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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on November 24, 2021, 11:31:53 am
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The third of four away games coming after a disappointing game at Bolton (we again got a team out of sorts back up and running) and now we hit a team that had not had a win in four up to last night but got back on track with a comprehensive 4-0 win v Accrington, so will be full of confidence meeting us when we could be even more depleted through the suspension of Owulu.
This is a big problem, do we play Rowe as an emergency central defender, or throw Blythe or Faulkner in. whoever does play will have his hands full against Jebbison on loan from Sheffield United and strongly wanted by supporters in the know here in pre season and looks like he would have been a good shout, And Smith who also cracked two in v Accrington.
So they have got what we have not, players who know where the onion bag is. Last nights game I cannot comment on the first half not seeing it, so missed the good bit, what I did see was lots of effort by ten men, but desperate play with no ambition or ability going forward. The work rate could not be faulted, attacking ability and controlled football were completely missing,Bolton at times,no great team themselves, looked two divisions higher quality than we did.
Now we have to put it behind us and start all over again and try to put a little unbeaten run of results together.
Are we capable of doing that?
I would gamble on Faulkner playing, would you?
Are any of our walking wounded likely to be fit enough to start?
Are we capable of challenging Burton for the points?
Are we capable of looking dangerous in the oppositions penalty area?
Lots to discuss about this game, please have your say.
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One thing about being the author of these threads, I get about a thousand more hits to read the thread when we lose than when we manage to get a draw or rarely a win. Funny that, losing must inspire people to read about the Rovers I suppose, I wonder what they do when we do rarely win a game?
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Hopefully the red card is overturned and we have Close, Jordy and Gary back.
Can’t wait until Seaman is back fit to put some pressure on Knoyle who has largely disappointed me so far.
I’d give Barlow another run out as he’s impressed over the last couple of games
Can’t see that Jones has done much wrong in goal so as he currently has the shirt I’d stick with him, however I think he might be back on the bench. From what I’ve seen of Faulkner and Blythe I would have one of those in (assuming the red card stands) to let Rowe play further forward
Hopefully our forwards have shooting practice between now and the game
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Burton have a good home record in the league. Played 10, won 5, drawn 2, lost 3. They’ve beaten Sunderland, Portsmouth and Ipswich at home. They do concede though. Only two clean sheets at home this season.
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I see us getting a point from this game.
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I have some magic beans for you Sammy.
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Hoping for a change in fortune at the Pirelli to shrug off our away hoodoo. Backed by plenty of Rovers fans on the terrace behind the goal. Love terracing me.
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We drew 3-3 at Burton (I think) at a similar time of the season last time we got relegated from League 1.
I'd take 3 shots on goal this time round.
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I have some magic beans for you Sammy.
Cheers I will plant them later on
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Rovers were very very good for the first 35 minutes at Bolton, and if Taylor had taken that chance, who knows what might have happened.
The fact is, he didn't and once again we conceded poor goals and that was that.
The problems we have are not scoring and then giving away poor goals.
Which is a recipe for disaster.
I can't see things changing anytime soon.
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Me neither even though we played really well as you say - and goals change games - if JT scores who knows
If the Red was a Yellow we may have still got something out of it but we will never know
At least the 35 mins gave me heart :scarf: Better hang on till team announced b4 doing PvO as well
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One thing about being the author of these threads, I get about a thousand more hits to read the thread when we lose than when we manage to get a draw or rarely a win. Funny that, losing must inspire people to read about the Rovers I suppose, I wonder what they do when we do rarely win a game?
It'd be nice to get the chance to find out!
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Before the Lincoln game we needed an average win loss and a draw every three games to keep us safe. 4 points from every 9. So with a draw against Lincoln and a loss against Bolton, a win would be nice. Anything else starts making it increasingly difficult to see survival. Barring a win streak of course.
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Rovers were very very good for the first 35 minutes at Bolton, and if Taylor had taken that chance, who knows what might have happened.
The fact is, he didn't and once again we conceded poor goals and that was that.
The problems we have are not scoring and then giving away poor goals.
Which is a recipe for disaster.
I can't see things changing anytime soon.
To be fair Bolton’s 2nd goal was a very good cross in that corridor between defenders and goal keeper so was extremely difficult to defend.
The 3rd goal was a bit of a fluke as it rebounded off Brandon Horton onto the net.
Tuesday was no where as near as bad as 3-0 suggests. We are in fact looking much more solid at the back and it was just one of those nights where it just all went wrong for us.
We just have to be much more clinical in front of goal. We can’t miss chances like the Taylor miss and expect to win football matches.
