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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: ian1980 on June 22, 2020, 10:16:29 am
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https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2020/june/in-rovers-supporters-we-trust/
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Done
DONATION 1
If you can afford it, support the club
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Will be going for Option 1.
By Option 1, which goes to the Academy, by proxy would we be helping the first team by having less to invest in the youth which frees up funds for the first team?
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I haven't had a season ticket for a few years due to some Saturday commitments making it not worth it..However these are tough times and I want to buy one for next season to support the club regardless..Are they still on sale or have sales been suspended for now ??
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Email sent. Option 1. :rtid:
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Really pleased to be able to help the club and with my mates four option 1 on the season tickets and two away tickets for Portsmouth but the one that really pleases me is keeping two Bolton away from last August, they made us feel better.
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I haven't had a season ticket for a few years due to some Saturday commitments making it not worth it..However these are tough times and I want to buy one for next season to support the club regardless..Are they still on sale or have sales been suspended for now ??
Still available from the look of things. :)
https://tickets.clubdoncaster.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/dna%20silver%20membership%2020-21/Info
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It will be option 1 x 3 for me and the family 👍
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Done. Option 1.
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option 1 for me as well for the remainder of this season was easy to choose , but i have paid for next season already and could not afford to choose the same option unfortunately if the situation does not change and fans are not aloud to attend football.
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Option 1.
I can't commit to anything else at present but more than happy to help the club in any way I can.
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Option 1. E mailed.
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Option1 when I can find my supporter number
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Done Option 1
I am sure all Season ticket members & other supporters who purchased tickets, those of course who can afford it will be happy to donate the pro rata money for the 3 outstanding home games to the club.
Think the club have given plenty of incentives.
Well done GB and all at the club.
Proud to be a Rover.
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Option1 when I can find my supporter number
Now done
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Option 1 for me
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Done. Option 1 for myself and my two daughters.
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Option 1 by phone for me and young un only called to pledge Rotherham ticket back to Rovers too. Literally took a couple of mins
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Presume no response will equals option 1?
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Option 1 for me too
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Option 1 for me as well! Nice and easy to do, also donated the Bolton away ticket back as well :rtid:
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Presume no response will equals option 1?
I'd assume so, but I imagine you won't get the benefits from doing so, like the invites to the events.
Fantastic gesture from the club to even offer something in return for the donation, I'm sure everyone on here would have donated anyway without expecting anything back but hopefully this means they get a few more takers.
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I am sure there will be more than a few who probably cant afford not to take a refund.
Losing jobs - being furloughed is not ok for some and they need every penny. All kinds of Bills still to pay and no dounbt stopping non essential Directt Debits - even I killed off Sky Sports . £33 for old sporting content - no thanks
So others like myself and the older set on here can afford (I count myself lucky) to do it but I would not be critical of anyone who didnt - 99% of us have been in their shoes
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I am sure there will be more than a few who probably cant afford not to take a refund.
Losing jobs - being furloughed is not ok for some and they need every penny. All kinds of Bills still to pay and no dounbt stopping non essential Directt Debits - even I killed off Sky Sports . £33 for old sporting content - no thanks
So others like myself and the older set on here can afford (I count myself lucky) to do it but I would not be critical of anyone who didnt - 99% of us have been in their shoes
Hear hear DW well said indeed
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A good point DW and one that I feel the club is definitely aware of.
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I’m going to donate my home games season ticket money but claim back my away games money
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I am sure there will be more than a few who probably cant afford not to take a refund.
