Ukraine

[BillyStubbsTears]

No politician is fit for any purpose

I was wondering how long it was going to be before that one came up.

So presumably Zelensky is as bad as the rest of them?

[Colemans Left Hook]

What are you reading? He says 60% + of Russia's wealth is held outside Russia.

''Butler to the World: How Britain Helps the World's Worst People Launder Money, Commit Crimes, and Get Away with Anything
by Oliver Bullough
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In his punchy follow-up to Moneyland, Oliver Bullough's Butler to the World unravels the dark secret of how Britain placed itself at the centre of the global offshore economy and at the service of the worst people in the world…''

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58725007-butler-to-the-world



Just listening to Butler being interviewed.

https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=RUB&view=10Y

10 years of the exchange rate is the longest i can find

we got this judgement yesterday

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60595266

[Ldr]

No politician is fit for any purpose

I was wondering how long it was going to be before that one came up.

So presumably Zelensky is as bad as the rest of them?

I believe what i said was clear

[KeithMyath]

There was solicitor on R4 this morning. He has a number of kleptocrats on his list of clients. He said he's amazed that no action has been taken to freeze their assets, and that he's advising them how to get assets out of the country or otherwise protected.

He was on LBC as well. Stated the same. He was almost beyond bemused by the Governments light handed moves.

[BillyStubbsTears]

No politician is fit for any purpose

I was wondering how long it was going to be before that one came up.

So presumably Zelensky is as bad as the rest of them?

I believe what i said was clear

On the contrary. Since "fit for purpose" is an entirely nebulous term, what you said couldn't be less clear. But since you  have refused to draw a distinction between the characteristics of politicians before, I assume you think they are all as bad as each other.

Which is a strange opinion to hold to, this of all weeks.

[KeithMyath]

No politician is fit for any purpose

I was wondering how long it was going to be before that one came up.

So presumably Zelensky is as bad as the rest of them?

I believe what i said was clear

On the contrary. Since "fit for purpose" is an entirely nebulous term, what you said couldn't be less clear. But since you  have refused to draw a distinction between the characteristics of politicians before, I assume you think they are all as bad as each other.

Which is a strange opinion to hold to, this of all weeks.

I know this wasnt aimed at me, but as i first mentioned it . In my Industry Fit for Purpose is a legal contractual term used to determine that something at its very least is serving its basic purpose and nothing more. Our Government in my eyes, is no longer serving even that basic requirement.

[Sprotyrover]

Just had a look at Adolf on Companies house, it’s someone having a Larf probably some Woke lefty students with a £100 to throw away, however it may cause the Govt to utilise the services of peeps like myself to root out and eradicate… for a substantial fee of course!

You don't know what woke means.

I did try explaining that to him last night that "Woke" now seems to mean "things that are too complicated for me to understand but that I don't like."

But he didn't seem to understand or like my post.

That may be your definition of what it means,it isn’t mine!

[albie]

Delay is the essence of the UK sanctions response.

This is deliberate, to allow the Tory sponsors time to move their assets to a safe space.
Protect your backers by giving them the flex to adapt.

If the UK were serious, all off-shore tax haven operations would have been locked down..they are not, as we speak.

Of course, many other tax avoiders would be caught in that net, as well as Russian money.
Some of them sit on the Government benches!

[KeithMyath]

Just had a look at Adolf on Companies house, it’s someone having a Larf probably some Woke lefty students with a £100 to throw away, however it may cause the Govt to utilise the services of peeps like myself to root out and eradicate… for a substantial fee of course!

You don't know what woke means.

I did try explaining that to him last night that "Woke" now seems to mean "things that are too complicated for me to understand but that I don't like."

But he didn't seem to understand or like my post.

That may be your definition of what it means,it isn’t mine!

That was never in doubt, but thanks for the clarification.

[Colin C No.3]

No politician is fit for any purpose

Would you include these politicians in that sweeping statement?

Winston Churchill
Nelson Mandela
Nye Bevan
Mahatma Gandhi
Abraham Lincoln
Franklin Roosevelt
Xi Ping-Lui
William Beverage
Clement Atlee
William Haig

[BillyStubbsTears]

No politician is fit for any purpose

I was wondering how long it was going to be before that one came up.

So presumably Zelensky is as bad as the rest of them?

I believe what i said was clear

On the contrary. Since "fit for purpose" is an entirely nebulous term, what you said couldn't be less clear. But since you  have refused to draw a distinction between the characteristics of politicians before, I assume you think they are all as bad as each other.

Which is a strange opinion to hold to, this of all weeks.