Next few games up to the new year are now becoming critical. We cannot afford to be adrift at the half way mark.
The Shrewsbury game is looking almost like a must win game next month.
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The red card was never a red card but it won’t get overturned. Not sure who we’ll play at the back, I’d be tempted to put Tommy Rowe there, with too lightweight full backs and an inexperienced keeper, just to talk and organise.
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2 wins and a draw from next 5 games needed or we are in serious trouble.
That gives us 20 points at the half way mark. I was hoping for 23 before the Lincoln game as was hoping for 4 points from those 2 games and we only got 1
Accrington have gone off the boil so that gave Burton the opportunity to find some form on Tuesday. Previous to that game they lost 4 league games on the bounce.
We need to start on the front foot as we did at Bolton. Goals win games so it is simple we must take our chances and be clinical. First goal is massive it does visibly lift the team.
This is a game we can win. Not saying we will but we can. Let’s believe and let’s be that 12th man on Saturday. The support the fans give is so important now it really is.
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Oh and where were Burton this time last season. They looked completely doomed and ended up mid table.
Where were Barnsley a few years ago. They got promoted.
All is not lost is it. Backs to the wall spirit required from the players and US the fans. More of that noise we had at Saturday v Lincoln needed.
Come on Rovers we can do this. Belief Belief. Anything can be achieved if you believe. :that:
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Ah yes Burton. Great example. Well done.
They changed their manager didn’t they???? New manager installed on New Year’s Day. Giving him the transfer window to put things right. Just saying like.
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Ah yes Burton. Great example. Well done.
They changed their manager didn’t they???? New manager installed on New Year’s Day. Giving him the transfer window to put things right. Just saying like.
Right so we change manager. Wh do you think we should appoint? Serious question.
He will still have the same players to work with until The Jan window. In January RW will have the opportunity to bring in some new faces hopefully, just the same as any new manager will.
So please tell me what is the benefit of changing the manager and causing yet more upheaval and disruption.
For heavens sake RW has only been in the job 6 months. He has had one window only to completely rebuild the squad which he was not able to do because of financial restraints.
He has only just started on this rebuilding job at Rovers and we are having people wanting to change manager. Madness imo.
Sorry if people, and this is not having a go at you specifically Cramby, if they can’t see that the problem we have is the constant change in manager we have had since DF left, and what we need now is the stability in that role then quite frankly i despair.
Give Wellens time to build this team. If we go down we go down ok. I don’t want to go down and would consider it a big set back but it is not the end of the world. Sometimes you have to take a step back before moving forward.
Anyway that said i firmly believe we can still stay up this season under Wellens. 28 games to play that’s a lot of football.
If we can muster 7 points from the next 5 games then I believe with 2/3 of players with experience of this league, a striker as one of course then we can move forward.
There are quite a few poor teams in this league and i am convinced there are more than 4 who will prove to be worse than us come the end of April.
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This game is actually quite important before the cup again. Burton in the form table have 6pts from 6 games, same as us. We need to start winning games against teams like this to have any chance of staying up.
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Maybe these were the same discussions that Burton fans were having? I don’t know. But it worked for them, clearly. It was your example, not mine.
Trouble with Wellens is, is that he’s now going to have to rebuild his rebuild already because in general, he’s signed dross. I’m genuinely appalled by the standard of player he’s brought in. And I don’t want him pissing any more money up the wall.
I say this as someone who was very excited by Wellens appointment as he was definitely my first choice. However he comes across as an abrasive arse with no plan who constantly deflects blame away from himself and takes no responsibility. He’s not someone I’d like to play for.
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Ok so just say we give Richie until after the Christmas period. If we are still adrift then replace him. If we are out of the bottom 4 then keep him. That's reasonable IMO.
He has a chance to improve in the next month as currently he is underperforming. He can take that chance or not. Starting with this game at Burton on Saturday.
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Cramby which players are you appalled with please
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Williams, knoyle, Hiwula, Dodoo, cukur, smith, Gardner and Barlow.
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Williams, knoyle, Hiwula, Dodoo, cukur, smith, Gardner and Barlow.
Williams kicks a football as though his shoelaces are tied together so agree there. He's lower league 2 standard at best.
Knoyle i thought was half decent when i first saw him a few times but he's fast becoming a liability. Got loads of pace getting forward but doesn't produce anything and can't defend. Not good enough.
Hiwula is a natural finisher and will do better in a side that actually creates chance for him but he doesn't move, doesn't work hard and doesn't score either. Not good enough.
Dodoo's scoring record in the league since joining us speaks for itself and is why he's not made anything of himself at any club thus far. League 2 standard.
