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Axholme Lion

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« Reply #2910 on August 05, 2022, 12:23:32 pm by Axholme Lion »
I listen to a wide variety of stuff, just happened to hear that first. What do you listen to?

All those incidents were attacking military targets, you know that. Civilian buildings were affected too.

There is a problem with weapons and manpower locating within civilian buildings or adjacent to them. Forcefully holding civilians there is evil and cowardly, maybe what the Azov guys were talking about having been instructed to do? As far as I understand, all that contravenes regulations. Obviously I mean that in relation to both Russians and Ukraines.

And then then there is shelling of civilian areas where there is *clearly* no military target. Lots of examples of that, tho guessing your Express sources missed that?

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new



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Colin C No.3

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« Reply #2911 on August 05, 2022, 01:36:44 pm by Colin C No.3 »
I listen to a wide variety of stuff, just happened to hear that first. What do you listen to?

All those incidents were attacking military targets, you know that. Civilian buildings were affected too.

There is a problem with weapons and manpower locating within civilian buildings or adjacent to them. Forcefully holding civilians there is evil and cowardly, maybe what the Azov guys were talking about having been instructed to do? As far as I understand, all that contravenes regulations. Obviously I mean that in relation to both Russians and Ukraines.

And then then there is shelling of civilian areas where there is *clearly* no military target. Lots of examples of that, tho guessing your Express sources missed that?

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new

‘We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields, in the streets & in the houses, we shall fight from the hills, from craters, from schools, hospitals & if needs be churches; we shall never surrender.’

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #2912 on August 06, 2022, 11:57:27 pm by Bristol Red Rover »

wilts rover

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« Reply #2913 on August 07, 2022, 07:47:47 am by wilts rover »
Interesting, maybe explains a lot?

https://lefteast.org/ukraine-agrees-to-monsanto-land-grab-for-17-billion-imf-loan/

How does that explain why Putin undertook an imperialist invasion of a sovereign independent country?

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #2914 on August 08, 2022, 09:37:00 am by Axholme Lion »
I listen to a wide variety of stuff, just happened to hear that first. What do you listen to?

All those incidents were attacking military targets, you know that. Civilian buildings were affected too.

There is a problem with weapons and manpower locating within civilian buildings or adjacent to them. Forcefully holding civilians there is evil and cowardly, maybe what the Azov guys were talking about having been instructed to do? As far as I understand, all that contravenes regulations. Obviously I mean that in relation to both Russians and Ukraines.

And then then there is shelling of civilian areas where there is *clearly* no military target. Lots of examples of that, tho guessing your Express sources missed that?

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new

‘We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields, in the streets & in the houses, we shall fight from the hills, from craters, from schools, hospitals & if needs be churches; we shall never surrender.’

Well they shouldn't be surprised if they get shelled then, it stands to reason.

Colin C No.3

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« Reply #2915 on August 08, 2022, 09:57:38 am by Colin C No.3 »
That was a quote from the Millwall Bushwackers.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #2916 on August 08, 2022, 10:14:23 am by BillyStubbsTears »
I listen to a wide variety of stuff, just happened to hear that first. What do you listen to?

All those incidents were attacking military targets, you know that. Civilian buildings were affected too.

There is a problem with weapons and manpower locating within civilian buildings or adjacent to them. Forcefully holding civilians there is evil and cowardly, maybe what the Azov guys were talking about having been instructed to do? As far as I understand, all that contravenes regulations. Obviously I mean that in relation to both Russians and Ukraines.

And then then there is shelling of civilian areas where there is *clearly* no military target. Lots of examples of that, tho guessing your Express sources missed that?

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new

‘We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields, in the streets & in the houses, we shall fight from the hills, from craters, from schools, hospitals & if needs be churches; we shall never surrender.’

Well they shouldn't be surprised if they get shelled then, it stands to reason.

Aye.

And the people going shopping in Kremenchuk, 300 miles behind the front line. They shouldn't be surprised if they get shelled either.

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #2917 on August 08, 2022, 11:16:10 am by Axholme Lion »
I listen to a wide variety of stuff, just happened to hear that first. What do you listen to?

All those incidents were attacking military targets, you know that. Civilian buildings were affected too.

There is a problem with weapons and manpower locating within civilian buildings or adjacent to them. Forcefully holding civilians there is evil and cowardly, maybe what the Azov guys were talking about having been instructed to do? As far as I understand, all that contravenes regulations. Obviously I mean that in relation to both Russians and Ukraines.

And then then there is shelling of civilian areas where there is *clearly* no military target. Lots of examples of that, tho guessing your Express sources missed that?

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new

‘We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields, in the streets & in the houses, we shall fight from the hills, from craters, from schools, hospitals & if needs be churches; we shall never surrender.’

Well they shouldn't be surprised if they get shelled then, it stands to reason.

Aye.

And the people going shopping in Kremenchuk, 300 miles behind the front line. They shouldn't be surprised if they get shelled either.

Depends on what was being stored near there doesn't it?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #2918 on August 08, 2022, 11:31:00 am by BillyStubbsTears »
It's like talking to the f**king wall.

Russia launched an anti-ship missile with a 70 year old guidance system that has an estimated accuracy of +/-300m. They couldn't target anything that was being stored anywhere with that system. They just lobbed a couple of 1 tonne explosives into a residential area and happened to hit a busy shopping centre, totally destroying it and killing 18 shoppers.

Because that's what Russia does. And you glory in it.

Colin C No.3

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« Reply #2919 on August 08, 2022, 12:56:57 pm by Colin C No.3 »
F***ing h**l BST he’s got you biting at every ‘cast’!

