Ukraine

[wilts rover]

All Labour MP's have now withrawn their names from the Stop the War letter as requested by Starmer

https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1496915658856341504

The fact that any of them even thought about putting their signatures to a letter which mumbled something about Russia's "movement of forces" (couldn't even bring themselves to call it an illegal invasion) is a disgrace. They aren't socialists. They are lapdogs to a fascist. They should be drummed out of the party.

The letter/statement was a week ago during the diplomatic exchanges. It says there should be a diplomatic solution and asked the UK to work towards that rather then inflaming the situation with military rhetoric:


Our focus is on the policies of the British government which have poured oil on the fire throughout this episode. In taking this position we do not endorse the nature or conduct of either the Russian or Ukrainian regimes.

The British government has talked up the threat of war continually, to the point where the Ukraine government has asked it to stop.

Unlike the French and German governments, it has advanced no proposals for a diplomatic solution to the crisis, and has contributed only sabre-rattling.

Britain needs to change its policy, and start working for peace, not confrontation.

Stop the War believes that Russia and Ukraine should reach a diplomatic settlement of the tensions between them, on the basis of the Minsk-2 agreement already signed by both states.



Clearly it was wrong, Putin was playing everyone along and there never was a possibilty of a diplomatic solution. But to call people 'lapdogs to a fascist' for wanting a diplomatic solution rather than a war and the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians, as will likely happen, is deplorable.

[wilts rover]

Regime change would be the ultimate goal of sanctions

What so Russia becomes another US sycophant state?

Said the apologist puppet of the Russian state.

[Axholme Lion]

Regime change would be the ultimate goal of sanctions

What so Russia becomes another US sycophant state?

Said the apologist puppet of the Russian state.

You're the puppet believing the lies in the MSM.

[wilts rover]

Defence Minister, Ben Wallace said on the radio this morning that Ukraine had asked the UK for anti-aircraft missiles this morning - but we were unable to supply them.

That's because we dont have any. We rely solely on aircraft and ships.

Quite sensible when you think of it though they are something we don't necessarily need do we?

Well I hope our authorities think it's the right move.

Ukraine couldn't get the planes up beacuse the first places the Russian's attacked were the airfields. The Ukrainians's couldn't defend the airfields because they dont have anti-aircraft weapons.

[wilts rover]

Regime change would be the ultimate goal of sanctions

What so Russia becomes another US sycophant state?

Said the apologist puppet of the Russian state.

You're the puppet believing the lies in the MSM.

Said the apologist believing the propoganda of the Russian state.

[Axholme Lion]

Regime change would be the ultimate goal of sanctions

What so Russia becomes another US sycophant state?

Said the apologist puppet of the Russian state.

You're the puppet believing the lies in the MSM.

Said the apologist believing the propoganda of the Russian state.

I don't need the Russian state, it's obvious what's happening.

[Filo]

The Ukrainians should surrender to avoid further bloodshed. They are being used as expendable cannon fodder by the US puppet government.

Why should they surrender, they have done nothing wrong, they are fighting against an evil killer that cares only for himself and his Billions

[Colin C No.3]

Ask any Ukrainian whether they think they ought to surrender.

[normal rules]

Russian GP now cancelled.
F1 team Haas has ditched its Russian based sponsor too, and now has the car decked out in all white. It was draped in the Russian flag colours

[normal rules]

UEFA still not addressing its relationship with GAZPROM.

[BillyStubbsTears]

The Ukrainians should surrender to avoid further bloodshed. They are being used as expendable cannon fodder by the US puppet government.

Your daily broadcast from Lord Haw-Haw.

[Metalmicky]

I read an interesting article recently that suggested that NATO should have invited both Russia and Ukraine to join NATO - with the proviso that Ukraine could only accept if Russia did.  After all, we hear that Putin's main concern is Ukrainian NATO membership, leading to NATO troops being stationed in the Ukraine and providing a closer launching pad for a NATO war against Russia. If Russia were a NATO member, NATO's Article 5 would compel, for example, the UK to defend Russia against any attack, including that of a fellow NATO member, including the U.S.  Therefore Russia's NATO membership would provide the formal security guarantee that it wants and seeks.

