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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on April 27, 2024, 05:08:24 pm
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Great achievement and great save from Jones near the end, but the difference between the two is night and day, we’re going to miss Tutala in the play offs
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Great achievement and great save from Jones near the end, but the difference between the two is night and day, we’re going to miss Tutala in the play offs
Give over you numpty. We need to build the players up at this stage.
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Is that a two or three match ban?
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Is that a one or three match ban?
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Is that a two or three match ban?
One match ban
COYR
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Great achievement and great save from Jones near the end, but the difference between the two is night and day, we’re going to miss Tutala in the play offs
Give over you numpty. We need to build the players up at this stage.
It’s a discussion, I hope Jones has a blinder in the play offs, but it makes me more nervous with him in goal that is a fact, he’s not confident in playing out from the back, as shown today, and that has been a pivotal park of our amazing run
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Jones will not let us down. He never had a settled back four. Now we have that. Woods will be constantly talking to him
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One match ban is fine. Annoying today as that was the difference between 11 wins and 10 wins, as they were not really that impressive. Bigger picture is the play offs, huge achievement.
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Yep , but he's what we have so he needs no doubts creeping in from us after watching his specifically recruited replacement be pretty much fault less for a third of a season
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Great achievement and great save from Jones near the end, but the difference between the two is night and day, we’re going to miss Tutala in the play offs
Give over you numpty. We need to build the players up at this stage.
It’s a discussion, I hope Jones has a blinder in the play offs, but it makes me more nervous with him in goal that is a fact, he’s not confident in playing out from the back, as shown today, and that has been a pivotal park of our amazing run
I’d give him credit for not even entertaining the idea of playing out from the back, but it’s a relief that it will only be a one match ban - everywhere I’ve looked confirms just one match.
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If Jones is wearing our shirt next game then he's just as an important member of this squad as everyone else.
He got us this far with that save, so a big clap from me! Not an easy thing to do coming on cold like that.
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My lad just looked it up. Says that offence is a 2 match ban
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God that was tense, but the bottom line is we still finished 5th and are in the playoffs. We will wop Crewe twice and then MK Dons. Nothing to worry about. They have time to settle their minds and reform before they go to Crewe.
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If our attacking players continue to play with the confidence and class they've shown, it won't matter what the keeper does.
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Some are saying the red doesn't carry over so we'll just have to wait and see
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Louis won’t let us down in the first leg (if it is only a one match ban for TLT).
Getting into the playoffs was the name of the game. We’ve done that, records don’t matter a damn on that score.
This group of players WILL see us over the line…in my opinion.
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Sounds as though a lot of knowledgeable people are confused how long the ban is. Let's hope it is not carried over and we can carry on all guns blazing. We'll see.
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We are saying it will be Jones but isn't he only on the bench as a homegrown player?
It could be Lawlor
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Great, in this thread we have had one, two and three match bans, and also no ban.
John Coyle who is right on most matters football, reckons one match ban.
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We are saying it will be Jones but isn't he only on the bench as a homegrown player?
It could be Lawlor
Lawlor is injured still I think.
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Any games that he might miss going forward is a massive loss. He’s been instrumental in how we how we play.
That being said, I fancy us to beat anyone with that front 3, especially at home. Keep it tight first leg and then get another special night at the ground.
Still can’t believe I’ve typed that
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TLT may be the better keeper, but it doesn’t follow that Jones is a liability. We defend as a team don’t we?
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My lad just looked it up. Says that offence is a 2 match ban
Where did he see this, cos I found this:
S4 Denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball - 1 match
S5 Denies an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence
punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick - 1 match
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TLT may be the better keeper, but it doesn’t follow that Jones is a liability. We defend as a team don’t we?
Big difference is that Thimmee is more dominant coming for balls in the 6 yard box. Little to choose when it comes to reaction saves JMHO
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Great achievement and great save from Jones near the end, but the difference between the two is night and day, we’re going to miss Tutala in the play offs
Give over you numpty. We need to build the players up at this stage.
