Trump and democracy

[Bentley Bullet]

My post was in response to DonnyWolf's post regarding PR. I was interested in his views on such a system being used in the EU. I wasn't suggesting I supported it!

[SydneyRover]

No one does

[Glyn_Wigley]

That's the article I got my info from!

...and couldn't be arsed to give a link to.

[Bentley Bullet]

Correct! I copied and pasted the figures instead.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Shame you didn't read past what you copied and pasted then.

[idler]

I'll be glad when the dinner bell goes and we can get back in school.😳

[SydneyRover]

Washington Post

''The CDC’s contact tracing agency was not mobilized, and in areas where he held events in recent days, local officials said they haven’t heard from the White House''

Nothing to see here, apparently

[BillyStubbsTears]

Whether or not Trump is seriously ill, his team continues its pushing of bullshit on the American people.

They reckon he has (heroically, from his deathbed/easily cos he's so strong and not ill*) been in the office at the hospital, working on Govt business. Signing docume...actually,signing blank sheets of paper apparently.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1312586796711149569

*Delete according to preference and choose your own reality.

[SydneyRover]

Just finished watching the middle two episodes of Watergate and the similarities of Nixon/trump firing people to save his skin are bizarre. I only ever knew the outline of the story the detail is boggling.

You can see where trump got his blueprint from.

[SydneyRover]

This sums up the sutuation in Washington at present

''White House grinds to a halt as Trump's press chief joins Covid-infected list''

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/05/white-house-trump-coronavirus-covid-kayleigh-mcenany

[BillyStubbsTears]

Say what you like about the Tories. At least they were secretive and subtle when they directed that Towns Fund money away from safe Labour seats and towards marginals they wanted to win last December.

No such subtlety from Trump.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313551795646541824

"Vote for me and I'll leave Democrat states to rot and save YOUR livelihood."

What an utter moral vacuum that piece of shit is.

[Donnywolf]

... and they are being criticised for their Lock down procedure as well dont forget as several of their Constituencies are not locked down despite the stats say they are "more virus ridden" than some IN lockdown

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/no-coronavirus-lockdown-for-top-tory-constituencies-rqtkhxm8s

I have no clue if this is true but why would "The Thunderer" draw attention to it ?

And to conclude is the above Trumps version of levelling up ?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Just in case anyone is still in any doubt about the utter inhumanity at the core of Trump's original gang, read this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/06/us/politics/family-separation-border-immigration-jeff-sessions-rod-rosenstein.html#click=https://t.co/VaZ0RZQ6Rb

Simply sickening.

[SydneyRover]

Yep and this data mining company is an enabler

''Palantir has no place at Berkeley: they help tear immigrant families apart''

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/31/palantir-berkeley-immigrant-families-apart

[SydneyRover]

I'm betting Melania has the door locked at the moment 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yep and this data mining company is an enabler

''Palantir has no place at Berkeley: they help tear immigrant families apart''

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/31/palantir-berkeley-immigrant-families-apart

Ouch

Professor Tolkien would certainly be turning in his grave to see one of his words used by a company like that. I wonder what his children and estate think of it - are Tolkien's creations trademarked?

On a related note, a few days ago Seth Abramson, in response the an article in the Washington Post that Trump wants his giant wall painted black and with huge gates in it, commented 'there is a legitimate argument to be made that Trump has more in common with Sauron than with Eisenhower'   

[Metalmicky]

Seen a post (on another site) showing the ballot papers being sent out for the US election.........  fook 

[Metalmicky]

Kanye West anyone..? 

Question is...... could he be any worse?

[BillyStubbsTears]

No MM. It's true. Donald Trump really IS running for President.

[wilts rover]

The endorsement we have all been waiting for:

Taliban supports Trump for President

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1314973971583053824

[Dutch Uncle]

The endorsement we have all been waiting for:

Taliban supports Trump for President

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1314973971583053824

The saying 'Judge a man by the company he keeps' has never been more apposite

[SydneyRover]

Cured immune, what a man.

The danger is great as many think they have had the virus and some of his fans may think they are also immune without actually having ever being tested.

[SydneyRover]

Three weeks out, poll averages.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/wisconsin/

[Dagenham Rover]

Cured immune, what a man.

The danger is great as many think they have had the virus and some of his fans may think they are also immune without actually having ever being tested.

The blokes as mad as a box of frogs    I quite liked him to start with    Just shows what my judgements like     about the same as my Super 6 predictions   

[BillyStubbsTears]

DR.

He's not mad. He is genuinely evil. He's in this for no other reason than his own vanity and his own pockets. He will sacrifice anyone and anything to satisfy those two needs.

My abiding fear now is what he does when he loses next month and faces ruin, both psychologically and financially. Because for 100 days after he loses, he's still the most powerful man on the planet. And he has nothing left to live for.

[Donnywolf]

Cured immune, what a man.

The danger is great as many think they have had the virus and some of his fans may think they are also immune without actually having ever being tested.

The blokes as mad as a box of frogs    I quite liked him to start with    Just shows what my judgements like     about the same as my Super 6 predictions   

DR - (the old joke coming) I think thats a bit unkind on frogs

I never liked him - but theres no correlation between Super 6 because even though I disliked him and now dislike him tremendously (installing him in 2nd place in the list of people I really dislike without ever having met them - he has overtaken Han-cog) my Super6 predictions are crap too

I think BST is close to nailing him though. He is a bloke that's wanted the power of that Office and all the benefits it can generate for him , his family and "associates" and now he has it he has become "bigger than the Office itself"

If he loses and I dont think thats a given watch for the legal challenges to the Vote - and ways for him to stay in Office

If he wins, watch for a worsening - if its possible - of this almost dictatorship style of ruling AND watch for him trying to alter the Constitution so he can get "4 more years" - and I would think he deffo introduce that autocratically if he could

Personally I hope enough of the USA voters prevail and we see those shenanigens and the toys getting chucked out of his pram because I am sure he is one big bully & spoilt kid used to NOTHING but getting his own way - and I would love it - love it - and might move him back below Han-cog.

Now wheres my Super6 for this week ?

[SydneyRover]

latest polls of swing seats popular vote

the Guardian is talking about a daunting lead for Biden.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/14/us-election-polls-tracker-who-is-leading-swing-states-donald-trump-joe-biden

[Donnywolf]

the Guardian is talking about a daunting lead for Biden.

Better than a "haunting" lead for Trump

Dont write him off yet though - even if he loses he will be bleating on about cheating.

Democrats may as well cheat cos he will say they have !

[BillyStubbsTears]

He's definitely going to challenge the result when he loses. And that is when it gets scary. I expect him to lose by a long way on the Electoral College votes. There will be precious little doubt that he's really lost. But he will claim there is an issue with postal ballots. And it'll go to the Supreme Court. Where he will have packed it with Conservative Republicans once the current one is sworn in.

Dangerous possibilities there...a President who has lost, potentially being supported by the SC. With anger at breaking point in both sides of the population. I've said before, that is how civil wars start.

[idler]

I was in a shop owned by an American in Bradford on Saturday.
I felt like I was in a different universe.
He trotted out Obama was a gay Bornean Kenya, Michelle Obama was a trans and their children were adopted and provided by the CIA.
Trump was elected as he was the only honest politician and doesn't take his presidential salary just minimum expenses and gives the rest to US Army vets. All of this will come out very soon and be sure to watch out for Red October, it's coming.
I left the shop almost in a daze but how many Republicans in the US actually believe this crap. The big worry is how many carry guns and when you look at some of the private weaponry it's frightening.