Losing jobs - being furloughed is not ok for some and they need every penny. All kinds of Bills still to pay and no dounbt stopping non essential Directt Debits - even I killed off Sky Sports . £33 for old sporting content - no thanks
So others like myself and the older set on here can afford (I count myself lucky) to do it but I would not be critical of anyone who didnt - 99% of us have been in their shoes
It is very true i have just lost my job after 26 years , i am lucky as i paid off my mortgage and have another job but it pays a lot less but enough to live on , their will be a lot of people out their not so lucky to find work very quick , I did change my gas and electric to Yorkshire gas and electric and saves me around £50 a month and i cancelled my sky package saving £70 a month as well
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Email sent. Option 1. :scarf: :bscarf: :bbscarf:
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Would be interesting to know the final outcome. This thread will be no reflection at all of the true overall outcome. People are hardly going to brag about option 3. Option 3 may allow some to buy next seasons season ticket with the extra 30-40 quid off technically then.
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People needn’t feel any negativity if they have to claim their refunds, as well as saying so on here - those fans need our support too.
There were times a few years ago when I would have taken the refund.
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DW great point - nobody should feel pressured into any of the options. Everyone has their own set of circumstances and must do what is right for them
Hope you’re ok by the way
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i was on a Zoom call with a colleague and she was delighted her husband had been able to get a refund on his season ticket for a big Premier league club, had paid for a holiday for them. Different ball game in more ways than one.
Kudos to those who can afford to donate, i suppose most had written off the money anyway, and echo the sentiments that those who will need the refund shouldn't be made to feel bad for taking it.
I'm not a regular at the Rovers so don't have any tickets to donate but i've made sure to kit ourselves out with new shirts etc to support the club.
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Every little helps, good that there is an option as that is the main thing really and keeps everyone on board. Fully agree nobody should be looked down on for any of their choices. To me it's probably not a lot to others it really is.
I think there's a big difference between enacting this as a rovers fan and a premier League fan it's a different world.
I have great concern for what the club will look like in 12 months time. But less concern than I would at other clubs and that's a credit to the owners and staff.
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Do we really know what is happening at other Clubs? I think there’s a fair chance that some will be struggling, but I’m not sure the majority are and it could be that some are pleading poverty to lure people into thinking they’re going to be a ‘daft touch’ next season.
I could be a million miles away from what actually is happening elsewhere, but I wouldn’t trust some of the Club owners in this division.
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Alan, seriously?
Quite a number of clubs are in real dire straights. With no income how do you expect they are doing?
Quite a number are fundraising in all kinds of ways, for some/most, it may be the bit that makes all the difference.
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Option 1 100% absolute no-brainer for me. I didn’t expect anything back in return so the fact the club have offered an incentive is amazing
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Can I just say, then, Martin, just what is the EFL doing about it? Do you think they are going to let most of the Clubs in leagues 1 and 2 go to the wall? If that is truly the case, then it kind of underlines where the EFL’s loyalties lie. Or am I missing something fundamental?
Everyone knows there’s plenty of money in the EPL ( Chelsea have already made a huge signing for next season, the value of which could have eased The 46 teams problems in leagues 1 and 2). But there is quite a chunk to be had in the Championship, as we’ve experienced ourselves in recent times. But the single most damaging fact of the matter is there is this totally lob-sided reward for Clubs getting relegated from the Premiership. Until something is done about that, I can’t see much changing at lower league level.
Just what are the EFL doing about the knock-on effects of this pandemic on (especially) the Clubs in leagues 1 and 2? These are unprecedented times and it calls for unprecedented measures. Where and what are they?
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Sorted....rather the club than my pocket
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As a family we will be opting for Option 1 for 19/20. We bought our adult tickets on Black Friday so we have had plenty of value out of them already and as far as I am concerned its money already spent and I never had any expectation of getting a refund, it was the same for the Bury game too.
Next season is going to be a different settle of fish and I dont expect a resolution will be forthcoming any time soon.
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Can I just say, then, Martin, just what is the EFL doing about it? Do you think they are going to let most of the Clubs in leagues 1 and 2 go to the wall? If that is truly the case, then it kind of underlines where the EFL’s loyalties lie. Or am I missing something fundamental?