It’s a discussion, I hope Jones has a blinder in the play offs, but it makes me more nervous with him in goal that is a fact, he’s not confident in playing out from the back, as shown today, and that has been a pivotal park of our amazing run
Give it a rest, Filo, FFS. Yes, TLT has been fantastic, but that incident was HIS fault, not Louis's or anyone else's.
Give our young players some bloody encouragement.
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Scawsby - a bit OTT and pointed at Filo, there mate. For the record, Jones makes me nervous too. Absolutely true TLT messed up there and had a major brain fart, but i don't see what Filo has said wrong by expressing his view that "we’re going to miss Tutala in the play offs" and "it makes me more nervous with him in goal".
I'm very relieved it seems to be a ONE game ban and not a THREE.
Should also add - nothing in those opinions means we won't support those who do play.
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Agree SS. Well said
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Jones only has to play one game and TLT will be back for the other two. We are hardly going to lose just because Jones plays one game. We still have one hell of a squad in front of him.
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Great achievement and great save from Jones near the end, but the difference between the two is night and day, we’re going to miss Tutala in the play offs
FILO is spot on ImO different as night and day. Of course we all want Jones to have a great game and we will be all routing for him.
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Jones never had a settled squad never mind back four in all his games. With Woods and Anderson in front, they will be talking to him a lot and encouraging
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I do not pretend to be knowledgable but can use Google .If the handling stopped an obvious goal then it is a red card (and three games suspension ?)if not leading to an obvious goal then it should only be. a yellow Now thst will be a hell of a decision to make by EFL if we appeal because if rescinded it amounts to saying the ref was wrong
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My lad just looked it up. Says that offence is a 2 match ban
Where did he see this, cos I found this:
S4 Denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball - 1 match
S5 Denies an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence
punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick - 1 match
My research confirms it at 1 as well. I suspect TLT may well have lost his bearings so it was not entirely deliberate, but the ref was right.
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Some of you are seriously missing the point ... no one on this forum denies that TLT is our best keeper... it's about being pragmatic in the situation we are in.
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Let’s wait and see.
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It’s one match.
It’s in the FA’s Essential Information document for players. I’ll try find a link.
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That was as resolute as it comes today. Really stood tall when we were ten men. They did look tired in first half and that second half cannot have helped.
What was wrong with Biggins?
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https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/player-essentials
You can download the document and it’s clear, 1 match for handball DOGSO.
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https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/player-essentials
You can download the document and it’s clear, 1 match for handball DOGSO.
But does it carry over into the playoffs as they aren't regular season games as such
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Louis handled himself fantastically well. Its a poor OP for me this , very poor.
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https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/player-essentials
You can download the document and it’s clear, 1 match for handball DOGSO.
But does it carry over into the playoffs as they aren't regular season games as such
The objective is punishment and it would be contorted logic if it were not the following one in the same competition.
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Great achievement and great save from Jones near the end, but the difference between the two is night and day, we’re going to miss Tutala in the play offs
Give over you numpty. We need to build the players up at this stage.
It’s a discussion, I hope Jones has a blinder in the play offs, but it makes me more nervous with him in goal that is a fact, he’s not confident in playing out from the back, as shown today, and that has been a pivotal park of our amazing run
You really think he’s going to risk playing out from the back when we’re down to 10?
Give the lad a break. He’s not perfect, but he’s what we’ve got, so get behind him and let him know we’re all right behind him to will him on
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He wasn’t thinking about the playoffs for sure, but brainfart? It was purely muscle memory. Between him and the defence it was a lack of communication
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Nobody wants Jones to fail ….. Filo is highlighting, correctly, that TLT is a superior goalkeeper and therefore if he (TLT) is not playing then we are at a disadvantage. He is not saying he wants Jones to have a mare …. He wants him to be brilliant The fact is we are a weaker team (if only marginal) with TLT not available to play
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Nobody wants Jones to fail ….. Filo is highlighting, correctly, that TLT is a superior goalkeeper and therefore if he (TLT) is not playing then we are at a disadvantage. He is not saying he wants Jones to have a mare …. He wants him to be brilliant The fact is we are a weaker team (if only marginal) with TLT not available to play
Why highlight it at all? We all know that TLT is superior to Louis, but we also know that TLT is out for the first leg, and that's the situation we're stuck with.
