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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Filo on July 15, 2022, 11:03:36 am
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For Monday and Tuesday in South Yorkshire
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They were on about how the weather forcast is being used to get people on board with global warming.
They used to use a smiley face for sunny weather now it is a big swathe of red for danger, think of the gas that is being saved, it will make you feel a lot better.
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I've just used this image on another thread ..... can you spot the dog ???
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They were on about how the weather forcast is being used to get people on board with global warming.
They used to use a smiley face for sunny weather now it is a big swathe of red for danger, think of the gas that is being saved, it will make you feel a lot better.
I think breaking the all time temp record for the second time in 5 years is a pretty good signal of global warming.
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Does anyone old enough remember back to 70s & 80s when all the talk was all about the coming ice age and not things getting hotter and hotter? Things have changed ain’t they.
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There's no doubt that there is climate change. There always has been.
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They were on about how the weather forcast is being used to get people on board with global warming.
They used to use a smiley face for sunny weather now it is a big swathe of red for danger, think of the gas that is being saved, it will make you feel a lot better.
WHO was on about this?
Mike Graham?
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This heat that is coming is unusual for sure.
There are parts of the world that deal with this day in day out though. Pretty much all of the Middle East for instance.
We just are not equipped to deal with it are we?
A bit like snow and ice in winter.
We enjoy a temperate climate for 99.9% of the time.
Back to rain on Wednesday.
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For a minute there Filo I thought you were going to tell us that was Arnie’s worst film.
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Acid rain, ozone layer, Donny a seaside town, record hot weather blah blah blah.
My mum was pregnant with me in the summer of 1976,she says it was from May until end of September.
I remember the six weeks holidays as a kid being scorching every year.
Watching euro 88 and Italia 90 absolutely dripping.
Who remembers FA cup final says being red hot in May?
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Acid rain, ozone layer, Donny a seaside town, record hot weather blah blah blah.
My mum was pregnant with me in the summer of 1976,she says it was from May until end of September.
I remember the six weeks holidays as a kid being scorching every year.
Watching euro 88 and Italia 90 absolutely dripping.
Who remembers FA cup final says being red hot in May?
Not temperatures in the high 30’s centigrade though Nudga.
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35 in 1976 Gloucester in July
37 in Gloucester late August 1990
38 Kent 2003
36 in Northamptonshire 1911
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here's some more
''Over the last 60 years the UK’s climate has been shifting because of climate change.
However analysis by the Met Office reveals that the shift hasn’t been even across the UK with some regions experiencing more rapid change than others.
Comparing two 30-year periods (1961-1990 and 1991-2020), the average temperature of the UK has increased by 0.8°C, rainfall by 7.3%, and sunshine by 5.6%.
Temperature rise has been greatest across parts of central and eastern England where temperatures have increased by more than 1.0°C in some locations including, Bedfordshire, and Leicestershire. While further north Scotland and Northern Ireland have seen temperatures rise by closer to 0.7°C''
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2021/9120-new-climate-normal#:~:text=Comparing%20two%2030%2Dyear%20periods,%2C%20and%20sunshine%20by%205.6%25.
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Can we talk about how hot it was for the dinosaurs and how big they were and how much vegetation and huge trees there were. If only they'd have adjusted the boiler thermostat a couple of degrees lower and cycled to work instead of driving. Selfish bas**rd s those T Rexs.
Are we still technically coming out of the ice age?
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Yep, as soon as you show proof that my post is incorrect nudga, knock yourself out.
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Yep, as soon as you show proof that my post is incorrect nudga, knock yourself out.
If I was engaging your last post, I would have quoted you.
I merely posed a couple of questions to get the old grey matter juicing..
Not saying your post is incorrect anyway, but again, are we still coming out of the old ice age? We know weather events are cyclical.
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Ah, I see, can you answer a question that sort of determines whether there is a reasonable conversation to be had or just give up on it.
Do you accept that we (man) have had a direct effect on rising global temps and we can change the future by the majority of countries in the world taking action?
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I'm glad we had a little rain and grey cloud this morning, at least it's kept the temperatures down a bit before the heat rolls in.