Is he really worth ‘engaging’ with at any sort of intellectual level?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #2920 on August 08, 2022, 03:14:21 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I never tire of pointing out to fascists that they are fascists.

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #2921 on August 08, 2022, 03:31:36 pm by Bentley Bullet »
F***ing h**l BST he’s got you biting at every ‘cast’!

Is he really worth ‘engaging’ with at any sort of intellectual level?
What is intellectual level?

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« Reply #2922 on August 08, 2022, 05:17:10 pm by SydneyRover »
F***ing h**l BST he’s got you biting at every ‘cast’!

Is he really worth ‘engaging’ with at any sort of intellectual level?
What is intellectual level?

No surprise you don't understand that term bb, hehe

Colin C No.3

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« Reply #2923 on August 08, 2022, 11:02:59 pm by Colin C No.3 »
F***ing h**l BST he’s got you biting at every ‘cast’!

Is he really worth ‘engaging’ with at any sort of intellectual level?
What is intellectual level?
If you’ve been watching the Commonwealth Games, it’s a little like the equivalent of you achieving a medal in the pole vault.

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #2924 on August 09, 2022, 12:11:18 pm by Axholme Lion »
I never tire of pointing out to fascists that they are fascists.

Ha ha. I reckon i have more socialist ideas than you have.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #2925 on August 09, 2022, 12:32:35 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Aye. Like I say. National Socialist ideas.

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #2926 on August 09, 2022, 12:57:17 pm by Axholme Lion »
Aye. Like I say. National Socialist ideas.

I mean looking after the British working class, decent pensions a reformed NHS to look after sick people properly, nationalisation of all utilities, railways and steel manufacturing, leave NATO, rearmament of our military for our DEFENCE, no more foreign wars. Call it whatever you want but i don't see a problem with any of that.

BobG

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« Reply #2927 on August 09, 2022, 01:20:53 pm by BobG »
Yup. National Socialism

BobG

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #2928 on August 09, 2022, 01:42:31 pm by Axholme Lion »
Yup. National Socialism

BobG

You don't like any of the above then?

normal rules

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« Reply #2929 on August 09, 2022, 01:54:49 pm by normal rules »
AL, perhaps you could start a new political party. And call it the National Socialist English Workers Party?
Sound familiar. ?

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #2930 on August 09, 2022, 03:20:47 pm by Axholme Lion »
AL, perhaps you could start a new political party. And call it the National Socialist English Workers Party?
Sound familiar. ?

The seeds are being sown for this to come to fruition. The worse the standard and cost of living becomes for the British worker eventually they will see the light and that all the major parties, msm and international big business are all screwing them over and do not have their interest at heart. Someone needs to stand up for the average person and put them and this country first. The day WILL come, we can wait...

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #2931 on August 09, 2022, 03:30:43 pm by Axholme Lion »
I take it you're all opposed to  looking after the British working class, decent pensions a reformed NHS to look after sick people properly, nationalisation of all utilities, railways and steel manufacturing?

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« Reply #2932 on August 09, 2022, 03:34:14 pm by turnbull for england »
All books in a pile lads , anyone brought the matches

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« Reply #2933 on August 09, 2022, 03:58:10 pm by drfchound »
I take it you're all opposed to  looking after the British working class, decent pensions a reformed NHS to look after sick people properly, nationalisation of all utilities, railways and steel manufacturing?

Hang on, decent pensions for old people.
I know of one poster who won’t like that at all.

BobG

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« Reply #2934 on August 09, 2022, 05:17:59 pm by BobG »
Good Lord! We'll be talking about the miracles wrought by Hjalmar Schacht next!

BobG

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« Reply #2935 on August 09, 2022, 05:35:48 pm by normal rules »
The Mercer CFA Institute Global Pension Index (formerly the Melbourne Mercer Global Pension Index) is an annual cross-country comparison of pension systems produced in collaboration with the Monash Centre for Financial Studies. The 2021 report scores and ranks the pension systems of over 40 countries, based on more than 50 indicators under the sub-indices of adequacy, sustainability and integrity. An overall score of each country’s system is produced along with an associated grade.

The uk ranked 9th in 2021.

Colin C No.3

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« Reply #2936 on August 10, 2022, 12:43:48 pm by Colin C No.3 »
On Sunday Amnesty International apologised for “distress & anger” caused by a report accusing Ukraine of endangering civilians by placing Ukrainian troops in residential areas.

Amnesty Ukraine head, Oksana Pokalchuk, quit saying “the report was a propaganda gift for Moscow”.

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #2937 on August 10, 2022, 01:09:24 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
On Sunday Amnesty International apologised for “distress & anger” caused by a report accusing Ukraine of endangering civilians by placing Ukrainian troops in residential areas.

Amnesty Ukraine head, Oksana Pokalchuk, quit saying “the report was a propaganda gift for Moscow”.
So the Ukraine branch are caught in pro Ukraine propaganda.

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #2938 on August 10, 2022, 01:13:41 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
I just watched a vid from a French TV channel interviewing some US volunteers in Ukraine. Said their command was in it for personal glory and not afraid to unnecessarily sacrifice troops to get this. Also their dead compatriots were robbed of possessions including phones and money by Ukraines.

And now I'm hearing that the assault in the Kherson area was never going to happen, just an attempt to demoralise the Russians.... will try to find the interview, but crazy stuff if so.

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #2939 on August 10, 2022, 03:48:12 pm by Axholme Lion »
You "just" watched it. Now you'll "try to find it"?

Meaning?

 

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