Filo's OP has added nothing of relevance or encouragement to our situation.
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As mentioned earlier, very poor OP we all know the score and don't need to be told about capabilities.
Lets not smash the confidence of our home grown talent, Jones is a professional keeper and will do us fine.
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There is a few things at play here;
FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.
FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.
IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appeal
Personally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.
At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.
He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.
COYR!!!!
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Again, its a shocking OP. Lets celebrate an get behind Louis!
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I’m just thankful that we have a back up keeper who we know to be capable at this level and who has already played 20 odd league games this season. I’d be more concerned if we had a novice between the sticks.
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Not sure I get the pile on here. Lo Tutala has been a huge part of our run, there’s no debate about that. If Jones was anywhere near as good as him, we wouldn’t have brought him in in the first place.
The timing of posting it is maybe questionable but that doesn’t make the point any less pertinent. Hopefully Jones deputises well.
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Can't believe this is the main topic of conversation after this huge achievement.
We should be euphoric about McCann and ALL the players that have contributed where we had no choice but to limit the mistakes and take our chances to win our way to the play offs against some good opposition.
Our job isn't done yet. We need to raise this team to even higher levels and not get week kneed at the first sign of difficulty.
Everyone behind Louis goal needs to show the love, just as we have for the rest of the players thus far.
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Mixed opinions about my OP, I stand by what I say, I also agree we should get behind him, my concerns still stand, Wood was offering himself for the playout every goalkick but Jones ignored him everytime, lack of confidence? I get the point about playing out with only 10 men, but almost every goalkick came straight back at us. If a professional footballer takes to heart what is said on a fans forum, he really shouldn’t be a professional footballer
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There is a few things at play here;
FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.
FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.
IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appeal
Personally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.
At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.
He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.
COYR!!!!
TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a corner
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There is a few things at play here;
FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.
FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.
IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appeal
Personally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.
At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.
He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.
COYR!!!!
TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a corner
No way does that win an appeal, take the one game ban and move on
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There is a few things at play here;
FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.
FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.
IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appeal
Personally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.
At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.
He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.
COYR!!!!
TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a corner
This.
I haven’t had the benefit of seeing highlights yet but my thoughts at the time were that Baileys header was not going into the goal and that our defenders would have got to the ball before any Gills player.
I agree that the red card was right but I don’t think it was a DOGSO offence.
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Stop the video on the skylights.
Sterry heads the ball. As TLT palms it there are 3 Rovers players ahead of the Gillingham attacker, there is no way he’s clear on goal, or neither would he get the ball if TLT had missed it.
Defo appeal
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There is a few things at play here;
FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.
FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.
IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appeal
Personally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.
At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.
He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.
COYR!!!!
TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a corner
This.
I haven’t had the benefit of seeing highlights yet but my thoughts at the time were that Baileys header was not going into the goal and that our defenders would have got to the ball before any Gills player.
I agree that the red card was right but I don’t think it was a DOGSO offence.
Two points,
1) it was Sterry’s header
2) if it’s not a DOGSO offence it’s not a red card
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Is that a two or three match ban?
One match ban
COYR
having seen highlights I think they have good grounds for appeal as he wasn’t denying a goal scoring opportunity and 3 covering defenders,wasn’t going in and the striker wasn’t getting there
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There is a few things at play here;
FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.
FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.
IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appeal
Personally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.
At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.
He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.
COYR!!!!
TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a corner
This.
I haven’t had the benefit of seeing highlights yet but my thoughts at the time were that Baileys header was not going into the goal and that our defenders would have got to the ball before any Gills player.
I agree that the red card was right but I don’t think it was a DOGSO offence.
Two points,
1) it was Sterry’s header
2) if it’s not a DOGSO offence it’s not a red card
Ok, I got who headed it wrong but that is irrelevant.
Deliberate handball outside the box, no doubt, but I’m not arguing about that.
I’m agreeing that TLT might get away with a suspension if it can be proved that the handball didn’t stop a scoring opportunity.
