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Should Schofield be sacked

Yes
178 (75.7%)
No
57 (24.3%)

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normal rules

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #270 on April 01, 2023, 06:02:07 pm by normal rules »
a crowd of 5993. were there 2000 from crewe?

Official figure mate.
Probably about 4500 in the ground.
Grimsby will more than likely have more in the away end on Easter Monday than there will be in the other three sides.


yep, im aware they count sold STH too.
id like to know the actual figure. im guessing the club knows by turnstile clicks. ?
that would no doubt paint a picture.



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drfchound

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #271 on April 01, 2023, 06:04:55 pm by drfchound »
You can see that the players are scared of making a mistake, which of course makes them make mistakes.
Misplaced passes galore and then they try too hard to be precise which either telegraphs to the opposition where they are trying to pass the ball and it gets cut out or the pass is over hit to try to make sure it gets through.
You also get the feeling that Mitchell and Anderson aren’t happy with the short goal kick routine but they have to continue with it.

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #272 on April 01, 2023, 06:05:06 pm by glosterred »
Can I change my vote to yes please?

Now is the right time for a managerial change, given the length of time it takes the club to appoint a new one. 6 weekish to the end of the season, start the process now to have a new manager in by the end of the season and give him time to clear out the chaff and get new players, they want, in before preseason starts.

We cannot afford once again to keep the manager only to change them in October time when things aren’t going well, leaving the incumbent with players he doesn’t want.


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ForsolongaRover

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #273 on April 01, 2023, 06:36:30 pm by ForsolongaRover »
You can see that the players are scared of making a mistake, which of course makes them make mistakes.
Misplaced passes galore and then they try too hard to be precise which either telegraphs to the opposition where they are trying to pass the ball and it gets cut out or the pass is over hit to try to make sure it gets through.
You also get the feeling that Mitchell and Anderson aren’t happy with the short goal kick routine but they have to continue with it.

Listening to Maxwell on commentary, he consistently placed the blame for conceding goals today and historically on the players, obviously including himself, for failing to execute the coach’s system. It is inculcated that all the goals conceded are the result of individual player errors and not the result of how they had been coached. He also said that it took a long time to learn Schofield’s system which made it difficult for the players coming in for those who were injured.

It may not have occurred to them that if they find difficulty in working and assimilating the  “process”, it may be because it is impracticable.

normal rules

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #274 on April 01, 2023, 06:49:37 pm by normal rules »
if schofield is still here come season end. next season will be terminal.

BigH

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #275 on April 01, 2023, 07:01:39 pm by BigH »
I'm seriously starting to wonder whether DS has been instructed not to incur any win, draw, goal or clean sheet bonuses for the rest of the season.

normal rules

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #276 on April 01, 2023, 07:21:29 pm by normal rules »
a few hrs ago the "no" to sacked was at 54. its now at 55. incredible to think someone else has considered he should stay after recent weeks. and after today.

colincramb

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #277 on April 01, 2023, 07:27:35 pm by colincramb »
How’s this even still a question? It’s abundantly clear the current lot aren’t playing for him (they didn’t play for wellens or mcsheffrey either so they can’t be trusted at all). Having said that, this is the worst overall display we’ve seen since the conference first season

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #278 on April 02, 2023, 12:33:24 am by eastender »
a crowd of 5993. were there 2000 from crewe?

Wait til next season when they cant count the non attending season ticket holders!

Is this a new rule implemented by the EFL

andy didcott

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #279 on April 02, 2023, 07:44:09 am by andy didcott »
Copps and Schofield, both need to go.

Campsall rover

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #280 on April 02, 2023, 08:50:53 am by Campsall rover »
Dickos you have gone very quiet since yesterdays match.

Serious questions.
Do you still think DS should be allowed to carry on as head coach.
Do you trust him to recruit well alongside Copps this summer.
Do you think he will build a team capable of getting promoted next season.
 ??? 

Plumbster

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #281 on April 02, 2023, 12:07:02 pm by Plumbster »
The biggest shock for me yesterday was not that we stuck to the process but just how off the scale weak our front 5 were both in attacking threat and defensive shield- I found myself yearning for Tomlin and Clayton despite their drawbacks.  I do have sympathy with the views that we set ourselves up this way because it genuinely gives us the best chance of getting something, and that no manager could do much better with these players.  I do think two strong midfielders would transform the team and galvanise players like Hurst who atm is so shot he is hiding from the ball.  I think if you take this view you would be inclined to give DS another chance ( if he wants it).If you think the team is massively underachieving because of the manager then DS has to go.  We will only get a more proven manager though if the board can demonstrate they understand the issues and have a plan and funds to address.  Otherwise it is rinse and repeat and we will continue to gamble with our future.