Gardner is lucky to still have any sort of career. Awful.
Cukur isn't worth mentioning without laughing.
Smith is busy and works hard and i don't dislike him, just that he just doesn't really quite make the grade for me.
Barlow the jury is out. Like to see more of him. He did fade against Bolton after a bright start but played well against Lincoln so can't judge Barlow at the moment.
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Williams, knoyle, Hiwula, Dodoo, cukur, smith, Gardner and Barlow.
Williams has been a disappointment agreed. Expected him to be better than he has been.
Knoyle was very highly rated at Cambridge and was in the League 2 team of the season. Championship clubs were interested in him. Yes I believe he has underperformed with us so far. Reason we are not winning and it’s all about self belief and confidence.
Hiwula was a decent player at Coventry in this league and was on paper a decent signing allowing for the budget RW had. Yes same a Knoyle he has underperformed, same reasons imo.
Dodoo was available and RW had not got the budget to get better at the time then the Griggs/O’Brien saga left us with him as our main striker. Yes not what we need but he is improving.
Barlow looks a good prospect. He needs a run of games.
Smith is inexperienced and probably not at the level required. Curkur the same not good enough yet for this level of football.
Gardener just not good enough end of imo.
Dahlberg ( Sweden no 2 keeper ) Close and Galbraith all excellent signings.
You have got to give RW some slack based on his summer budget. He will have more to spend in the next windows.
I don’t remember Alex Ferguson getting all his transfer recruiting right. No manager does.
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Williams agree with, Cukur has been thrown in due to circumstances. Knoyle was in the team of the year last season. Gardener played out of position and whilst injured. Smith and Barlow are playing well. Hiwula has been ok but suffered from injury. Dodoo I’m unsure of but has been held in high regard by former fans
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roversdude we are wasting our time looking for the positives. There are some on here who have thrown in the towel already. Only want to see negatives and quite frankly have not got the bottle for a relegation scrap.
Fortunately there are others like us who are the opposite and will always look for positives even in a negative situation.
As long as RW and all the coaches and players have that belief and positivity then we have every chance. I believe they have.
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CR I’ve seen enough to believe we will not be in the relegation places come the end of the season. We have a decent squad and other than one player I think RW recruited well.
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roversdude we are wasting our time looking for the positives. There are some on here who have thrown in the towel already. Only want to see negatives and quite frankly have not got the bottle for a relegation scrap.
Fortunately there are others like us who are the opposite and will always look for positives even in a negative situation.
As long as RW and all the coaches and players have that belief and positivity then we have every chance. I believe they have.
Jesus H. Have you heard yourself?
If i turn up to every home game and you do too. Then who has not got the bottle? Neither of us. Because we don't affect the actual games and therefore results. Such a pointless thing to say when we as fans can only turn up regardless.
If i was the ultimate of positive thinkers then it still would not affect whether we go down or stay up. Because we are no the ones playing football!! :facepalm: :facepalm:
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roversdude we are wasting our time looking for the positives. There are some on here who have thrown in the towel already. Only want to see negatives and quite frankly have not got the bottle for a relegation scrap.
Fortunately there are others like us who are the opposite and will always look for positives even in a negative situation.
As long as RW and all the coaches and players have that belief and positivity then we have every chance. I believe they have.
Jesus H. Have you heard yourself?
If i turn up to every home game and you do too. Then who has not got the bottle? Neither of us. Because we don't affect the actual games and therefore results. Such a pointless thing to say when we as fans can only turn up regardless.
If i was the ultimate of positive thinkers then it still would not affect whether we go down or stay up. Because we are no the ones playing football!! :facepalm: :facepalm:
Great that’s ok then. Let’s all be negative. Great if every post was doom and gloom.
Well your wrong the supporters do have a part to play. Positivity from fans feeds over to the players.
Don’t tell me no football players ever go on football forums because I don’t believe that for one minute.
They probably are not encouraged to visit them for obvious reasons. Reading some of your posts and 1969’s posts for a start.
We as fans have a huge part to play in the teams success, we may not be the ones kicking the ball but don’t underestimate the influence supporters have on their team.
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The third of four away games coming after a disappointing game at Bolton (we again got a team out of sorts back up and running) and now we hit a team that had not had a win in four up to last night but got back on track with a comprehensive 4-0 win v Accrington, so will be full of confidence meeting us when we could be even more depleted through the suspension of Owulu.
This is a big problem, do we play Rowe as an emergency central defender, or throw Blythe or Faulkner in. whoever does play will have his hands full against Jebbison on loan from Sheffield United and strongly wanted by supporters in the know here in pre season and looks like he would have been a good shout, And Smith who also cracked two in v Accrington.