That is referring to the IFAB ruling mentioned by Ryaldinho.
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I actually think it's a yellow. If you watch the highlights, it was going away from goal and there were three defenders beteeen the ball and the striker. Not a clear goal scoring opportunity.
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Is that a two or three match ban?
One match ban
COYR
having seen highlights I think they have good grounds for appeal as he wasn’t denying a goal scoring opportunity and 3 covering defenders,wasn’t going in and the striker wasn’t getting there
Just seen it and my first impression was TLT didn't give the ref a choice with the deliberate nature of the handball, irrespective of what might, or might not have happened after.
Bit of a rush of blood there from TLT there, he didn't need to come that far out, Shame really but that's the high pressure nature of football.
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Is that a two or three match ban?
One match ban
COYR
having seen highlights I think they have good grounds for appeal as he wasn’t denying a goal scoring opportunity and 3 covering defenders,wasn’t going in and the striker wasn’t getting there
Just seen it and my first impression was TLT didn't give the ref a choice with the deliberate nature of the handball, irrespective of what might, or might not have happened after.
Bit of a rush of blood there from TLT there, he didn't need to come that far out, Shame really but that's the high pressure nature of football.
If only we had VAR. :chair:
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There is a few things at play here;
FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.
FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.
IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appeal
Personally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.
At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.
He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.
COYR!!!!
TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a corner
This.
I haven’t had the benefit of seeing highlights yet but my thoughts at the time were that Baileys header was not going into the goal and that our defenders would have got to the ball before any Gills player.
I agree that the red card was right but I don’t think it was a DOGSO offence.
Two points,
1) it was Sterry’s header
2) if it’s not a DOGSO offence it’s not a red card
Ok, I got who headed it wrong but that is irrelevant.
Deliberate handball outside the box, no doubt, but I’m not arguing about that.
I’m agreeing that TLT might get away with a suspension if it can be proved that the handball didn’t stop a scoring opportunity.
That is referring to the IFAB ruling mentioned by Ryaldinho.
You agree it was a red card, on what grounds if you think it was not DOGSO?
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There is a few things at play here;
FA - Suspensions carry over to playoffs but accumulated yellows do not - this would mean TLT is suspended.
FA - Straight red card for professional foul carries a punishment of 1 game ban - TLT would be suspended for 1 game.
IFAB guidance is that once a keeper leaves his area he falls under the same rules as a 'normal player' as such cannot handle the ball. If a keeper handles the ball outside the area it should be a YELLOW card unless denying a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity - If DRFC feels it wasn't an obvious goal or goal scoring opportunity (No of defenders) we could appeal
Personally I think it's a 1 game ban, take it, have the week training Jones with the team how to play out from back a little bit as the team now do.
At the end of the day, if the other 10 players do their jobs none of us should be worried about the keeper.
He is a local.lad who will be desperate to do his best and keep a clean sheet, let's back the lad.
COYR!!!!
TLT May get away with this, Sterry dealt with it, if the keeper doesn’t touch it the ball is heading wide of the goal and no opponent is clean through, and it was quite a strong header, possibly the ball is heading out for a corner
This.
I haven’t had the benefit of seeing highlights yet but my thoughts at the time were that Baileys header was not going into the goal and that our defenders would have got to the ball before any Gills player.
I agree that the red card was right but I don’t think it was a DOGSO offence.
Two points,
1) it was Sterry’s header
2) if it’s not a DOGSO offence it’s not a red card
Ok, I got who headed it wrong but that is irrelevant.
Deliberate handball outside the box, no doubt, but I’m not arguing about that.
I’m agreeing that TLT might get away with a suspension if it can be proved that the handball didn’t stop a scoring opportunity.
That is referring to the IFAB ruling mentioned by Ryaldinho.
You agree it was a red card, on what grounds if you think it was not DOGSO?
Having read back through my posts, I have missed a “d” off agree.
Meaning I had agreed that it was a red card offence at the time but didn’t know there was a possible yellow card if it wasn’t a DOGSO.
Now that I am agreeing with what Ryaldinho has written.
