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"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2022, 06:34:31 pm"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of an independent neighbour. It is doing that by obliterating city after city on that nation's soil.The other "nationalistic blag" is a desperate fight for the very survival of a people as a free, independent entity.But yeah. Bothsides.But yeah. Bothsides.
"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of an independent neighbour. It is doing that by obliterating city after city on that nation's soil.The other "nationalistic blag" is a desperate fight for the very survival of a people as a free, independent entity.But yeah. Bothsides.
Quote from: River Don on May 31, 2022, 07:19:44 pmThe tactics Russia is using to gain ground appear to be horrific.Shell the target for 3 or 4 hours, then mount a ground attack looking for a breakthrough. When they all been killed start the shelling again.It's like 1945, Putin is prepared to try to take this land with the blood of Russia's youth.Kinda what Ukraine was doing to the Donbas before Russia officially joined in.
The tactics Russia is using to gain ground appear to be horrific.Shell the target for 3 or 4 hours, then mount a ground attack looking for a breakthrough. When they all been killed start the shelling again.It's like 1945, Putin is prepared to try to take this land with the blood of Russia's youth.
Including the Russian SAM that brought down a Malaysian airliner.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 01, 2022, 11:20:29 amIncluding the Russian SAM that brought down a Malaysian airliner.Your analysis of that incident being?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2022, 06:34:31 pm"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2022, 06:34:31 pm"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of an independent neighbour. It is doing that by obliterating city after city on that nation's soil.The other "nationalistic blag" is a desperate fight for the very survival of a people as a free, independent entity.But yeah. Bothsides.But yeah. Bothsides.The black and white world of BST. Ukraine is obliterating towns too, or are they using smart bombs aimed just at Russians?Does the Ukraine nationalism include just the people supporting the Coup?
"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2022, 06:34:31 pm"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of an independent neighbour. It is doing that by obliterating city after city on that nation's soil.The other "nationalistic blag" is a desperate fight for the very survival of a people as a free, independent entity.But yeah. Bothsides.But yeah. Bothsides.
"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of an independent neighbour. It is doing that by obliterating city after city on that nation's soil.The other "nationalistic blag" is a desperate fight for the very survival of a people as a free, independent entity.But yeah. Bothsides.
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on June 01, 2022, 01:28:23 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2022, 06:34:31 pm"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2022, 06:34:31 pm"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of an independent neighbour. It is doing that by obliterating city after city on that nation's soil.The other "nationalistic blag" is a desperate fight for the very survival of a people as a free, independent entity.But yeah. Bothsides.But yeah. Bothsides.The black and white world of BST. Ukraine is obliterating towns too, or are they using smart bombs aimed just at Russians?Does the Ukraine nationalism include just the people supporting the Coup? Which towns are Ukraine 'obliterating'?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2022, 06:34:31 pm"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2022, 06:34:31 pm"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of an independent neighbour. It is doing that by obliterating city after city on that nation's soil.The other "nationalistic blag" is a desperate fight for the very survival of a people as a free, independent entity.But yeah. Bothsides.But yeah. Bothsides.The black and white world of BST. Ukraine is obliterating towns too, or are they using smart bombs aimed just at Russians?Does the Ukraine nationalism include just the people supporting the Coup?
"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2022, 06:34:31 pm"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of an independent neighbour. It is doing that by obliterating city after city on that nation's soil.The other "nationalistic blag" is a desperate fight for the very survival of a people as a free, independent entity.But yeah. Bothsides.But yeah. Bothsides.
"Bothsides". The bone idle argument approach des nos jours.Split the "nationalistic blag from both sides" into the differences between the two sides.One side is blagging nationalistically about its historic right to obliterate the very existence of an independent neighbour. It is doing that by obliterating city after city on that nation's soil.The other "nationalistic blag" is a desperate fight for the very survival of a people as a free, independent entity.But yeah. Bothsides.
Let me get this right BRR.UKRAINE obliterated Mariupol?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 01, 2022, 11:31:55 pmLet me get this right BRR.UKRAINE obliterated Mariupol?You love to ask a lot of questions but infecund on the answering. But did expect you to get triggered by this one, so.... in the spirit of demonstrating answering.....Fire went both ways, or did the Ukraines just shout at the Russians? Ukraine snipers hanging out in the buildings sometimes with their human shields taken at gun point, sometimes with volunteer ones (hmmmm....), sometimes without any. Russians should have done the decent thing and asked the Ukraines to step outside.
The price of oil can go up if Russia limits supply.They can't make as much as they were selling it to the Europeans but they can still make money selling it to alternative sources can't they? (They are giving good deals to the chinese and Indians)Its partly to do with geography, I guess Russia can more easily pump to China and India than Europe can ship supplies from the Middle East and North America.Both sides are suffering but which is suffering more?
Quote from: River Don on June 02, 2022, 07:01:36 pmThe price of oil can go up if Russia limits supply.They can't make as much as they were selling it to the Europeans but they can still make money selling it to alternative sources can't they? (They are giving good deals to the chinese and Indians)Its partly to do with geography, I guess Russia can more easily pump to China and India than Europe can ship supplies from the Middle East and North America.Both sides are suffering but which is suffering more? Russia cannot by definition make more money by selling less because the price has gone up because they are selling less. It's totally illogical.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 02, 2022, 09:28:03 pmQuote from: River Don on June 02, 2022, 07:01:36 pmThe price of oil can go up if Russia limits supply.They can't make as much as they were selling it to the Europeans but they can still make money selling it to alternative sources can't they? (They are giving good deals to the chinese and Indians)Its partly to do with geography, I guess Russia can more easily pump to China and India than Europe can ship supplies from the Middle East and North America.Both sides are suffering but which is suffering more? Russia cannot by definition make more money by selling less because the price has gone up because they are selling less. It's totally illogical. I'm not suggesting they are making more money.Just that they are still able to have an income.Russia's income is reduced no doubt.At the same time the west is suffering too.
Yes the Kremlin does put about these stories of Ukrainian Nazis using human shields.But then we have actual footage of insanely heroic Ukrainian helicopter pilots flying at almost ground level to avoid anti-aircraft fire. Day after day shipping food and ammo in to Avostal and taking wounded away. That is an incredibly selfless act and some lost their lives doing it.