So they have got what we have not, players who know where the onion bag is. Last nights game I cannot comment on the first half not seeing it, so missed the good bit, what I did see was lots of effort by ten men, but desperate play with no ambition or ability going forward. The work rate could not be faulted, attacking ability and controlled football were completely missing,Bolton at times,no great team themselves, looked two divisions higher quality than we did.
Now we have to put it behind us and start all over again and try to put a little unbeaten run of results together.
Are we capable of doing that?
I would gamble on Faulkner playing, would you?
Are any of our walking wounded likely to be fit enough to start?
Are we capable of challenging Burton for the points?
Are we capable of looking dangerous in the oppositions penalty area?
Lots to discuss about this game, please have your say.
Not sure I would have the confidence to go with Faulkner just yet Brian. Yes he looked a very accomplished player in the youth cup last week, but it is a massive step up to the 1st team in League 1
I think we need all the experience we can get in that back 4 and would play Tommy Rowe in that position.
He did very well at Scunthorpe at centre back.
If he wants Rowe in midfield then i think Blythe will get the nod as he is surely ahead in the pecking order just at the moment, having already played some 1st team football.
Anyone know if Bostock is still out injured for this one? Hopefully Close is back and Hiwula also.
Think Jones has to keep the keepers jersey as he has done nothing wrong in the last 2 games.
RW May think differently we will have to see.
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roversdude we are wasting our time looking for the positives. There are some on here who have thrown in the towel already. Only want to see negatives and quite frankly have not got the bottle for a relegation scrap.
Fortunately there are others like us who are the opposite and will always look for positives even in a negative situation.
As long as RW and all the coaches and players have that belief and positivity then we have every chance. I believe they have.
Jesus H. Have you heard yourself?
If i turn up to every home game and you do too. Then who has not got the bottle? Neither of us. Because we don't affect the actual games and therefore results. Such a pointless thing to say when we as fans can only turn up regardless.
If i was the ultimate of positive thinkers then it still would not affect whether we go down or stay up. Because we are no the ones playing football!! :facepalm: :facepalm:
Great that’s ok then. Let’s all be negative. Great if every post was doom and gloom.
Well your wrong the supporters do have a part to play. Positivity from fans feeds over to the players.
Don’t tell me no football players ever go on football forums because I don’t believe that for one minute.
They probably are not encouraged to visit them for obvious reasons. Reading some of your posts and 1969’s posts for a start.
We as fans have a huge part to play in the teams success, we may not be the ones kicking the ball but don’t underestimate the influence supporters have on their team.
So can you explain why we sit 2nd bottom given that your positive thinking and vocal support at each game you have attended?
Surely this is an indicator that what you are saying doesn't actually work and is not true?
So it is not good enough now just to attend every game then? Now we all need to attend games when we are shit every week but also cheer and cajole for 90 minutes otherwise we don't have the bottle for the fight?
Earth calling CR.
You're like Donny's own Uri Geller. :lol: :lol:
Think positive and we will win!! Keep saying it and it might come true.
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roversdude we are wasting our time looking for the positives. There are some on here who have thrown in the towel already. Only want to see negatives and quite frankly have not got the bottle for a relegation scrap.
Fortunately there are others like us who are the opposite and will always look for positives even in a negative situation.
As long as RW and all the coaches and players have that belief and positivity then we have every chance. I believe they have.
Jesus H. Have you heard yourself?
If i turn up to every home game and you do too. Then who has not got the bottle? Neither of us. Because we don't affect the actual games and therefore results. Such a pointless thing to say when we as fans can only turn up regardless.
If i was the ultimate of positive thinkers then it still would not affect whether we go down or stay up. Because we are no the ones playing football!! :facepalm: :facepalm:
Great that’s ok then. Let’s all be negative. Great if every post was doom and gloom.
Well your wrong the supporters do have a part to play. Positivity from fans feeds over to the players.
Don’t tell me no football players ever go on football forums because I don’t believe that for one minute.
They probably are not encouraged to visit them for obvious reasons. Reading some of your posts and 1969’s posts for a start.
We as fans have a huge part to play in the teams success, we may not be the ones kicking the ball but don’t underestimate the influence supporters have on their team.
So can you explain why we sit 2nd bottom given that your positive thinking and vocal support at each game you have attended?
Surely this is an indicator that what you are saying doesn't actually work and is not true?
So it is not good enough now just to attend every game then? Now we all need to attend games when we are shit every week but also cheer and cajole for 90 minutes otherwise we don't have the bottle for the fight?
Earth calling CR.