Everyone knows there’s plenty of money in the EPL ( Chelsea have already made a huge signing for next season, the value of which could have eased The 46 teams problems in leagues 1 and 2). But there is quite a chunk to be had in the Championship, as we’ve experienced ourselves in recent times. But the single most damaging fact of the matter is there is this totally lob-sided reward for Clubs getting relegated from the Premiership. Until something is done about that, I can’t see much changing at lower league level.
Just what are the EFL doing about the knock-on effects of this pandemic on (especially) the Clubs in leagues 1 and 2? These are unprecedented times and it calls for unprecedented measures. Where and what are they?
Correct me if I am wrong, but the EFL IS the clubs.?
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This could be the perfect time for the board to suss out either new owners or selling part of the club to the supporters to invest in . Or not in either case but I’ll keep my STs going for next year any ...in for penny and all that !
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This could be the perfect time for the board to suss out either new owners or selling part of the club to the supporters to invest in . Or not in either case but I’ll keep my STs going for next year any ...in for penny and all that !
Why would you want new owners?
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⬆️⬆️⬆️ Exactly why do want new owners, like who ?
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I’m more than happy with the owners we’ve got, and thankful that the club is run so well.
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New owners??? Why would that thought even crop into your head???? You only have to look around at other clubs this season Bury have gone,Charlton,Bolton,Macclesfield etc etc..No thank you,i'm more than grateful for the owners we have and how well the clubs run..
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Guys it close season - wouldn’t be the same without someone having a dig about the owners and their ambitions. It’s time we banded together to help however we can
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Just phoned and done mine, asked about what people were doing, pleased to hear the vast majority are giving back to our great club :rtid:
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The response has been overwhelming!
When we first sat down to talk about it we looked around at what other clubs had done and decided to do it even better. We still had to wait for the EFL to decide what the outcome of the season was going to be, but once that was done it was just a matter of putting things in place.
What happens now, and in the next month or two, depends very much on how we as supporters can continue to support the club. The budget, players and staff being retained, will all be shaped by what we can do with no football to watch. It really does depend on us to a much larger degree than it has before.
The good thing is the response has been really positive if social media is anything to go by. Well done all!
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This could be the perfect time for the board to suss out either new owners or selling part of the club to the supporters to invest in . Or not in either case but I’ll keep my STs going for next year any ...in for penny and all that !
Surely there can't have been a worse time for anybody to consider buying a football club?
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This could be the perfect time for the board to suss out either new owners or selling part of the club to the supporters to invest in . Or not in either case but I’ll keep my STs going for next year any ...in for penny and all that !
Surely there can't have been a worse time for anybody to consider buying a football club?
I would have thought that now was a bad time to sell but a good time to buy - for all of the wrong reasons though.
I'm very happy with our current ownership.
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I know what you mean Stockton but it is more uncertain than ever before. A very very uncertain future ahead.
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The response has been overwhelming!
When we first sat down to talk about it we looked around at what other clubs had done and decided to do it even better. We still had to wait for the EFL to decide what the outcome of the season was going to be, but once that was done it was just a matter of putting things in place.
What happens now, and in the next month or two, depends very much on how we as supporters can continue to support the club. The budget, players and staff being retained, will all be shaped by what we can do with no football to watch. It really does depend on us to a much larger degree than it has before.
The good thing is the response has been really positive if social media is anything to go by. Well done all!
When we looking at updating the club shop and releasing the new shirt? Surely that would bring in a few quid?
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The present owners are fantastic and I hope they carry the flag for many a year, but it would be nice to add to them though with people who would work with them without upsetting the apple cart.
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Donation 1
Just sorted
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Did mine yesterday and I'm renewing my season ticket today for 20/21. Every little helps.
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Tbh nobody would real want to buy drfc as we don’t have anything worth selling. Can’t sell cantley park or the stadium the players are only worth what some other club is willing to pay.
If someone does want to buy the club they would need to invest 10s of millions to get to the premiership then sell potentially for some sort of profit
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Tbh nobody would real want to buy drfc as we don’t have anything worth selling. Can’t sell cantley park or the stadium the players are only worth what some other club is willing to pay.
