Ukraine

[normal rules]

I'm struggling to understand what this war is all about... Other than Vlads ego.

Basically Russia plays by the same rules as the west now. Only more corrupt. If that's the system Putin wants to promote he was having far more success and much more cheaply buying people off and paying bribes.

I think a part of this is Putins own mortality. He is 69 now. And if the rumours are right, he might not be in the best of health. Physically and/ or mentally.
There’s a big driving force right there.
The now or never attitude.
He think he will leave a legacy he will be remembered by. By re conquering Ukraine as Russian. Re uniting it with the Motherland.
He will be remembered.  But not in the way he would have dreamed of.

[Filo]

Hopefully he will be remembered in the same vein as Hitler ot Mussolini, preferably Mussolini, executed by his own people and hung from a petrol station canopy

[BillyStubbsTears]

Putin's Russia.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1502761903046774786

A state as f**ked up as this cannot survive indefinitely.

[River Don]

You know the Rothschilds realised years ago that if you want real power you only need to be in control of the purse strings.

[SydneyRover]

As more and more information is leaked or pushed out it looks like there has been a large bunch of self serving fools ready to accept the rouble to spread lies and crap about anything and everything that plays into Russian favour.

It is now time for an overarching commission of inquiry into wtf has been going on that has corrupted our government and media?

[SydneyRover]

If you missed this when it was first published, here it is:

How Ben Elliot supercharged Tory donations by targeting world’s ultra-wealthy
This article is more than 5 months old
Well-connected Old Etonian has shifted party towards accepting money from those with deep pockets – and offshore links

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/05/how-ben-elliot-supercharged-tory-donations-by-targeting-worlds-ultra-wealthy

How can foreign money be allowed to influence political parties????

[BillyStubbsTears]

From 2007 onwards the Russian government paid the Daily Telegraph (reputedly c£500000 per year) to run a more pro-Russian and anti-Europe line.

This included money to the star correspondent for the Telegraph, one Alexander Johnson, who began blaming the EU for the Russian invasion of Crimea.

Long thread here:

https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1502763923812065287

and here

https://twitter.com/archer_rs/status/1503004574604574721

It's even more stark than that Wilts.

In 2007, as you say, the Russian Govt started paying the Telegraph £480k per year.

Later that year, the Telegraph upped the salary of one of its star reporters from £25k per annum to £247k.

That star reporter then, having previously written frivolous pieces about straight bananas and Italians complaining that Euro condoms were too long,  started writing articles that were increasingly supportive of Putin's Russia, and increasingly virulently aggressive against the EU.

In 2014, that star reporter wrote a piece blaming the EU for fomenting trouble in Ukraine and forcing Putin's hand. Exactly the Kremlin line.

See if you can guess who the star reporter was...

A clue. It's the same person who has consistently refused to order the security services to investigate Russian interference in our elections.

It's the same person who, as Foreign Secretary, attended a NATO meeting on the Salisbury poisoning, then went straight to an undocumented 1-2-1 private meeting with the son of a KGB colonel.

There's quite a weight of evidence emerging that our PM is actually a Russian agent.

[SydneyRover]

Doesn't look like he ever stopped ...........

''Boris Johnson blamed the EU for provoking Russia’s earlier attacks on Ukraine in 2014 and was branded a “Putin apologist” amid a storm of criticism.

The comments – made at the heart of the Brexit referendum battle, in 2016 – led to the future prime minister being likened to then Ukip leader Nigel Farage and being rebuked by Downing Street''

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-ukraine-russia-brexit-b2024817.html

[SydneyRover]

''Boris Johnson is facing a fierce backlash after he hit back at David Cameron's claim Brexit could lead to war in Europe by saying EU policy had actually stoked tensions in Ukraine.

Mr Johnson's comments, made during a speech billed as his "biggest intervention" in the EU campaign so far, sparked anger and claims that he was a "Putin apologist".

The former London Mayor said the Prime Minister's claim the European Union maintained peace on the continent was "not the most powerful argument" he had heard.