What on earth are you talking about. You have totally twisted the point I was making. If you don’t understand what’s am saying then that’s your problem.
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Fans have turned up this season home and away and to be fair i haven't heard any abuse or booing and we sit 2nd bottom. What else can we do to influence results? Nothing. The players have got off lightly thus far IMO. Fair play to the fans.
On Burton. Met office forecast at 3pm is for 39 mph winds and feels like minus 2. Should be fun. :ohmy:
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Well I will tell you this CDH thinking positive is a hell of a lot better than the opposite.
Without a positive frame of mind achieving anything in life is near on impossible.
So I am sticking with positivity and you can do the opposite if that’s what you want. Ok.
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Well I will tell you this CDH thinking positive is a hell of a lot better than the opposite.
Without a positive frame of mind achieving anything in life is near on impossible.
So I am sticking with positivity and you can do the opposite if that’s what you want. Ok.
And what if you have a mental illness and a different brain structure that means your brain functions in a certain way? ie a negative bias? Neurodiversity is fine, so long as it is positive, yes? ;)
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People moaning about Hiwula's and Dodoo's goalscoring record completely ignoring the fact we make the lowest key passes in the league. If the forwards aren't receiving the ball in decent areas they won't score. There was a chance against Lincoln where Dodoo had created space for himself to run into that would put himself one on one with the keeper, he just needed the ball putting into that space by Vilca but instead Vilca went backwards.
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roversdude we are wasting our time looking for the positives. There are some on here who have thrown in the towel already. Only want to see negatives and quite frankly have not got the bottle for a relegation scrap.
Fortunately there are others like us who are the opposite and will always look for positives even in a negative situation.
As long as RW and all the coaches and players have that belief and positivity then we have every chance. I believe they have.
good grief, could you be anymore self righteous. Give that halo of yours a polish.
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Well I will tell you this CDH thinking positive is a hell of a lot better than the opposite.
Without a positive frame of mind achieving anything in life is near on impossible.
So I am sticking with positivity and you can do the opposite if that’s what you want. Ok.
And what if you have a mental illness and a different brain structure that means your brain functions in a certain way? ie a negative bias? Neurodiversity is fine, so long as it is positive, yes? ;)
Ok fine you have mentioned that in several posts. Genuinely sorry you have this condition, but don’t shout down people who are putting a positive slant Rovers current situation.
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roversdude we are wasting our time looking for the positives. There are some on here who have thrown in the towel already. Only want to see negatives and quite frankly have not got the bottle for a relegation scrap.
Fortunately there are others like us who are the opposite and will always look for positives even in a negative situation.
As long as RW and all the coaches and players have that belief and positivity then we have every chance. I believe they have.
good grief, could you be anymore self righteous. Give that halo of yours a polish.
So being positive is self righteous and means you have a halo.
Well I have heard it all now.
Sorry if it offends you cramby trying to be positive.
What a sad world we live in.
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Well I will tell you this CDH thinking positive is a hell of a lot better than the opposite.
Without a positive frame of mind achieving anything in life is near on impossible.
So I am sticking with positivity and you can do the opposite if that’s what you want. Ok.
And what if you have a mental illness and a different brain structure that means your brain functions in a certain way? ie a negative bias? Neurodiversity is fine, so long as it is positive, yes? ;)
Ok fine you have mentioned that in several posts. Genuinely sorry you have this condition, but don’t shout down people who are putting a positive slant Rovers current situation.
The way i see it CR is that i post my opinion (usually negative i admit for the reasons given) and then i get loads of abuse and criticism for having what others perceive as a negative opinion. I am only responding to intolerance from others. Sometimes this is more aggressive than need be but Sha66y called me 'poisonous' which is inflammatory, derogatory and plain untrue. He doesn't even know me. People become volatile and hostile when constantly criticised which is a natural reaction.
I post something negative. Someone posts something critical and negative about my post, and then i respond by posting something negative about their post and on it goes. It is childish stuff tbh but it is what it is i guess.
People are weird. Including myself. What can i say?
Thanks for the kind words about the illness CR.
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Negativity drains me but I genuinely think Richie will have us in a better position as a club than the previous 2 managers
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Well I will tell you this CDH thinking positive is a hell of a lot better than the opposite.
Without a positive frame of mind achieving anything in life is near on impossible.
So I am sticking with positivity and you can do the opposite if that’s what you want. Ok.
And what if you have a mental illness and a different brain structure that means your brain functions in a certain way? ie a negative bias? Neurodiversity is fine, so long as it is positive, yes? ;)
Ok fine you have mentioned that in several posts. Genuinely sorry you have this condition, but don’t shout down people who are putting a positive slant Rovers current situation.
