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Quote from: CottyRover on July 13, 2018, 07:37:58 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 07:14:19 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 06:53:19 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 06:39:18 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 06:31:22 pmI wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?" I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.I'm not sure which part of what Hoden says is unsubstantiated? Are you suggesting Grant McCann didn't say these things to Hoden or are you insinuating Hoden is lying? I'm saying that Hoden has reported an interview, and quoted McCann heavily from it, then written a headline that the interview itself doesn't mention. It is that headline that is unsubstantiated - unless perhaps I've missed it and you can point me to where McCann says in the interview what his future transfer plans are?I'm not saying Hoden is lying. McCann may very well have said what Hoden says he did. It's just extremely odd for Hoden not to then include it in the reported interview...which is bloody awful journalism!To be fair to Liam Hoden, does he actually get to write the headline or does that fall to some sub editor? Whoever it is, it's them to blame for all this because people are reading the headline and believing it without reading the article and realising it's crap. And then it's getting posted all over there as true.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 07:14:19 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 06:53:19 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 06:39:18 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 06:31:22 pmI wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?" I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.I'm not sure which part of what Hoden says is unsubstantiated? Are you suggesting Grant McCann didn't say these things to Hoden or are you insinuating Hoden is lying? I'm saying that Hoden has reported an interview, and quoted McCann heavily from it, then written a headline that the interview itself doesn't mention. It is that headline that is unsubstantiated - unless perhaps I've missed it and you can point me to where McCann says in the interview what his future transfer plans are?I'm not saying Hoden is lying. McCann may very well have said what Hoden says he did. It's just extremely odd for Hoden not to then include it in the reported interview...which is bloody awful journalism!To be fair to Liam Hoden, does he actually get to write the headline or does that fall to some sub editor?
Quote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 06:53:19 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 06:39:18 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 06:31:22 pmI wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?" I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.I'm not sure which part of what Hoden says is unsubstantiated? Are you suggesting Grant McCann didn't say these things to Hoden or are you insinuating Hoden is lying? I'm saying that Hoden has reported an interview, and quoted McCann heavily from it, then written a headline that the interview itself doesn't mention. It is that headline that is unsubstantiated - unless perhaps I've missed it and you can point me to where McCann says in the interview what his future transfer plans are?I'm not saying Hoden is lying. McCann may very well have said what Hoden says he did. It's just extremely odd for Hoden not to then include it in the reported interview...which is bloody awful journalism!
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 06:39:18 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 06:31:22 pmI wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?" I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.I'm not sure which part of what Hoden says is unsubstantiated? Are you suggesting Grant McCann didn't say these things to Hoden or are you insinuating Hoden is lying?
Quote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 06:31:22 pmI wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?" I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.
I wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?"
McCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.Interpretation?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 07:48:52 pmQuote from: CottyRover on July 13, 2018, 07:37:58 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 07:14:19 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 06:53:19 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 06:39:18 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 06:31:22 pmI wonder if Liam Hoden ever thinks to himself. "Why do I bother?" I wonder why he bothers writing a headline that isn't substantiated by what he then writes in the article underneath it. If it isn't deliberate clickbait, at best it's bloody awful journalism.I'm not sure which part of what Hoden says is unsubstantiated? Are you suggesting Grant McCann didn't say these things to Hoden or are you insinuating Hoden is lying? I'm saying that Hoden has reported an interview, and quoted McCann heavily from it, then written a headline that the interview itself doesn't mention. It is that headline that is unsubstantiated - unless perhaps I've missed it and you can point me to where McCann says in the interview what his future transfer plans are?I'm not saying Hoden is lying. McCann may very well have said what Hoden says he did. It's just extremely odd for Hoden not to then include it in the reported interview...which is bloody awful journalism!To be fair to Liam Hoden, does he actually get to write the headline or does that fall to some sub editor? Whoever it is, it's them to blame for all this because people are reading the headline and believing it without reading the article and realising it's crap. And then it's getting posted all over there as true.I'm sorry but I have read the headline and the article and cannot see how you come to the conclusion it's crap. Perhaps you could explain.
Quote from: Alan Southstand on July 13, 2018, 02:26:49 pmBe dale - are you serious?The Board's stated aim this season is top 6, not bottom 6! We are nowhere near a strong enough squad to challenge the upper reaches of this division......yet. It is to be hoped that there are a couple of rabbits yet to be pulled out of the proverbial hat.Do you think that Shrewsbury players and fans thought they would be top six?Do you think Leicester thought they would win the premier league?What we think and what happens are two different thingsIt is all about the team and how the gel and how well they perform collectively Games are won on grass not on paperQuote from: godlike1 on July 13, 2018, 03:11:53 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on July 13, 2018, 02:19:57 pmhttps://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195If he believes that then let’s hope it’s just talk because if it’s actually the case we won’t be good enough for top 10 in my opinion I’d agree with that, there are no signs off a push for promotion with this team at this moment in time. Quote from: godlike1 on July 13, 2018, 03:11:53 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on July 13, 2018, 02:19:57 pmhttps://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195If he believes that then let’s hope it’s just talk because if it’s actually the case we won’t be good enough for top 10 in my opinion I’d agree with that, there are no signs off a push for promotion with this team at this moment in time. Has the season started then?