Down south I think it's been pretty much wall to wall sunshine all week, so the ground will be very dry and warm already.
Hopefully in Yorkshire we will get away with a couple of hot days and difficult nights before the weather breaks and it rains on Wednesday. Hot but not too exceptional, fingers crossed.
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People moan about being too hot over here before jetting off to Spain, Turkey, Sharm.
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I avoid holidays in those sun traps, I'm too fair and I can't take the heat. I'm not overly thrilled at the prospect of regular Egyptian style heatwaves during UK summers.
That looks like what it's coming to though.
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I avoid holidays in those sun traps, I'm too fair and I can't take the heat. I'm not overly thrilled at the prospect of regular Egyptian style heatwaves during UK summers.
That looks like what it's coming to though.
Just temporarily maybe. It's more likely our UK weather will get wetter and even more temperate. And then at some point the gulf stream will go leaving us in much much colder temperatures. Swings and roundabouts... or umbrellas and winter tyres with snow chains and studs?
All that is not so true for some parts of the world though. Sydney to become a firepit?
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Do you think the Rotherham game could be called off or put back to Wednesday as the temperature will still be 33 degrees at 7pm on Tuesday,sitting in the east stand will be horrible to watch the match with sun in your eyes as well
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Remember Orient ?
Never been as hot in Footy Ground before
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I've just used this image on another thread ..... can you spot the dog ???
Yes a Golden Retriever.
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15 degrees cooler in North Scotland on said days
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Remember Orient ?
Never been as hot in Footy Ground before
That was the hottest day ever I can remember,stood on that terrace with no shade
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No Billy Al Jazeera, I suggest you widen your horrisons.
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Got to say, come mid winter and an evening kick off and it's effing freezing we will be looking back on these coming high temperatures and wishing to have some of that heat back.
COYR
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I blame Boris.
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35 in 1976 Gloucester in July
37 in Gloucester late August 1990
38 Kent 2003
36 in Northamptonshire 1911
Gosh you got around a lot, wonder what the temperatures were in Donny though
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People moan about being too hot over here before jetting off to Spain, Turkey, Sharm.
But that's a choice people make, not everyone is forced to go to a 35c+ climate, some would prefer to go to somewhere milder. Also, those countries have infrastructure designed for that heat, we don't.
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Go and stand in the freezer isles in Morrisons or Tesco.
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Try not to complain about the heat myself i absolutely hate our winters too much. We just need to adjust the way we live in the heat as much as we can.
My girlfriend is a reception teacher and with a class of 30 in an non air-conditioned class room it's madness to have the children in when its this hot. They learn nothing and bear in mind the classroom will always be 3-4 degrees hotter than outside. Hotter countries are better equipped having regularly having to live with the heat.
On the climate change generally it's madness people will still say it's not real. If the weather was always getting to this level as regularly as it is now buildings from decades ago would have been designed to better deal with it like in foreign countries. The fact they weren't just shows this isn't normal.
And don't give me the climate change is real but it's always happened can't prove it's man made etc etc. What kind of self destructive attitude to life that is. Even if you question the scientific evidence unless you can categorically say there is 0% chance of man made climate change we should try to reverse it. Given the potential impacts if the science is right (which it is) it's not worth the gamble of hoping this is natural.
If anyone hasn't watch Don't Look Up on Netflix that pretty much shows how people who deny climate change are acting right now.
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despite the heat, the UV levels for uk are showing as High.
We’ve just got back from a week in caper Verde, where we have been a few times. The uv there is always high, and quite often very high or even Extreme.
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1976 marching round a parade square in the Forces. as a little un if it got hot in the classroom we all got took outside for lessons on the field I get the impression the biggest problem is a lack of common sense
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Bit of context for our 1976ers.
https://mobile.twitter.com/willnorman/status/1548547271725240323
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I’m not denying climate change or the contribution of man to it (although there are likely other factors we don’t yet understand).
But the vast majority of temperature related deaths globally are from the cold.