Bringing Russia in from the cold might be the barking mad, but it could have been the solution.  And what if Russia declines I hear you say.... well that would show that Putin's real focus is on conquering countries with any actual or alleged historical connection to Russia, and might show that NATO allies need to be prepared for further wars in the Baltics..... or any other NATO countries in Putin's eye sights..
 

[Axholme Lion]

The Ukrainians should surrender to avoid further bloodshed. They are being used as expendable cannon fodder by the US puppet government.

Your daily broadcast from Lord Haw-Haw.

Yawn.
It's a pity you the self proclaimed defender of the poor are not more concerned with the massive costs sanctions will put on the fuel and energy prices here in the UK. This is more important than crying about some one carrying out a military operation in a country which does not concern us.

[Filo]

The Ukrainians should surrender to avoid further bloodshed. They are being used as expendable cannon fodder by the US puppet government.

Your daily broadcast from Lord Haw-Haw.

Yawn.
It's a pity you the self proclaimed defender of the poor are not more concerned with the massive costs sanctions will put on the fuel and energy prices here in the UK. This is more important than crying about some one carrying out a military operation in a country which does not concern us.

I find your support of a mad man killing innocent people disgusting, you should be ashamed of your comments!

[normal rules]

I doubt that a communist regime would want to be part of a democratic regime.

[BillyStubbsTears]

NR.

They are no more Communist than our Govt is.

They retained all the autocratic controls of the Soviet Union, but put them to serving a bunch of gangsters who have made themselves spectacularly wealthy. They are the very definition of a gangster kleptocracy.

[Colin C No.3]

The Ukrainians should surrender to avoid further bloodshed. They are being used as expendable cannon fodder by the US puppet government.

Your daily broadcast from Lord Haw-Haw.

Yawn.
It's a pity you the self proclaimed defender of the poor are not more concerned with the massive costs sanctions will put on the fuel and energy prices here in the UK. This is more important than crying about some one carrying out a military operation in a country which does not concern us.

Like when Germany invaded Poland & we ended up with our population on food rations as we went to war with Germany. What were we thinking about!

[River Don]

Russia hasn't been a communist state for a long time.

The party Putin represents is United Russia, described as Russian Conservative, statist and nationalist.

All in all, not unlike fascists then.

[Superspy]

Should the time ever come where I find myself completely unmatched, facing certain death, I sincerely hope I've got the balls to be as defiant as the Ukranians killed defending Snake Island.

"This is Russian military warship. I suggest you lay down your weapons and surrender to avoid bloodshed and needless casualties. Otherwise, you will be bombed."

"Go f**k yourselves".

Died proud, defending what they believed in.

[Metalmicky]

Russian GP now cancelled.
F1 team Haas has ditched its Russian based sponsor too, and now has the car decked out in all white. It was draped in the Russian flag colours

Surely yellow and blue would have been a better decision..... rub Putin's nose in it so to speak.

[normal rules]

I see the skip rat Assad has come out and praised Putin for his actions.

[Axholme Lion]

The Ukrainians should surrender to avoid further bloodshed. They are being used as expendable cannon fodder by the US puppet government.

Your daily broadcast from Lord Haw-Haw.

Yawn.
It's a pity you the self proclaimed defender of the poor are not more concerned with the massive costs sanctions will put on the fuel and energy prices here in the UK. This is more important than crying about some one carrying out a military operation in a country which does not concern us.

Like when Germany invaded Poland & we ended up with our population on food rations as we went to war with Germany. What were we thinking about!

Could have been avoided though couldn't it? Do you think any of these foreigners are ever grateful to us? They all hate us as proved by the petty EU carry on over covid vaccines and border checks. We'll just end up with more so called refugees coming over here 'cause we're a soft touch for spongers. We should be a closed country and have nothing to do with anyone. We'd be a lot better off for it.

[Colin C No.3]

Should the time ever come where I find myself completely unmatched, facing certain death, I sincerely hope I've got the balls to be as defiant as the Ukranians killed defending Snake Island.

