the game but I don't think right now I'd attend a protest either.If there's no alternative why do Radio Sheffield keep mentioning investors still being interested in the club?
Quote from: danumdon on April 05, 2023, 01:43:56 pmThe thing that i feel gets most going is that its not just about the football being crap just now. There's an air of decomposition all around the club.The ground is starting to look grotty, the catering has been a joke for years, failing infrastructure ie, dusty and dirty concrete walkways and terracing that has not been swept or washed down, broken scoreboard, floodlights that have more defective than working, stadium interior lighting that only comes on occasionally, sharp exposed rivet holes in the back plates on the stadium walls at the back of the stand(i've ruined a decent jacket with it catching on the sharp edge) all the stadium perimeter advertising hoardings look like they have disappeared or fell to bits(lack of commercial performance?)Stadium facilities look very tired, toilets, sports bar, training rooms that are hired out, all look like they need some care and attention..When you look at this overall it just looks like the club is being run on a tight budget and it will no doubt get tighter as our performance on the field continues to go from bad to worse. The fact that supporters are getting nothing like the right level of communication with the club only hammers it home that it looks like a rudderless ship with no one prepared to make the difference.This to me is what is alienating the fans from the club, we could say that during the John Ryan era we were in effect spoiled with the engagement he had with the supporters, no one is expecting this from the current board, but some appreciation that they understand the dire situation we all feel the club is in and that they are working on it, begrudging platitudes from exterior sources is not what's required in this situation the fans would like to hear it from the horses mouth.I well remember back in the early JR days one pre-season they asked for fans to volunteer their help to go and paint the crush barriers, tidy up the terraces and surroundings and the like. I was away at university at the time so couldn't help out but plenty did and it was that sort of "all in it together" spirit that laid the foundations for a really strong symbiotic relationship between the club and the supporters.I would gladly get stuck in with a bucket and sponge or a jet washer to clean 15 years' worth of dust and grime off the seats. I'd happily give the Belle Vue Bar a lick of paint. I'd even be prepared to clean the bogs and fix the locks on the cubicle doors. It might sound very amateur but if come the close season they put out a statement saying something along the lines of:"Enough is enough, standards have slipped too far so we're going to make improvements in all areas. We'll back the (new) manager with a strong transfer budget and we want to make the Eco Power Stadium a home of which we can all be proud so we're asking for a taskforce of supporters to chip in and give the place a makeover. In return those who help out will be rewarded with a £50 voucher to spend on anything at the club from merchandise to tickets or catering."I would jump on that chance to give some extra support as would many others.
The thing that i feel gets most going is that its not just about the football being crap just now. There's an air of decomposition all around the club.The ground is starting to look grotty, the catering has been a joke for years, failing infrastructure ie, dusty and dirty concrete walkways and terracing that has not been swept or washed down, broken scoreboard, floodlights that have more defective than working, stadium interior lighting that only comes on occasionally, sharp exposed rivet holes in the back plates on the stadium walls at the back of the stand(i've ruined a decent jacket with it catching on the sharp edge) all the stadium perimeter advertising hoardings look like they have disappeared or fell to bits(lack of commercial performance?)Stadium facilities look very tired, toilets, sports bar, training rooms that are hired out, all look like they need some care and attention..When you look at this overall it just looks like the club is being run on a tight budget and it will no doubt get tighter as our performance on the field continues to go from bad to worse. The fact that supporters are getting nothing like the right level of communication with the club only hammers it home that it looks like a rudderless ship with no one prepared to make the difference.This to me is what is alienating the fans from the club, we could say that during the John Ryan era we were in effect spoiled with the engagement he had with the supporters, no one is expecting this from the current board, but some appreciation that they understand the dire situation we all feel the club is in and that they are working on it, begrudging platitudes from exterior sources is not what's required in this situation the fans would like to hear it from the horses mouth.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, be careful what you wish for. Those old enough will remember a benefactor who ran the club into the ground and did time for trying to burn down the main stand.COYR