Yes we need to do something about the climate but we can’t tear up our economic gains of the last 100 years (of which have made life on the planet for us infinitely better for everyone) just like that. But we also need to look after the planet better and pollute less for our health and for other species’.
Nuclear is the best option but the majority of climate activists don’t endorse it for some reason. We need to set an example for developing countries to follow in the coming decades of which actually offers a practical solution. Yes developing countries need to do their bit but only a rich country can afford clean energy.
Sensationalist reporting from the media contributes to people’s skepticism (see covid).
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I'm just grateful it's not snowing.
I'd hate to be shovelling snow in all this heat!
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Runway at RAF Brize Norton has melted
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I’m not denying climate change or the contribution of man to it (although there are likely other factors we don’t yet understand).
But the vast majority of temperature related deaths globally are from the cold.
Yes we need to do something about the climate but we can’t tear up our economic gains of the last 100 years (of which have made life on the planet for us infinitely better for everyone) just like that. But we also need to look after the planet better and pollute less for our health and for other species’.
Nuclear is the best option but the majority of climate activists don’t endorse it for some reason. We need to set an example for developing countries to follow in the coming decades of which actually offers a practical solution. Yes developing countries need to do their bit but only a rich country can afford clean energy.
Sensationalist reporting from the media contributes to people’s skepticism (see covid).
Aren't China and India the biggest users of solar power?
We need to have a mixture of energy sources, the situation with Russia has shown that just relying on one leaves yourself hostage to whoever has the raw material for it.
We are an island - why aren't we utilising tidal power? And investing in hydrogen - which is apparently the cheapest.
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Runway at RAF Brize Norton has melted
Not for the first time, Luton runway has melted as well
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Bit of context for our 1976ers.
https://mobile.twitter.com/willnorman/status/1548547271725240323
And a bit of context for you. Yes, these temperatures are hotter than in 1976, but that heatwave lasted for 4 months, and bleached gardens, fields, and cricket grounds.
There's never been a heatwave since, in this country, that's lasted that long.
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I did a month Outward bound at Aberdovey in 1976, loved it! But it was uncomfortable at times and we never slept indoors The Sea schilling pRt of it was ace but up in the Mountains you couldn’t drink the Water as what little there was had sheep shit in it!
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Reminds me of Don Valley end of year school camp 1967 at Goathland, packing up on last day having taken all the tents and marquees down I was parched. Only water was the river scrambled down had a good swig looked upstream and saw a dead sheep in the water, never tasted anything else like it till I tried a pint of Shipstones, it had the same effect
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Bit of context for our 1976ers.
https://mobile.twitter.com/willnorman/status/1548547271725240323
And a bit of context for you. Yes, these temperatures are hotter than in 1976, but that heatwave lasted for 4 months, and bleached gardens, fields, and cricket grounds.
There's never been a heatwave since, in this country, that's lasted that long.
Big deep breath...
Have a look again at that link I posted. And look at the whole world, not just Britain.
Think: "climate". Not: "weather".
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Posted below for ease of viewing.
In 1976 there was a small change in the movement of the Gulf Stream that dragged up hot air from North Africa and sat over the UK for weeks.
Today - the world is on fire. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. The world is on fire:
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They are expecting record breaking temperatures in Scotland too. Tuesday could see the thermometer hitting an unprecedented 16c. Some are even considering turning the central heating off!
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Posted below for ease of viewing.
In 1976 there was a small change in the movement of the Gulf Stream that dragged up hot air from North Africa and sat over the UK for weeks.
Today - the world is on fire. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. The world is on fire:
Next slide please.
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They are expecting record breaking temperatures in Scotland too. Tuesday could see the thermometer hitting an unprecedented 16c. Some are even considering turning the central heating off!
No way would a Scotsman even consider turning on the gas with the temperature above -2.
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I’m not a climate change denier, but I do feel it important to point out that ‘Don’t Look Up’ is fiction. Like ‘2012’ or ‘Planet of the Apes’.
The way some people appear to be using it as some sort of scientific proof that we will soon be extinct is a bit silly.
I enjoyed it, all the same.