The way i see it CR is that i post my opinion (usually negative i admit for the reasons given) and then i get loads of abuse and criticism for having what others perceive as a negative opinion. I am only responding to intolerance from others. Sometimes this is more aggressive than need be but Sha66y called me 'poisonous' which is inflammatory, derogatory and plain untrue. He doesn't even know me. People become volatile and hostile when constantly criticised which is a natural reaction.
I post something negative. Someone posts something critical and negative about my post, and then i respond by posting something negative about their post and on it goes. It is childish stuff tbh but it is what it is i guess.
People are weird. Including myself. What can i say?
Thanks for the kind words about the illness CR.
No problem CDH
Life is too short to be falling out with people unnecessarily, especially as we are all supposed to be Rovers fans.
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Paul, that game was not unusual he has played like that all season, is bigger, stronger, and faster than Blythe and we will never know until he is given a chance.
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Paul, that game was not unusual he has played like that all season, is bigger, stronger, and faster than Blythe and we will never know until he is given a chance.
Fair enough Brian. You have seen a lot more of him than I have. But as you know it is a big step up from youth football to League 1
If he is good enough then he is old enough. As you say we will never know until he plays.
Do you think RW believes he can step up? You obviously do.
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I’ve only seen him in pre season and the Youth Cup but he definitely seems as though he’d be ok with the physical side
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Hopefully the red card is overturned and we have Close, Jordy and Gary back.
Can’t wait until Seaman is back fit to put some pressure on Knoyle who has largely disappointed me so far.
I’d give Barlow another run out as he’s impressed over the last couple of games
Can’t see that Jones has done much wrong in goal so as he currently has the shirt I’d stick with him, however I think he might be back on the bench. From what I’ve seen of Faulkner and Blythe I would have one of those in (assuming the red card stands) to let Rowe play further forward
Hopefully our forwards have shooting practice between now and the game
Gary?
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Looking forward to this one, must get an away win sooner or later.
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Hopefully the red card is overturned and we have Close, Jordy and Gary back.
Can’t wait until Seaman is back fit to put some pressure on Knoyle who has largely disappointed me so far.
I’d give Barlow another run out as he’s impressed over the last couple of games
Can’t see that Jones has done much wrong in goal so as he currently has the shirt I’d stick with him, however I think he might be back on the bench. From what I’ve seen of Faulkner and Blythe I would have one of those in (assuming the red card stands) to let Rowe play further forward
Hopefully our forwards have shooting practice between now and the game
Gary?
Vilca (he chose the name Gary)
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Forecast looks a bit grim. Seriously.
Now says a temperature akin to minus 3 and 41 mph gusts at kick off time.
For the fans it is time for the thermals.
For the players, our defence having to deal with balls into the box under those conditions doesn't fill me with confidence. Even less so when we barely put balls into the oppositions box either.
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The beauty of football Colin is the unknown how a game will pan out, At Plymouth and Bolton we have played well and got beaten, in both games helped by officials decisions going against us, but we have to keep going and try and get something from this game.
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Has anyone parked at the Stadium parking before?
Was it Scunny style problems getting out after the match or just Keepmoat levels?
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As you reach the ground there is a large round about, right goes to the ground but if you take a sharp right there is a little old industrial estate usually charges a fiver
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The car park at the ground isn't the biggest so not that many cars to come out. Problem with this is that parking is limited, although there are some industrial units around the area like Ravenrover says.
I've been a few times with mates who are fans of smaller South West clubs and getting out of the ground was easy and didn't seem to take long, although smaller crowds obviously.
Also went with a Barnsley fan mate about 3 years ago where we parked in a factory car park on the left hand side, just before you reach the first roundabout at the ground as RR was referring to. Didn't have to pay either. Arrived just moments from kick off, just dumped the motor and into the ground.
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Only 1946 fans there on Tuesday for Burtons home game with Accy and prior to that, a saturday game against the well supported Charlton only dragged 3555. So crowd probably around the 3000 mark tomorrow i think given that the weather may put some off. Not great crowds for L1 although i know Burton aren't a big club.
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Any chance of it being called off do we think given the horrendous weather forecast?
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I was hoping for a spell of cold weather, leading to frozen pitches, so we could play the matches later when we get players back from injury and new players in.
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Any chance of it being called off do we think given the horrendous weather forecast?
It will be ok. I'm about 15 miles from Burton and it is extremely windy at the moment and bitterly cold. Will be the same tomorrow but other than the strong winds causing bedlam for the players, there should be no concerns about a frozen pitch or anything. No snow forecast after the flurry expected here in the early hours.