If someone does want to buy the club they would need to invest 10s of millions to get to the premiership then sell potentially for some sort of profit
Not really. Having such a long lease gives companies room to exploit the assets if they want to. Which is exactly why we had a certain hedge fund trying to con their way into buying (sic) the club.
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Season pass to I follow has yet to be sorted by EFL ..any rebate decided will in my case be donated back to the club .
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But aren’t the keepmoat and cantley park classed as community assets so it’s not like someone can buy rovers and knock down keepmoat or bulldoze cantley park and build homes.
So what I’m saying is it’s not easy to make a quick buck on our club
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We have such a great deal with the council that if you can - as we are trying to do - really rinse the asset there is huge upside benefit. We pay I see to remember a fixed 100k annually and if you can really market the Keepmoat for events, conferences, concerts etc, your gearing for that investment means it is all upside. 100k is peanuts as annual fixed rent for an asset of that size and with zero competition within 20 miles.
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The club can never be accused of not giving Doncaster community the fullest value for their occupation of the stadium and it’s surrounds for sure .We compare very favourably with some big city clubs who sweat the stadium asset for their own benefit with the inevitable hotel facilities .We have a college and many community activities on site .
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We should be proud and h-e-l-l I am proud to be a supporter of (for me) my great hometown Club
I have a Wolves fan to thank who decamped from Staffs to here but instantly became a Rovers Fan (and tried to infiltrate Yorks CCC but I never let him go that far) and he indoctrinated me into being a Rovers fan
Thanks Dad wherever you are you too would be proud of Rovers to this day and might be pleased with whats going on at Molineux too
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Is the club contacting supporters individually about this?
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Can I just say, then, Martin, just what is the EFL doing about it? Do you think they are going to let most of the Clubs in leagues 1 and 2 go to the wall? If that is truly the case, then it kind of underlines where the EFL’s loyalties lie. Or am I missing something fundamental?
Everyone knows there’s plenty of money in the EPL ( Chelsea have already made a huge signing for next season, the value of which could have eased The 46 teams problems in leagues 1 and 2). But there is quite a chunk to be had in the Championship, as we’ve experienced ourselves in recent times. But the single most damaging fact of the matter is there is this totally lob-sided reward for Clubs getting relegated from the Premiership. Until something is done about that, I can’t see much changing at lower league level.
Just what are the EFL doing about the knock-on effects of this pandemic on (especially) the Clubs in leagues 1 and 2? These are unprecedented times and it calls for unprecedented measures. Where and what are they?
Alan, we do know they are under review currently with regard to governance, and we know because they have taken the FSA document as part of that review.
We also know that they have said that they will work even harder to ensure that the Bury situation doesn't happen again, although details on what they will do are in short supply. But since Shaun Harvey was put on gardening it could be said that there is a less dogmatic approach to the EFL.
But there is talk about wage caps, smaller squad sizes, promotion of academy players etc which will form a basis of changes required to ensure clubs stay within their means and operate as sustainably as possible. The disappointment is that they have so far failed to provide any detail or dates or anything which shows them working towards that. I'm assuming they want the season out of the way beforehand.
The good thing though, is that I'm hearing extremely strong evidence that all that I've mentioned above is already happening at club level. Report after report is showing that clubs are releasing players on large contracts, that wage levels are tumbling along with budget sizes, and that Covid-19 measures forced on clubs are happening. Clubs know full well that they have to balance the books like never before, and that is happening, or at least appears to be.
But I'd forget the EPL as the saviour, they don't care. The government have told them they need to do more, something that they acknowledge, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
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But aren’t the keepmoat and cantley park classed as community assets so it’s not like someone can buy rovers and knock down keepmoat or bulldoze cantley park and build homes.
So what I’m saying is it’s not easy to make a quick buck on our club
The Keepmoat is classed as an Asset of Community Value (ACV) which is held by us, the VSC. We've looked at Cantley Park but it is a bit more complex and less important.