I know this wasnt aimed at me, but as i first mentioned it . In my Industry Fit for Purpose is a legal contractual term used to determine that something at its very least is serving its basic purpose and nothing more. Our Government in my eyes, is no longer serving even that basic requirement.

But it depends on how you define the purpose of politics.

[Metalmicky]

IKEA closing all 17 of its stores in Russia...

Hitting them in the soft furnishings...... although the colour scheme probably doesn't help.

[normal rules]

Usmanovs (links to Everton fc) $600million dinghy has been seized by the Germans now.

[ravenrover]

Oh yes.... Putin's loyal doom mongering attack dog Lavrov...... what a despicable character.  Definitely not someone that engenders trust, integrity or the slightest piece of sincerity.... 

But, but Ms Trust looked him in the eyes when he told her they weren't going to invade, and she believed him

[Colin C No.3]

IKEA closing all 17 of its stores in Russia...

Hitting them in the soft furnishings...... although the colour scheme probably doesn't help.

That’ll teach them to dare fly into Swedish air space.

[i_ateallthepies]

No politician is fit for any purpose

How to make every single word you now utter to be of no value whatsoever.

[normal rules]

F1 has completely terminated its contract to race in Russia. Period. So thats st Petersburg off the calendar too. And forever more by the sounds of it.
Apparently Putin was closely associated with the Russian GP, he was key in establishing it there in 2014.
Kick in the balls vlad?

[Colemans Left Hook]

Usmanovs (links to Everton fc) $600million dinghy has been seized by the Germans now.

you may recall U$manov tried to take control of Arsenal for years before selling out  -would prefer Arsenal to have had the problems
apparently all the superyachts have anchored in the Maldives who have no extradition treaty with the US they are hardly going to get fitted out and repaired there. 

the phrase "All dressed up and nowhere to go comes to mind"

[Metalmicky]

Ukraine interactive map here if anyone interested...

https://liveuamap.com/

[ravenrover]

Hungary refuses to let weapons for Ukraine through it's Borders

[Ldr]

No politician is fit for any purpose

Would you include these politicians in that sweeping statement?

Winston Churchill
Nelson Mandela
Nye Bevan
Mahatma Gandhi
Abraham Lincoln
Franklin Roosevelt
Xi Ping-Lui
William Beverage
Clement Atlee
William Haig

What I said is clear

[Ldr]

No politician is fit for any purpose

How to make every single word you now utter to be of no value whatsoever.

And your opinion means what exactly to me?

[normal rules]

Russia is going to appeal the footy ban. Good luck with that.

[albie]

EU pressing the UK, waking up to the dematerialisation of Russian assets;
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/03/eu-urges-uk-to-act-faster-before-russian-assets-are-spirited-away

It could not be related to this list of benefactors, could it:
https://twitter.com/ciabaudo/status/1499263773152100353

No...perish the thought!

Mandelson lying doggo as well, got to be a reason!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Thinking on the implications of the very poor showing of the Russian military. I'm not thinking of the situation in Ukraine - I cannot see any outcome that isn't grim for them. Either Putin steps up the intensity, which means many more deaths, or there is a very, very long drawn out conflict.

I'm thinking of the implications for other Russian aggression.

It's clear that without massively upping their game, they would have absolutely no chance of successfully invading a NATO country in the way that they have invaded Ukraine. The resistance would be an order of magnitude stronger. So, bizarrely, unless Putin is genuinely insane, I'm wonder if the Ukraine invasion might actually make WWIII less, not more likely.

[Ldr]

I don’t think there can genuinely be any questions about his sanity now Billy?

[BillyStubbsTears]

I fundamentally disagree Ldr.

You can make a catastrophic mistake without being insane. I think the most likely story is that, insulated from people who dare contradict him, he'd convinced himself that Ukraine would roll over when the tanks went in. Just like Georgia did 14 years ago.

If that's the case, he's got his fingers very badly burned. And if he is sane, he'll take that lesson.

[Ldr]

Ivory tower syndrome?

[wilts rover]

Johnson Lets Russian Oligarchs ‘Get Away With It’ As Sanctions Reprieve to Last for Months

Johnson denies donation from senior figure at Russia’s second-largest bank was behind decision to hand it a one-month sanctions reprieve.

Full story here

https://twitter.com/BylineTimes/status/1499386719199764480

The Tory Party (not all of them, just Johnson, his cronies and their backers) are the overseas arm of Putin's mafia and became personally wealthy through it. If you don't see that now - you never will.

[Ldr]

Can it even be denied Wilts now?