Just be bloody baltic in the ground though! Wrap up folks. Winter is here.
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Pub wise I used this as Car Park as well - opposite is lots of street parking and I parked there to start with. There was outside Bar but may not operate in winter, but parking good for "getting away"
The nearest pub is probably the ‘The Beech Inn’ which is around a ten minute walk, up the A5121 Derby Road (going in the opposite direction to Burton town centre) on the left. You can also park your car there at a cost of £5.
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Not a good day for travelling lads and lasses.
Take care.
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Last time I went I parked on a grass verge for free just round the corner from the ground. Others were doing it so I did the same
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Decent covering of snow in my part of the midlands. Stopped now though and should turn slushy later so no travel problems expected. Man it's cold though.
Hope the players are up for a battle as Burton apparently are a physical side who like to pump balls into the area which on a day like today, with the likely strong winds we could struggle with.
Wouldn't fancy Dahlberg's handling in those circumstances. Is Jones likely to start again?
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Not looking forward to the journey especially as a speeding ticket has just landed from coming back from Bolton
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Their side are all giants. This is going to be a truly miserable afternoon with the weather and the football.
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Not looking forward to the journey especially as a speeding ticket has just landed from coming back from Bolton
Speaking of tickets. I thought i was going to get ticket at Wigan for parking in that car park across from the sports centre without paying. It was a fiver to pay but bizarrely there was no pay and display or ticket man on the gate. You had to download an app and faff about with all that nonsense so i just left it. Got away with it though.
Safe journey RD.
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Their side are all giants. This is going to be a truly miserable afternoon with the weather and the football.
Thought i was the negative one on here?! :lol: ;)
I'm hopeful but i admit, the elements are all set up to suit Burton today and we are going to really have a team of absolute fighters out there today to deal with the conditions and the cold and to also deal with their physical presence.
According to some of their fans, they aren't playing well at all and their football is terrible and although they beat Accy 4-0 on Tuesday, they said that Accy were truly abysmal and that we surely couldn't be any worse. Not sure about that lol but maybe today will be the day that we can get that all elusive 3 points on the road. What a lift that would be for the fans, especially us travelling who will have to defrost in the car after the game before even considering setting back off home.
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Can’t see anything but a defeat, but the wind may prove to be leveller
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Cheers CDH hopefully we can get a smile on your face today lol
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Cheers CDH hopefully we can get a smile on your face today lol
Not sure that is humanly possible RD. ;) :lol:
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It's going to be another tough day at the office. Conditions mean the game is most likely to be littered with mistakes from both teams so the team that deals with the conditions best is likely to win.
If we can get the ball down and control the tempo we should be able to compete however, is suspect Burton will try to bombard the box with swirling crosses into that area of uncertainty.
Looks like Jebbison has started to hit the back of the net and as we know, he's a good footballer with great determination to make things happen, so he's likely to be a handful for our makeshift defence.
Things might be fairly even in 4he middle third but I expect they will be better in the attacking third.
Another expected loss still doesn't change anything for me as long as the team gives everything. We desperately need a slice of luck or two for us to get anything today.
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Isn't the weather going to level things out and maybe help us out,
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I'd be leaning towards Tommy & Tom at centre half today. Wouldn't want to throw 1 of the young lads in with these horrible conditions. It'll be ugly but let's put our b*llocks into it and try and scrape a draw.
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Isn't the weather going to level things out and maybe help us out,
maybe our best chance of score if the wind picks up , the journey from Donny to Burton was problem free as well
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No Taylor today in the squad today ,is he injured again
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I'd be leaning towards Tommy & Tom at centre half today. Wouldn't want to throw 1 of the young lads in with these horrible conditions. It'll be ugly but let's put our b*llocks into it and try and scrape a draw.
Or scrape a win. Why not?
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No Taylor today in the squad today ,is he injured again
Wouldn't surprise me if he's fine and our medical team have diagnosed a broken leg.
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Jones dropped for Dahlberg, not sure what more he could have done.
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I'd be leaning towards Tommy & Tom at centre half today. Wouldn't want to throw 1 of the young lads in with these horrible conditions. It'll be ugly but let's put our b*llocks into it and try and scrape a draw.
Or scrape a win. Why not?
I hope we do but just going with my gut feeling.
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Their side are all giants. This is going to be a truly miserable afternoon with the weather and the football.
when Wednesday played Accrington last Saturday the radio Sheffield commentator called the Accrington team "basketball players"
and they were a basket case after half an hour when they were 3-0 down
yes they got a pen and a header from a corner
so we can see how both Burton & Accrington are CURRENTLY keeping away from the bottom
ask yourself do you want us to sign giants or play football as Wellens has this minute said we need to keep the ball on the ground today.