"This is Russian military warship. I suggest you lay down your weapons and surrender to avoid bloodshed and needless casualties. Otherwise, you will be bombed."

"Go f**k yourselves".

Died proud, defending what they believed in.

I heard about that incident too.

Axholme Lion would no doubt call them fools.

I also saw the footage of a Russian tank that as a civilian car approached it on the other side of the road, the tank swerved & ran right over the top of the car.

It later showed passers-by helping a single grey haired gent out of the wreckage apparently having miraculously survived his confrontation with the brave Russian tank crew.

[River Don]

You're not a very compassionate man are you AL.

[Colin C No.3]

The Ukrainians should surrender to avoid further bloodshed. They are being used as expendable cannon fodder by the US puppet government.

Your daily broadcast from Lord Haw-Haw.

Yawn.
It's a pity you the self proclaimed defender of the poor are not more concerned with the massive costs sanctions will put on the fuel and energy prices here in the UK. This is more important than crying about some one carrying out a military operation in a country which does not concern us.

Like when Germany invaded Poland & we ended up with our population on food rations as we went to war with Germany. What were we thinking about!

Could have been avoided though couldn't it? Do you think any of these foreigners are ever grateful to us? They all hate us as proved by the petty EU carry on over covid vaccines and border checks. We'll just end up with more so called refugees coming over here 'cause we're a soft touch for spongers. We should be a closed country and have nothing to do with anyone. We'd be a lot better off for it.

Yep, could have been avoided. And of course had we not gone to war with Germany, Axholme Hitler would never had invaded Britain.

[MachoMadness]

It's not fair to bring up the war to Axholme. His side lost.

[DRFC_DonnyRed50]

The Ukrainians should surrender to avoid further bloodshed. They are being used as expendable cannon fodder by the US puppet government.

Your daily broadcast from Lord Haw-Haw.

Yawn.
It's a pity you the self proclaimed defender of the poor are not more concerned with the massive costs sanctions will put on the fuel and energy prices here in the UK. This is more important than crying about some one carrying out a military operation in a country which does not concern us.

Like when Germany invaded Poland & we ended up with our population on food rations as we went to war with Germany. What were we thinking about!

Could have been avoided though couldn't it? Do you think any of these foreigners are ever grateful to us? They all hate us as proved by the petty EU carry on over covid vaccines and border checks. We'll just end up with more so called refugees coming over here 'cause we're a soft touch for spongers. We should be a closed country and have nothing to do with anyone. We'd be a lot better off for it.

I have no words. I can only hope people with similar views and values to you, are few and far between in this country.

[Axholme Lion]

The Ukrainians should surrender to avoid further bloodshed. They are being used as expendable cannon fodder by the US puppet government.

Your daily broadcast from Lord Haw-Haw.

Yawn.
It's a pity you the self proclaimed defender of the poor are not more concerned with the massive costs sanctions will put on the fuel and energy prices here in the UK. This is more important than crying about some one carrying out a military operation in a country which does not concern us.

Like when Germany invaded Poland & we ended up with our population on food rations as we went to war with Germany. What were we thinking about!

Could have been avoided though couldn't it? Do you think any of these foreigners are ever grateful to us? They all hate us as proved by the petty EU carry on over covid vaccines and border checks. We'll just end up with more so called refugees coming over here 'cause we're a soft touch for spongers. We should be a closed country and have nothing to do with anyone. We'd be a lot better off for it.

Yep, could have been avoided. And of course had we not gone to war with Germany, Axholme Hitler would never had invaded Britain.

I don't believe he would have if you look into it properly. Once again getting involved in other peoples problems cost us thousands and thousands of British lives. We never seem to learn from it. It's not worth our while, let europe look after themselves. What right do we have to set ourselves up as the worlds policeman? All the do gooders bleat on about our evil empire but seem happy for us stick our oar in now when ever anything kicks off.

[Axholme Lion]

You're not a very compassionate man are you AL.

No.

[Copps is Magic]

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