But it's no coincidence that a Hedge Fund stepped in to buy DRFC when we had the long lease issued, suddenly DRFC were in control of their home and were not renting any longer. That had a value.
So why did they wish to buy the club? They certainly weren't interested in the club itself, what they wanted was the land, and there's plenty of it around the Keepmoat without having to demolish anything.
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But aren’t the keepmoat and cantley park classed as community assets so it’s not like someone can buy rovers and knock down keepmoat or bulldoze cantley park and build homes.
So what I’m saying is it’s not easy to make a quick buck on our club
The Keepmoat is classed as an Asset of Community Value (ACV) which is held by us, the VSC. We've looked at Cantley Park but it is a bit more complex and less important.
But it's no coincidence that a Hedge Fund stepped in to buy DRFC when we had the long lease issued, suddenly DRFC were in control of their home and were not renting any longer. That had a value.
So why did they wish to buy the club? They certainly weren't interested in the club itself, what they wanted was the land, and there's plenty of it around the Keepmoat without having to demolish anything.
Did n’t they go out of business not long after?
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But aren’t the keepmoat and cantley park classed as community assets so it’s not like someone can buy rovers and knock down keepmoat or bulldoze cantley park and build homes.
So what I’m saying is it’s not easy to make a quick buck on our club
The Keepmoat is classed as an Asset of Community Value (ACV) which is held by us, the VSC. We've looked at Cantley Park but it is a bit more complex and less important.
But it's no coincidence that a Hedge Fund stepped in to buy DRFC when we had the long lease issued, suddenly DRFC were in control of their home and were not renting any longer. That had a value.
So why did they wish to buy the club? They certainly weren't interested in the club itself, what they wanted was the land, and there's plenty of it around the Keepmoat without having to demolish anything.
There's plenty of land available in Doncaster and across the country without going to the hassle of buying/running a football club to get hold of a piece of land where there would be substantial local opposition to developing it.
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But aren’t the keepmoat and cantley park classed as community assets so it’s not like someone can buy rovers and knock down keepmoat or bulldoze cantley park and build homes.
So what I’m saying is it’s not easy to make a quick buck on our club
The Keepmoat is classed as an Asset of Community Value (ACV) which is held by us, the VSC. We've looked at Cantley Park but it is a bit more complex and less important.
But it's no coincidence that a Hedge Fund stepped in to buy DRFC when we had the long lease issued, suddenly DRFC were in control of their home and were not renting any longer. That had a value.
So why did they wish to buy the club? They certainly weren't interested in the club itself, what they wanted was the land, and there's plenty of it around the Keepmoat without having to demolish anything.
There's plenty of land available in Doncaster and across the country without going to the hassle of buying/running a football club to get hold of a piece of land where there would be substantial local opposition to developing it.
You’re assuming they had some money!!
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Thank you Martin
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And assuming it was a ligit business!
I'm grateful for any clean money from local successful businessmen any day of the week.
As we've said all along, be careful what you wish for! Look at Charlton now.
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Just bought a DNA card and paid into the lottery, hope this helps a little 👍🏻
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Every bit helps. If our 7,000 fans spent £15 each that's over £100k which is a sizeable amount. We just need to keep ticking over.
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But aren’t the keepmoat and cantley park classed as community assets so it’s not like someone can buy rovers and knock down keepmoat or bulldoze cantley park and build homes.
So what I’m saying is it’s not easy to make a quick buck on our club
The Keepmoat is classed as an Asset of Community Value (ACV) which is held by us, the VSC. We've looked at Cantley Park but it is a bit more complex and less important.
But it's no coincidence that a Hedge Fund stepped in to buy DRFC when we had the long lease issued, suddenly DRFC were in control of their home and were not renting any longer. That had a value.
So why did they wish to buy the club? They certainly weren't interested in the club itself, what they wanted was the land, and there's plenty of it around the Keepmoat without having to demolish anything.