Quote from: Mike_F on April 05, 2023, 02:14:42 pmQuote from: danumdon on April 05, 2023, 01:43:56 pmThe thing that i feel gets most going is that its not just about the football being crap just now. There's an air of decomposition all around the club.The ground is starting to look grotty, the catering has been a joke for years, failing infrastructure ie, dusty and dirty concrete walkways and terracing that has not been swept or washed down, broken scoreboard, floodlights that have more defective than working, stadium interior lighting that only comes on occasionally, sharp exposed rivet holes in the back plates on the stadium walls at the back of the stand(i've ruined a decent jacket with it catching on the sharp edge) all the stadium perimeter advertising hoardings look like they have disappeared or fell to bits(lack of commercial performance?)Stadium facilities look very tired, toilets, sports bar, training rooms that are hired out, all look like they need some care and attention..When you look at this overall it just looks like the club is being run on a tight budget and it will no doubt get tighter as our performance on the field continues to go from bad to worse. The fact that supporters are getting nothing like the right level of communication with the club only hammers it home that it looks like a rudderless ship with no one prepared to make the difference.This to me is what is alienating the fans from the club, we could say that during the John Ryan era we were in effect spoiled with the engagement he had with the supporters, no one is expecting this from the current board, but some appreciation that they understand the dire situation we all feel the club is in and that they are working on it, begrudging platitudes from exterior sources is not what's required in this situation the fans would like to hear it from the horses mouth.I well remember back in the early JR days one pre-season they asked for fans to volunteer their help to go and paint the crush barriers, tidy up the terraces and surroundings and the like. I was away at university at the time so couldn't help out but plenty did and it was that sort of "all in it together" spirit that laid the foundations for a really strong symbiotic relationship between the club and the supporters.I would gladly get stuck in with a bucket and sponge or a jet washer to clean 15 years' worth of dust and grime off the seats. I'd happily give the Belle Vue Bar a lick of paint. I'd even be prepared to clean the bogs and fix the locks on the cubicle doors. It might sound very amateur but if come the close season they put out a statement saying something along the lines of:"Enough is enough, standards have slipped too far so we're going to make improvements in all areas. We'll back the (new) manager with a strong transfer budget and we want to make the Eco Power Stadium a home of which we can all be proud so we're asking for a taskforce of supporters to chip in and give the place a makeover. In return those who help out will be rewarded with a £50 voucher to spend on anything at the club from merchandise to tickets or catering."I would jump on that chance to give some extra support as would many others.Totally agree, been thinking the exact same for a while.
Quote from: danumdon on April 05, 2023, 01:43:56 pmThe thing that i feel gets most going is that its not just about the football being crap just now. There's an air of decomposition all around the club.The ground is starting to look grotty, the catering has been a joke for years, failing infrastructure ie, dusty and dirty concrete walkways and terracing that has not been swept or washed down, broken scoreboard, floodlights that have more defective than working, stadium interior lighting that only comes on occasionally, sharp exposed rivet holes in the back plates on the stadium walls at the back of the stand(i've ruined a decent jacket with it catching on the sharp edge) all the stadium perimeter advertising hoardings look like they have disappeared or fell to bits(lack of commercial performance?)Stadium facilities look very tired, toilets, sports bar, training rooms that are hired out, all look like they need some care and attention..When you look at this overall it just looks like the club is being run on a tight budget and it will no doubt get tighter as our performance on the field continues to go from bad to worse. The fact that supporters are getting nothing like the right level of communication with the club only hammers it home that it looks like a rudderless ship with no one prepared to make the difference.This to me is what is alienating the fans from the club, we could say that during the John Ryan era we were in effect spoiled with the engagement he had with the supporters, no one is expecting this from the current board, but some appreciation that they understand the dire situation we all feel the club is in and that they are working on it, begrudging platitudes from exterior sources is not what's required in this situation the fans would like to hear it from the horses mouth.I well remember back in the early JR days one pre-season they asked for fans to volunteer their help to go and paint the crush barriers, tidy up the terraces and surroundings and the like. I was away at university at the time so couldn't help out but plenty did and it was that sort of "all in it together" spirit that laid the foundations for a really strong symbiotic relationship between the club and the supporters.I would gladly get stuck in with a bucket and sponge or a jet washer to clean 15 years' worth of dust and grime off the seats. I'd happily give the Belle Vue Bar a lick of paint. I'd even be prepared to clean the bogs and fix the locks on the cubicle doors. It might sound very amateur but if come the close season they put out a statement saying something along the lines of:"Enough is enough, standards have slipped too far so we're going to make improvements in all areas. We'll back the (new) manager with a strong transfer budget and we want to make the Eco Power Stadium a home of which we can all be proud so we're asking for a taskforce of supporters to chip in and give the place a makeover. In return those who help out will be rewarded with a £50 voucher to spend on anything at the club from merchandise to tickets or catering."I would jump on that chance to give some extra support as would many others.