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Bit of context for our 1976ers.
https://mobile.twitter.com/willnorman/status/1548547271725240323
And a bit of context for you. Yes, these temperatures are hotter than in 1976, but that heatwave lasted for 4 months, and bleached gardens, fields, and cricket grounds.
There's never been a heatwave since, in this country, that's lasted that long.
Big deep breath...
Have a look again at that link I posted. And look at the whole world, not just Britain.
Think: "climate". Not: "weather".
Billy. You seem to be taking more and more deep breaths before replying just lately. Be careful - especially in this weather - we wouldn’t want you passing out or anything.
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''Court orders UK government to explain how net zero policies will reach targets
Green activists brought challenge, arguing climate change strategy did not spell out how carbon emissions cuts would be achieved''
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/18/court-orders-uk-government-to-explain-how-net-zero-policies-will-reach-targets
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Today showing why the people saying things like "People go abroad for this weather", etc are daft. Like I said earlier in the thread our infrastructure isn't designed for this weather.
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In 76 it never got above 35.9c
Over 40 is a whole new ball game.
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Liked this
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Bit of context for our 1976ers.
https://mobile.twitter.com/willnorman/status/1548547271725240323
And a bit of context for you. Yes, these temperatures are hotter than in 1976, but that heatwave lasted for 4 months, and bleached gardens, fields, and cricket grounds.
There's never been a heatwave since, in this country, that's lasted that long.
Big deep breath...
Have a look again at that link I posted. And look at the whole world, not just Britain.
Think: "climate". Not: "weather".
Billy. You seem to be taking more and more deep breaths before replying just lately. Be careful - especially in this weather - we wouldn’t want you passing out or anything.
That's because he gets frustrated when someone on here dares not to agree with his every word.
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Posted below for ease of viewing.
In 1976 there was a small change in the movement of the Gulf Stream that dragged up hot air from North Africa and sat over the UK for weeks.
Today - the world is on fire. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. The world is on fire:
Quite surprised re the Guardian headline ''A wake up call'' only if you haven't been paying attention, these fires, megafires have been occurring in the US, Spain, Oz ........... etc for some time. And the floods, the melting glaciers, the thawing going on in Siberia .........
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Posted below for ease of viewing.
In 1976 there was a small change in the movement of the Gulf Stream that dragged up hot air from North Africa and sat over the UK for weeks.
Today - the world is on fire. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. The world is on fire:
Quite surprised re the Guardian headline ''A wake up call'' only if you haven't been paying attention, these fires, megafires have been occurring in the US, Spain, Oz ........... etc for some time. And the floods, the melting glaciers, the thawing going on in Siberia .........
All of which would continue if we magically stopped every carbon emission tomorrow.
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Posted below for ease of viewing.
In 1976 there was a small change in the movement of the Gulf Stream that dragged up hot air from North Africa and sat over the UK for weeks.
Today - the world is on fire. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. The world is on fire:
Quite surprised re the Guardian headline ''A wake up call'' only if you haven't been paying attention, these fires, megafires have been occurring in the US, Spain, Oz ........... etc for some time. And the floods, the melting glaciers, the thawing going on in Siberia .........
All of which would continue if we magically stopped every carbon emission tomorrow.
So, let's do nothing then.
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Posted below for ease of viewing.
In 1976 there was a small change in the movement of the Gulf Stream that dragged up hot air from North Africa and sat over the UK for weeks.
Today - the world is on fire. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. The world is on fire:
Quite surprised re the Guardian headline ''A wake up call'' only if you haven't been paying attention, these fires, megafires have been occurring in the US, Spain, Oz ........... etc for some time. And the floods, the melting glaciers, the thawing going on in Siberia .........
All of which would continue if we magically stopped every carbon emission tomorrow.
So, let's do nothing then.
If you look at my previous post you’ll see that that isn’t my viewpoint.
This is a balancing act. Going net zero too quick, especially in light of the Russia situation would freeze and starve people to death in a cold European winter (far more than would die if the world got 0.5C hotter).
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Back to some sort of normal for tonight’s game. Light rain and a mild 18c . Tomorrows highs not going above 19 all day.