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #282 on April 02, 2023, 12:17:21 pm by Chris Black come back »
If he is insistent on playing three centre backs, then we need 1 or maybe 2 senior centre backs next season, depending on whether he is willing to play Faulkner and Long when needed alongside Anderson and Olowu. Potentially one of these could be Younger if he can recover and gets a deal.

In midfield we need 2 senior central midfielders who have graft and energy.

We then need someone central upfront who can play as focal point of attack.

If Taylor comes back and potentially if Kuleya can be in squad we likely need then just one wider player, to add to Hurst and Molyneux.

A full time right back is obviously on the list.

Plenty will think we need a new senior keeper also.

That’s a total of 8 new senior players this summer.

Lesonthewest

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #283 on April 02, 2023, 12:31:20 pm by Lesonthewest »
How’s this even still a question? It’s abundantly clear the current lot aren’t playing for him (they didn’t play for wellens or mcsheffrey either so they can’t be trusted at all). Having said that, this is the worst overall display we’ve seen since the conference first season

I watched a player running alongside an opponents with absolutely no attempt to challenge him for the ball. It's time.

The Beast

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #284 on April 02, 2023, 12:31:59 pm by The Beast »
You can see that the players are scared of making a mistake, which of course makes them make mistakes.
Misplaced passes galore and then they try too hard to be precise which either telegraphs to the opposition where they are trying to pass the ball and it gets cut out or the pass is over hit to try to make sure it gets through.
You also get the feeling that Mitchell and Anderson aren’t happy with the short goal kick routine but they have to continue with it.

Listening to Maxwell on commentary, he consistently placed the blame for conceding goals today and historically on the players, obviously including himself, for failing to execute the coach’s system. It is inculcated that all the goals conceded are the result of individual player errors and not the result of how they had been coached. He also said that it took a long time to learn Schofield’s system which made it difficult for the players coming in for those who were injured.

It may not have occurred to them that if they find difficulty in working and assimilating the  “process”, it may be because it is impracticable.

I can see the logic in that, a very high percentage of the goals we have conceded have been due to individual errors BUT if the system, style and tactics we are playing are increasing the probability of an individual error, what's the answer?

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #285 on April 02, 2023, 12:46:41 pm by Filo »
I’ll create a fresh poll to see where we are at the present compared with this poll

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #286 on April 02, 2023, 01:09:27 pm by ForsolongaRover »
You can see that the players are scared of making a mistake, which of course makes them make mistakes.
Misplaced passes galore and then they try too hard to be precise which either telegraphs to the opposition where they are trying to pass the ball and it gets cut out or the pass is over hit to try to make sure it gets through.
You also get the feeling that Mitchell and Anderson aren’t happy with the short goal kick routine but they have to continue with it.

Listening to Maxwell on commentary, he consistently placed the blame for conceding goals today and historically on the players, obviously including himself, for failing to execute the coach’s system. It is inculcated that all the goals conceded are the result of individual player errors and not the result of how they had been coached. He also said that it took a long time to learn Schofield’s system which made it difficult for the players coming in for those who were injured.

It may not have occurred to them that if they find difficulty in working and assimilating the  “process”, it may be because it is impracticable.

I can see the logic in that, a very high percentage of the goals we have conceded have been due to individual errors BUT if the system, style and tactics we are playing are increasing the probability of an individual error, what's the answer?

I think there is always someone in the team who may be more responsible than the rest for every goal, but surely this happens whenever any team concedes. What Schofield has managed to do is effectively make individuals feel it is just because of their mistake. The logic is that his process is trusted above all else, so properly executed it cannot fail. The players are brainwashed into believing it, therefore if a goal is conceded a player had failed to function properly within the process! Nonsense of course, but the players are too close to be able to get a proper perspective.

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Re: Should he be sacked?
« Reply #287 on April 02, 2023, 02:48:58 pm by ncRover »
Who did Schofield grow up supporting if he’s a Donny lad?

 

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