Quote from: silent majority on April 04, 2023, 09:17:44 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on April 04, 2023, 09:12:44 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 04, 2023, 11:07:42 amQuote from: Usher down the wing. on April 04, 2023, 10:52:22 amQuote from: silent majority on April 04, 2023, 10:19:07 amWhat a waste of time! I understand the board are out of the country over the Easter break so I’m not sure how effective any demonstration can be to an empty boardroom!!The whole board?The board that’s allegedly working 24/7 to ensure things get better on & off the pitch?I hope they’re all in the same foreign hotel then?No not the whole board.But even still, what’s the point of a demonstration at 1pm when there’s nobody there?Have they gone to head hunt a foreign coach or manager SM They will come back with a youth coach from some Spanish 3rd tier club. That’l fix it. Terrific. Pretty poor attempt at sarcasm there Campsall. What’s got into you lately?Come on SM even you can’t defend what’s going on at present. Where is Blunt. He is supposed to be Chairman of this football club. We are in crisis on the football field and you tell us the board are off to foreign climes. Gone to escape the wrath of the fans at our game on Monday. I have backed this board to the hilt SM on this forum for many years as you will know. But for them to sit back and say nothing, do nothing about the absolute dross this coach has managed to get this group of players to serve up. A coach who says his process is working and his players are buying into it. The more he keeps saying that the worse the performances get. Any other club in the 92 Premier & EFL clubs would have sacked DS after Saturday, no i am wrong, after Crawley and the unbelievable contemptuous clap trap DS came out with after the match. I am at my wits end SM at what is happening to the football club i am passionate about. 85% of the forum members want him out. This is not the Netto brigade on here SM. These are genuine long standing Rovers supporters. Some of us have been supporters for 40/50/60 even 70+ years. This coach has to go NOW He will take this Club into non league football if he is allowed. That in no circumstances should be allowed to happen. It would be criminal to allow that to happen again.
Quote from: Campsall rover on April 04, 2023, 09:12:44 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 04, 2023, 11:07:42 amQuote from: Usher down the wing. on April 04, 2023, 10:52:22 amQuote from: silent majority on April 04, 2023, 10:19:07 amWhat a waste of time! I understand the board are out of the country over the Easter break so I’m not sure how effective any demonstration can be to an empty boardroom!!The whole board?The board that’s allegedly working 24/7 to ensure things get better on & off the pitch?I hope they’re all in the same foreign hotel then?No not the whole board.But even still, what’s the point of a demonstration at 1pm when there’s nobody there?Have they gone to head hunt a foreign coach or manager SM They will come back with a youth coach from some Spanish 3rd tier club. That’l fix it. Terrific. Pretty poor attempt at sarcasm there Campsall. What’s got into you lately?
Quote from: silent majority on April 04, 2023, 11:07:42 amQuote from: Usher down the wing. on April 04, 2023, 10:52:22 amQuote from: silent majority on April 04, 2023, 10:19:07 amWhat a waste of time! I understand the board are out of the country over the Easter break so I’m not sure how effective any demonstration can be to an empty boardroom!!The whole board?The board that’s allegedly working 24/7 to ensure things get better on & off the pitch?I hope they’re all in the same foreign hotel then?No not the whole board.But even still, what’s the point of a demonstration at 1pm when there’s nobody there?Have they gone to head hunt a foreign coach or manager SM They will come back with a youth coach from some Spanish 3rd tier club. That’l fix it. Terrific.
Quote from: Usher down the wing. on April 04, 2023, 10:52:22 amQuote from: silent majority on April 04, 2023, 10:19:07 amWhat a waste of time! I understand the board are out of the country over the Easter break so I’m not sure how effective any demonstration can be to an empty boardroom!!The whole board?The board that’s allegedly working 24/7 to ensure things get better on & off the pitch?I hope they’re all in the same foreign hotel then?No not the whole board.But even still, what’s the point of a demonstration at 1pm when there’s nobody there?