He said NATO was responsible for keeping the peace and it was "important we don't muddle up the role of the EU and the role of NATO".

https://news.sky.com/story/johnson-accused-of-being-putin-apologist-10275259

remind me again why some are saying the same?

[tyke1962]

From 2007 onwards the Russian government paid the Daily Telegraph (reputedly c£500000 per year) to run a more pro-Russian and anti-Europe line.

This included money to the star correspondent for the Telegraph, one Alexander Johnson, who began blaming the EU for the Russian invasion of Crimea.

Long thread here:

https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1502763923812065287

and here

https://twitter.com/archer_rs/status/1503004574604574721

It's even more stark than that Wilts.

In 2007, as you say, the Russian Govt started paying the Telegraph £480k per year.

Later that year, the Telegraph upped the salary of one of its star reporters from £25k per annum to £247k.

That star reporter then, having previously written frivolous pieces about straight bananas and Italians complaining that Euro condoms were too long,  started writing articles that were increasingly supportive of Putin's Russia, and increasingly virulently aggressive against the EU.

In 2014, that star reporter wrote a piece blaming the EU for fomenting trouble in Ukraine and forcing Putin's hand. Exactly the Kremlin line.

See if you can guess who the star reporter was...

A clue. It's the same person who has consistently refused to order the security services to investigate Russian interference in our elections.

It's the same person who, as Foreign Secretary, attended a NATO meeting on the Salisbury poisoning, then went straight to an undocumented 1-2-1 private meeting with the son of a KGB colonel.

There's quite a weight of evidence emerging that our PM is actually a Russian agent.

You could argue that there's a case for treason here Billy with all things on the table .

Not that it will ever happen mind but none the less .

Step back in time and how this country would have judged this in the 1940's or earlier .

[SydneyRover]

Is putin going to push NATO into direct conflict with the intent of dragging in China to his aid?

The hard heads of Europe and the US will be looking at the latest attack near Poland and trying to outthink and out manoeuvre putin in his gross violations of human rights and war of terror. Maybe leave johnson on the bench for the duration.

[River Don]

There could be real trouble here with Putin asking the Chinese for military equipment.

Hopefully the Chinese understand how very serious this war is for the global economy.

Any action like this would be another escalation and see the globe effectively divide into two opposing power blocks.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well, if the Govt won't do it ...

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/putin-go-f-yourself-squatters-move-into-oligarchs-london-mansion-316013/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=tlb2

That's Deripaska's (sic) £25m London pad, paid for by stolen gangster money.

[Colin C No.3]

Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has saved Bozo’s neck.

Buried now the investigation into whether he not only broke the covid rules whilst attending Downing Street parties during lockdown, but in doing so left himself open to the police taking some form of action against him.

I wish him nothing but ill.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Putin is sub-human. He is a f**king animal.

This is beyond disgusting.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-60733921

Anyone who supports what he is doing here has lost the right to be treated with any respect.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well, if the Govt won't do it ...

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/putin-go-f-yourself-squatters-move-into-oligarchs-london-mansion-316013/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=tlb2

That's Deripaska's (sic) £25m London pad, paid for by stolen gangster money.

Here's a thought.

If there was an empty house on your street and squatters moved in, do you think a dozen tooled up riot plod would turn up within a few hours to hoy them out?

https://mobile.twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1503362929428766720

[wilts rover]

What is the bravest thing you have ever done:

https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/1503447615807049731

The sign says:

“Stop the war
Don’t believe propaganda
They’re lying to you”

and she is chanting, 'Stop the War, No to War'

Her name is Maria Ovsyanikova and we will most likely never see her again.

[SydneyRover]

What is the bravest thing you have ever done:

https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/1503447615807049731

The sign says:

“Stop the war
Don’t believe propaganda
They’re lying to you”

and she is chanting, 'Stop the War, No to War'

Her name is Maria Ovsyanikova and we will most likely never see her again.

It is beyond belief that people do this knowing the result is 99% likely to result in 15years in a russian jail.

[normal rules]

Marina Ovsyannikova

This woman is a real life heroine.
That’s real courage to do what she has.

[SydneyRover]

And all the journalists in Ukraine that put their lives on the line every day so we can have a better view.