Be dale - are you serious?The Board's stated aim this season is top 6, not bottom 6! We are nowhere near a strong enough squad to challenge the upper reaches of this division......yet. It is to be hoped that there are a couple of rabbits yet to be pulled out of the proverbial hat.
Quote from: steve@dcfd on July 13, 2018, 02:19:57 pmhttps://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195If he believes that then let’s hope it’s just talk because if it’s actually the case we won’t be good enough for top 10 in my opinion I’d agree with that, there are no signs off a push for promotion with this team at this moment in time.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-not-planning-much-more-business-in-transfer-market-1-9250195If he believes that then let’s hope it’s just talk because if it’s actually the case we won’t be good enough for top 10 in my opinion
No matter how much the VSC try to defend the current situation there is an awful lot of dissatisfied fans out there unhappy with the the way things currently are.I would like to see the club offer refunds to unhappy fans that don't see their ticket money spent wisely. I have read little that is positive (other than from the VSC) about where we are going.https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/doncaster-rovers-hoping-youth-paves-the-way-to-fame-and-fortune/We have now sunk to 19th on the bookies site https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/league-1/winnerHardly what I would expect for what we are being told will be a top 6 position at the end of the season.
Quote from: steve@dcfd on July 13, 2018, 07:59:16 pmMcCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.Interpretation?And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.
The VSC and posters in the pockets of the club can say what they want but the wider world knows better. Of course the VSC will say "everyone everywhere is talking b*llocks and got it wrong".
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 08:14:48 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on July 13, 2018, 07:59:16 pmMcCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.Interpretation?And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.OK so you are saying Hoden is lying then fair enough.
Cantley, you should know that everyone, everywhere is a liar except the VSC and DROS. So say the VSC.
Quote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 08:22:08 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 08:14:48 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on July 13, 2018, 07:59:16 pmMcCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.Interpretation?And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.OK so you are saying Hoden is lying then fair enough. Putting words in my mouth isn't fair enough but it's obviously your stock in trade to justify what you say.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 08:25:04 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 08:22:08 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 08:14:48 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on July 13, 2018, 07:59:16 pmMcCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.Interpretation?And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.OK so you are saying Hoden is lying then fair enough. Putting words in my mouth isn't fair enough but it's obviously your stock in trade to justify what you say.But if you are disputing that Grant McCann said what Liam Hoden printed then obviously the only conclusion to come to is that you think he is not telling the truth ie lying.
Quote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 08:30:20 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 08:25:04 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 08:22:08 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 08:14:48 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on July 13, 2018, 07:59:16 pmMcCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.Interpretation?And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.OK so you are saying Hoden is lying then fair enough. Putting words in my mouth isn't fair enough but it's obviously your stock in trade to justify what you say.But if you are disputing that Grant McCann said what Liam Hoden printed then obviously the only conclusion to come to is that you think he is not telling the truth ie lying. So he couldn't be mistaken at all then?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 08:31:27 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 08:30:20 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 08:25:04 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on July 13, 2018, 08:22:08 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 13, 2018, 08:14:48 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on July 13, 2018, 07:59:16 pmMcCann admits he would be satisfied with his lot in the transfer market.Which comes after the first three paragraphs which talks about the signing of Crawford and Wilks and maybe Taylor.Interpretation?And where does McCann admit it in the interview? It's Hoden's words again, not McCann's.OK so you are saying Hoden is lying then fair enough. Putting words in my mouth isn't fair enough but it's obviously your stock in trade to justify what you say.But if you are disputing that Grant McCann said what Liam Hoden printed then obviously the only conclusion to come to is that you think he is not telling the truth ie lying. So he couldn't be mistaken at all then?Come on you can do better than that.
Apparently McCann is now finished in the transfer market, so we have a youth team player from Leeds and a Scottish midfielder to add to the squad that finished a relatively comfortable lower mid-table last season. So where is the vast improvement going to come from to "push for the top 6"? I can't see it myself. I wish I could be proved wrong.
A serious lack of ambition and More interested in club Doncaster that’s the problem
At this moment we have no idea whether McCann is better or worse than Ferguson only time will tell, but we shouldn't assume he is better. Ferguson was not sacked he resigned out of despair with where the club is going and we can all see why. I don't understand why there is not more money in the coffers this year. Have we massively undersold season tickets or what? I don't remember having such severe issues in the last several years. We normally make what we can consider reasonable signings most summers.
Quote from: Danmckay456 on July 13, 2018, 11:31:22 pmA serious lack of ambition and More interested in club Doncaster that’s the problemGood if they're interested in something (Club Doncaster) that'll increase our transfer budget.