Quote from: silent majority on April 04, 2023, 10:19:07 amWhat a waste of time! I understand the board are out of the country over the Easter break so I’m not sure how effective any demonstration can be to an empty boardroom!!The whole board?The board that’s allegedly working 24/7 to ensure things get better on & off the pitch?I hope they’re all in the same foreign hotel then?
What a waste of time! I understand the board are out of the country over the Easter break so I’m not sure how effective any demonstration can be to an empty boardroom!!
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on April 05, 2023, 05:56:53 pmQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 05, 2023, 08:57:51 amI think the point SM makes is perfectly valid. There is as yet no viable alternative to the current owners so trying to force them out seems stupid, where does that leave us.It's absolutely though right to question the current setup and funding and I don't necessarily have an issue with doing that at games either, but let's hope those that do attend do act sensibly. I'm not even going to the game but I don't think right now I'd attend a protest either.If there's no alternative why do Radio Sheffield keep mentioning investors still being interested in the club?They may simply know more than we do as fans. Personally until I see genuine evidence of an actual change then there isn't evidence of an alternative just a wishlist.I guess there is a question as to what people do want the alternative to be?
Quote from: danumdon on April 05, 2023, 01:43:56 pmThe thing that i feel gets most going is that its not just about the football being crap just now. There's an air of decomposition all around the club.The ground is starting to look grotty, the catering has been a joke for years, failing infrastructure ie, dusty and dirty concrete walkways and terracing that has not been swept or washed down, broken scoreboard, floodlights that have more defective than working, stadium interior lighting that only comes on occasionally, sharp exposed rivet holes in the back plates on the stadium walls at the back of the stand(i've ruined a decent jacket with it catching on the sharp edge) all the stadium perimeter advertising hoardings look like they have disappeared or fell to bits(lack of commercial performance?)Stadium facilities look very tired, toilets, sports bar, training rooms that are hired out, all look like they need some care and attention..When you look at this overall it just looks like the club is being run on a tight budget and it will no doubt get tighter as our performance on the field continues to go from bad to worse. The fact that supporters are getting nothing like the right level of communication with the club only hammers it home that it looks like a rudderless ship with no one prepared to make the difference.This to me is what is alienating the fans from the club, we could say that during the John Ryan era we were in effect spoiled with the engagement he had with the supporters, no one is expecting this from the current board, but some appreciation that they understand the dire situation we all feel the club is in and that they are working on it, begrudging platitudes from exterior sources is not what's required in this situation the fans would like to hear it from the horses mouth.I well remember back in the early JR days one pre-season they asked for fans to volunteer their help to go and paint the crush barriers, tidy up the terraces and surroundings and the like. I was away at university at the time so couldn't help out but plenty did and it was that sort of "all in it together" spirit that laid the foundations for a really strong symbiotic relationship between the club and the supporters.I would gladly get stuck in with a bucket and sponge or a jet washer to clean 15 years' worth of dust and grime off the seats. I'd happily give the Belle Vue Bar a lick of paint. I'd even be prepared to clean the bogs and fix the locks on the cubicle doors. It might sound very amateur but if come the close season they put out a statement saying something along the lines of:"Enough is enough, standards have slipped too far so we're going to make improvements in all areas. We'll back the (new) manager with a strong transfer budget and we want to make the Eco Power Stadium a home of which we can all be proud so we're asking for a taskforce of supporters to chip in and give the place a makeover. In return those who help out will be rewarded with a £50 voucher to spend on anything at the club from merchandise to tickets or catering."I would jump on that chance to give some extra support as would many others.
The protest still going ahead. The police will be no problem as it will be peaceful.The statement this morning was to try to stop the protest is what the organisers are saying, it’s purely hot air and more lies upon lies.Why should we believe them now? The blame lays at David Blunts feet and we need a new chairman next season to wipe the slate clean.The only way we will stop this protest and the protests every game is for David Blunt to resign.
Quote from: donnydogk9 on April 06, 2023, 03:22:35 pmThe protest still going ahead. The police will be no problem as it will be peaceful.The statement this morning was to try to stop the protest is what the organisers are saying, it’s purely hot air and more lies upon lies.Why should we believe them now? The blame lays at David Blunts feet and we need a new chairman next season to wipe the slate clean.The only way we will stop this protest and the protests every game is for David Blunt to resign.Desperate mental gymnastics here to try and stay relevant.
Peaceful but they are hoping to invade the building to get to the Board room, yep even SY finest will soon put a stop to that