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Cheers CDH hopefully we can get a smile on your face today lol
Not sure that is humanly possible RD. ;) :lol:
Never a truer word….
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Going to struggle to play the neat stuff if the weather conditions are poor…and not sure we are equipped to play the lump it style…..
A 2-0 loss looks the norm, but could be better !
Or
Worse!!
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I have a sneaky feeling we might nick this.
When you look at all the stats, the opposite looks a ‘firmer bet’ however, you know when you just get ‘an instinct’ that it’s your teams turn to beat all the odds, the second ball drops to them, the officials give you a penalty or seem to almost be going all out to ensure Burton are penalised at every opportunity & their keeper has a mare, well that’s the boat I’m in.
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No Taylor today in the squad today ,is he injured again
From Liams Article he has been left out having comeback from a long time out the pitch will be soft it has been said so want to make sure he can be right for a long run.
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No Taylor today in the squad today ,is he injured again
From Liams Article he has been left out having comeback from a long time out the pitch will be soft it has been said so want to make sure he can be right for a long run.
cheers, the pitch does look soft and it's fcuking freezing as well
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I have a sneaky feeling we might nick this.
When you look at all the stats, the opposite looks a ‘firmer bet’ however, you know when you just get ‘an instinct’ that it’s your teams turn to beat all the odds, the second ball drops to them, the officials give you a penalty or seem to almost be going all out to ensure Burton are penalised at every opportunity & their keeper has a mare, well that’s the boat I’m in.
This!
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Not a single shot yet.let alone on target.
Come on rovers .
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Ffs.
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Anyone still backing him? The board?
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Close off injured at half time..... returned too earlier ? Well played medical team yet again
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Anyone still backing him? The board?
Everyone of course!
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Commentators seemed to think Dodoo missed a straightforward chance.
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2up now
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The fight goes when we are behind.....I never call for a manager but Jesus wept,this past year has been hard
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I have a sneaky feeling we might nick this.
When you look at all the stats, the opposite looks a ‘firmer bet’ however, you know when you just get ‘an instinct’ that it’s your teams turn to beat all the odds, the second ball drops to them, the officials give you a penalty or seem to almost be going all out to ensure Burton are penalised at every opportunity & their keeper has a mare, well that’s the boat I’m in.
Could somebody call the coastguard!
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I know we are s@@@ absolutely s@@&& / but that was a f@@&&@g disgrace! Obv offside - player even knew it - lino calls it - then ref goes over & overturns decision! Replay shows clearly off. When lucks against you......
But this is the worst team ive seen in 20 years
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S**t, Shrewsbury go 1-0 up in 93rd minute.
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Going to struggle to play the neat stuff if the weather conditions are poor…and not sure we are equipped to play the lump it style…..
A 2-0 loss looks the norm, but could be better !
Or
Worse!!
Nailed it…..now where’s that lottery ticket….
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Not football related but the bloke who plays the music before games at Burton needs to find a new job.
WTAF was that awful rap type nonsense he played for about 20 minutes before kick off? It was an auditory assault! Excruciating stuff.
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I know we are s@@@ absolutely s@@&& / but that was a f@@&&@g disgrace! Obv offside - player even knew it - lino calls it - then ref goes over & overturns decision! Replay shows clearly off. When lucks against you......
But this is the worst team ive seen in 20 years
yeah we all thought that aswell and it wouldn’t have mattered as we was never going to score anyway but having seen the goal back and it went against us what a great spot by the referee seeing it was Anderson who headed back towards our goal
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It wasn't offside. The last touch before the ball landed to Jebbison was by Anderson. Clear as day.
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I see Ellery Balcombe is on loan at Burton not in goal yesterday or on bench possibly injured ? Could have just sat in goalmouth on a chair if he is injured not much to contend with from rovers
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It wasn't offside. The last touch before the ball landed to Jebbison was by Anderson. Clear as day.
But when the (original) ball was played he was offside
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If the touch was intention, I haven't seen it, then it doesn't matter that he was offside. Think back to Harry Kane at Liverpool a few seasons back yards offside but the Liverpool player took a swipe at the through ball miskicked it and played Kane onside from which he scored
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I see Ellery Balcombe is on loan at Burton not in goal yesterday or on bench possibly injured ? Could have just sat in goalmouth on a chair if he is injured not much to contend with from rovers
He was warming up with the other 2 keepers before the game, must be just coming back from an injury.
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Not sure why they signed him really. He has only been trusted with the PJT games. Not played a single league game. His last appearance was 9 November.