Brent Renaud - US journalist killed in Ukraine

''Brent Renaud, 50, was a journalist and filmmaker and was shot dead in the town of Irpin, outside Kyiv.

He had been working in the region at the time of his death.

Kyiv's police chief Andriy Nebytov said he had been targeted by Russian soldiers. Two other journalists were injured and taken to hospital.

It is the first reported death of a foreign journalist covering the war in Ukraine.

Renaud had reported from Afghanistan, Iraq and Haiti. He won a Peabody Award for his work on a 2014 series on Chicago schools, Last Chance High.

He often worked alongside his brother, Craig, also a filmmaker. It is not known whether Craig also travelled to Ukraine.

Photographs are circulating online showing a press ID for Renaud issued by the New York Times.

In a statement, the newspaper said it was "deeply saddened" to hear of Renaud's death but that he had not been working for the newspaper in Ukraine''

from the Guardian

[SydneyRover]

No guessing who's on the next bus to the gulag

Aric Towler twitter

''The best part of the news of Russia begging China for MREs: guess who got the corrupt government tender  to provide the MoD with food? Forbes Russia detailed how 92% of the business went to firms linked to Prigozhin:
https://forbes.ru/kompanii/potrebitelskii-rynok/235779-rassledovanie-kak-lichnyi-kulinar-putina-nakormit-rossiiskuyu-a?page=3,1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Corruption may be what saves Ukraine''

[BillyStubbsTears]

Marina Ovsyannikova

This woman is a real life heroine.
That’s real courage to do what she has.

Brave beyond words

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bluesoulreggae/status/1503514570895339523

I fear for her person, but her spirit gives hope to everyone.

[tyke1962]

If only 10% of the people of Russia took to the streets to protest against the war and Putin as their President it would equate to 14m people .

[River Don]

In many respects it's like a civil war.

I just wonder how long they can supress the truth.

[SydneyRover]

In many respects it's like a civil war.

I just wonder how long they can supress the truth.

I don't think it's civil war in any respect RD, what leads you to believe that?

Apologies for a sec I thought you meant Ukraine

[SydneyRover]

my skills are nowhere good enough

''Ukraine appealed for a global army of IT experts to help in the battle against Putin – and many answered the call. We speak to people on the digital frontline

Chris Stokel-Walker and Dan Milmo
Tue 15 Mar 2022 10.00 GMT
Kali learned how to use technology by playing with his grandfather’s phone. Now, the Swiss teenager is trying to paralyse the digital presence of the Russian government and the Belarussian railway.

Kali – and many others who contributed to this article – declined to share his real name because some of the action he is taking is illegal and because he fears Russian retaliation. He one of about 300,000 people who have signed up to a group on the chat app Telegram called “IT Army of Ukraine”, through which participants are assigned tasks designed to take the fight to Vladimir Putin. In so doing, they are trying to level the playing field between one of the world’s superpowers and Ukraine as it faces bombardment and invasion''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/15/volunteer-hackers-fight-russia

[BillyStubbsTears]

Tory MP Daniel Kawczynski has deleted his Twitter account after tweeting that it would be "immoral" for the UK to take more refugees.

That's the same Daniel Kawczynski who was born in Warsaw, and whose mother brought him to the UK when he was 6. Good job we didn't have Kitsons in power wanting to send em back then, eh?

Mind, I can understand why he's deleted his account. 2 years ago he was bragging that he was liaising with the Polish Govt to block any UK Brexit deal in the EU Parliament. Which, in simple English, is treason.

[ravenrover]

Reports that Zelenskyy is now saying Ukraine has to accept it cannot join NATO! Is that a peace proposal

[scawsby steve]

What is the bravest thing you have ever done:

https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/1503447615807049731

The sign says:

“Stop the war
Don’t believe propaganda
They’re lying to you”

and she is chanting, 'Stop the War, No to War'

Her name is Maria Ovsyanikova and we will most likely never see her again.

Fined the equivalent of £215.

That's a real surprise, and a welcome one.

[ravenrover]

She could still be charged under the new laws, 15years in jail still a possibility