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I actually think it's a yellow. If you watch the highlights, it was going away from goal and there were three defenders beteeen the ball and the striker. Not a clear goal scoring opportunity.
EXACTLY correct
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I actually think it's a yellow. If you watch the highlights, it was going away from goal and there were three defenders beteeen the ball and the striker. Not a clear goal scoring opportunity.
EXACTLY correct
Are there any precedents for success in this situation? The question of OGSO is largely one of judgement and it is one situation when the referee is probably quite reasonably adjudged to be the best person to make such a decision. It is not a question of being able to look at it technically as with a VAR offside decision where it is a question of fact.
Perhaps it would be unlikely that the appeal would be judged frivolous, but dare we take even the slightest risk in the circumstances?
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Probably worth an appeal. It’s certainly an interesting one.
Is the header 100% going wide and if not does it have enough power to go in the goal? TLT obviously thought he was stopping it going in the goal, that’s why he did what he did.
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I don’t think it’s a red. There’s 3 covering players in front of their attacker that would clearly of got there first.
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It's questionable but you don't often win appeals for these kind of things. In real time it looked a no brainer, watching it back the defenders look to have it covered.
If we were nottm forest we would be tweeting about an American ref against a club with American owners and flags all over ;)
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https://twitter.com/drfc_official/status/1784500299190726966?t=nyoMawu1k3fr9430kTiduA&s=19
One game confirmation. Someone tell 'em to appeal it.
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Great, in this thread we have had one, two and three match bans, and also no ban.
John Coyle who is right on most matters football, reckons one match ban.
Never doubt the OG. He's is rarely wrong.
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What’s happened to Lawler? Is he injured?
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An appeal risks a sanction of extending a suspension? If the panel accept the ref acted in good faith from what he could have seen and judged at the time, then they will surely back him?
Jones will be fine, let’s just prepare for the first game?
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The club must have thought we can live without him for one game and it’s not worth the risk. Go away from home, dig in, Nick a goal whatever it is…bring them back to the EP and destroy them.
Not Jones biggest fan but we have to get behind him. That save near the end was superb.
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The club must have thought we can live without him for one game and it’s not worth the risk. Go away from home, dig in, Nick a goal whatever it is…bring them back to the EP and destroy them.
Not Jones biggest fan but we have to get behind him. That save near the end was superb.
We can do more than just Nick a goal mush.
We need to really get at them. No way we should rely on the 2nd leg to beat them.
We are on a roll Crewe are in awful form.
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The club must have thought we can live without him for one game and it’s not worth the risk. Go away from home, dig in, Nick a goal whatever it is…bring them back to the EP and destroy them.
Not Jones biggest fan but we have to get behind him. That save near the end was superb.
We can do more than just Nick a goal mush.
We need to really get at them. No way we should rely on the 2nd leg to beat them.
We are on a roll Crewe are in awful form.
I completely agree but we have to an acknowledge losing TLT is huge. It’s not just about who is the better goalie. He’s a massive part of how we play.
Agree we should be going there to win though and confident we will.
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It's a blow but we can adapt. Any promotion team has to be able to adapt at some point. If we kept this dream alive by playing with 10 men twice, then we should be confident playing with a full XI on the pitch no matter who's between the sticks.
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What’s happened to Lawler? Is he injured?
He is injured.
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Appeal probably had no chance of getting through. They tend to go with the on field decision unless it's really, obviously wrong. Even though you could argue this should only be a yellow, you generally need something more concrete than that.
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We just need to take the 1 match ban and get on with it.
I'd put nothing past this lot, if we remember when JR appealed a very poor and obviously wrong decision we then had some really dodgy decisions go our way for a while.
Its like they would admit being wrong but then hold it against you and also never give you the benefit of doubt in any close decision after.
Crooked and incompetent.
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As much as I dislike VAR TLT would’ve got a yellow instead of his red and Maxwell a penalty yesterday.
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TLT is the better keeper, but he’s also hugely influential in the improvement of the defensive unit.
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TLT is the better keeper, but he’s also hugely influential in the improvement of the defensive unit.
I would say he’s also influential in the way we attack and build from the back