There's plenty of land available in Doncaster and across the country without going to the hassle of buying/running a football club to get hold of a piece of land where there would be substantial local opposition to developing it.
That is true, although the hard yards have been done by someone building all the infrastructure and attracting other businesses to the area. This is a well positioned site (near town, motorway) where there is good footfall and traffic already.
For 100k rent a year you are getting a stadium that you could exploit further financially (as we are) to strengthen this as a destination and then you can build further retail etc in the environs. If you look at Wembley the area as many will remember from 2008 is not the most attractive part of London but due to the infrastructure to support the stadium, you can see now with coverage of England games that there is loads of construction around the site.
I don’t know at all but imagine the attraction of the fantasy bid was to increase land value in the immediate area and profit from that, with the club and stadium exploitation a driver of that. Who knows though - only JR I guess.
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Fantasy and exploitation! The two key words there CBcb.
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We should be proud and h-e-l-l I am proud to be a supporter of (for me) my great hometown Club
I have a Wolves fan to thank who decamped from Staffs to here but instantly became a Rovers Fan (and tried to infiltrate Yorks CCC but I never let him go that far) and he indoctrinated me into being a Rovers fan
Thanks Dad wherever you are you too would be proud of Rovers to this day and might be pleased with whats going on at Molineux too
What a lovely post Wolfie.
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Is everyone emailed or had something posted? Not had anything if so.
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Not yet, no.
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Option 1, done.
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I've only bought kids season tickets. Does this apply to them as I've not heard anything from the club?
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I've only bought kids season tickets. Does this apply to them as I've not heard anything from the club?
Well it will apply to everybody.
There will be more communication soon.
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I unfortunately had to ask for a refund. As hard as it was, with being a rovers supporter for 45 years. Lost my job. Struggling. Times are hard for me. Wish I could have donated it to the club but every penny counts at the mo. So sorry to DRFC and my fellow supporters.
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No need to apologise at all, you need the cash.
Hope you get back on your feet soon.
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I love my club. Wish I could help but unfortunately I can’t. Having depression hasn’t helped with losing my job. I have worked all my life except for the last 3 months. It is quite soul destroying.
Thank you IDM
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I even apologised in my email to DRFC as I felt embarrassed asking for for my money back
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I love my club. Wish I could help but unfortunately I can’t. Having depression hasn’t helped with losing my job. I have worked all my life except for the last 3 months. It is quite soul destroying.
Thank you IDM
Well if there is one thing you will know from supporting this club is that one minute you’re playing Leek Town away but before too long you are back in the game winning the Division Three title. Am sure you will be back with some wins soon pal.
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I have been all over the country following the mighty DRFC in all leagues. My son is now a supporter. Onwards and upwards
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I even apologised in my email to DRFC as I felt embarrassed asking for for my money back
No apology required nobody should feel embarrassed about asking for a refund we are all in different and sometimes difficult circumstances, good luck for the future
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Spilsby, please never feel the need to apologise for putting yourself/family first! In an ideal world none of this would be happening, but it is and times are very hard for many of us. You love the club just as we all do and I'm sure have contributed plenty over the years (and will again once this difficult time passes and you are back on the up with us all) but for now you should feel in no way as if you've done wrong or are less for having to get that money back.
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I have supported our club through thick and thin. I actually so feel embarrassed. DRFC ha e given me a purpose all my life esp the last few years. We have amazing supporters and since that fatal owner in 1998 we have have an incredible board.
I am sorry I can’t contribute at this moment. Love my club. Just feel heart broken I can’t help at this moment in time
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I even apologised in my email to DRFC as I felt embarrassed asking for for my money back
You have nothing to apologise for.
Keep your pecker up & all the best for the future.
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Thank you for all your support. We have a great club
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Spilsby your comments on here say as much about our love of our club as someone donating hundreds. Keep smiling pal everything happens for a reason you and the club will come through this
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Love my club