Viking Supporters Co-operative
Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: donnydogk9 on April 14, 2023, 01:20:29 pm
-
So this budget injection was all smoke and mirrors as we thought…
-
Money will be spent on wages, they may be free agents but they still want paying
-
Who said we’d be BUYING players ? Name them…
-
You want us blowing 6 figure transfer fees on every player?
It’s about wages offered to those with expiring contracts at this level. That’s where the money will be useful if spent well.
-
What was Messi’s last transfer fee
-
So this budget injection was all smoke and mirrors as we thought…
Answer me this question DonnyDogk9, how can we buy players in mid April ? Do you know of some secret transfer window or do those things only exist in football games played on a computer
-
So this budget injection was all smoke and mirrors as we thought…
Who's this "we" you're talking about?
I've read TB's statement, but obviously not you. How dare you claim anybody else is as blinkered as you are?
-
Who buys players in the modern day? Barely anybody.
-
Who buys players in the modern day? Barely anybody.
Exactly hence the Messi comment
-
The ‘Significant Funds’ may be to cover the loss in revenue from Gate Money a, ally us to keep our current squad and main our strong mid to lower mid table position in this League.
-
The ‘Significant Funds’ may be to cover the loss in revenue from Gate Money a, ally us to keep our current squad and main our strong mid to lower mid table position in this League.
It's not. The funds for next season have already been ring fenced. That means that no matter what contribution the rest of CD contributes the playing budget will not be affected.
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
-
It’s a tired interview I’m afraid literally. Saying players want to sign for us because how we play? Really? We are the worst performing team in the entire football league over the last 100 games or so, results wise. Too much emphasis I feel on signing players with character to fit into the nicey squad we have. Just sign some players with desire and ultimately who are actually good at football.
January was an appalling window. Lavery 1 goal and injured, (he’s always had injury issues) Larkin injured looked ok nothing more, Brown, overall been poor, Todd Miller, no idea why he was signed, Nelson is a player with potential no doubt. 2 players to leave Knoyle and Clayton both doing well at promotion chasing clubs.
On the point of Agard Copps said he’s come in and done really well. So in that case, have questions not been asked as to why he’s not been getting more game time a lot sooner with our woes upfront? Would he have been a foil for Miller? We will never know when he DS persists with this 541 formation.
I really do love Copps but I really fear he’s turned to the dark side. Just seems oblivious to the disaster which continues to unfold around him.
-
Lower leagues moving players on and contracts expiring is the norm, not many teams spend transfer money. We are releasing upwards of 10? 15? for example. If the money is for wages etc and signing on fees for free agents this is a good thing.
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
Clueless
-
That’s where the money will be useful if spent well.
Agree wholeheartedly, nc.
So, come on then, who’s confident that it’s going to be ‘spent well’?
-
How can anyone be confident unless you're Pep Guardiola and even he might have some restrictions imposed on him.
-
Did you manage to get in the boardroom k9?
-
The issue isn’t the money, it’s how badly it has been spent. Unless we’ve dramatically improved our recruitment this poor guy fast approaching 80 is going to see yet more of his cash pissed away on the mad, bad and dangerous to know.
-
The point about how the money is spent is the bit that hasn’t been addressed. People criticise Copps interview because it doesn’t really provide any real direction or detail of what we’re after. Just “quality” which is worrying that it needs saying.
It’s probably harsh but when he’s no track record and the club is where it is peoples default is scepticism.
I’d feel a bit more confident if he said we need x type of player who is for x position because we’ve lost points due to x. Then if he’s identifying what we can all see and things we can’t you’d at least know they know what the problem is.
Concern is we spend signing a load of lightweights who are technically good but can’t impose themselves. From last summer it looks like that’s what we went for.
-
The point about how the money is spent is the bit that hasn’t been addressed. People criticise Copps interview because it doesn’t really provide any real direction or detail of what we’re after. Just “quality” which is worrying that it needs saying.
It’s probably harsh but when he’s no track record and the club is where it is peoples default is scepticism.
I’d feel a bit more confident if he said we need x type of player who is for x position because we’ve lost points due to x. Then if he’s identifying what we can all see and things we can’t you’d at least know they know what the problem is.
Concern is we spend signing a load of lightweights who are technically good but can’t impose themselves. From last summer it looks like that’s what we went for.
Managers/head coaches/HoF are very rarely that specific.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but there weren't that many reacting negatively when we signed Miller, Molyneux, Maxwell, Biggins, Tomlin, Andrews, Long etc.
Even JR said he thought another promotion season was on it's way.
-
He also mentioned the right character and leadership qualities as well as being the right age, but if being selective suits your agenda that's fine
-
He also mentioned the right character and leadership qualities as well as being the right age, but if being selective suits your agenda that's fine
What agenda. All those things “right age” “leadership” “right character” will have been said last season, the season before and the season before many times over. What does that even mean. Were we looking for the wrong characters before or the wrong age (what is the right age) or seeking out those lacking leadership.
I said it’s a harsh comment but was pointing out why I can understand some concern. If he had any kind of record and just said the usual manager type answers that say nothing no one would be bothered in the slightest.
-
The point about how the money is spent is the bit that hasn’t been addressed. People criticise Copps interview because it doesn’t really provide any real direction or detail of what we’re after. Just “quality” which is worrying that it needs saying.
It’s probably harsh but when he’s no track record and the club is where it is peoples default is scepticism.
I’d feel a bit more confident if he said we need x type of player who is for x position because we’ve lost points due to x. Then if he’s identifying what we can all see and things we can’t you’d at least know they know what the problem is.
Concern is we spend signing a load of lightweights who are technically good but can’t impose themselves. From last summer it looks like that’s what we went for.
He’s not Going to tell everyone what player he’s after though is he, nobody in their right mind would do that
-
Really bad form to continue to criticise the cash injection that TB has committed to until as such a time as we see(or not)the results of its value.
As for Copps interview, what do people really expect him to say. "we have cash, please come and relive me of loads of it" its just not going to be the case that the HOF should be seen to advertise the fact, its hard enough to get suitable players in through the door without making them even more expensive.
What we should all do now is give Copps the time and space to function without too much pressure, this going wrong this time really could make or break the club for many, we need it to work, he certainly does, regardless as to what the future of the head coach is to be this in itself needs to work for all our sakes.
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
I always thought you were all reasonably ‘bright’ people, alas it seems not. Just get some old fashioned graph paper and plot our decline on it, you don’t need Excel to see the obvious downward spiral. Which, may I add continues at a pace.
Dickos is severely deluded by the way.
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
I always thought you were all reasonably ‘bright’ people, alas it seems not. Just get some old fashioned graph paper and plot our decline on it, you don’t need Excel to see the obvious downward spiral. Which, may I add continues at a pace.
Dickos is severely deluded by the way.
You predicted we would go down this season, you should be delighted that we aren’t.
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
I always thought you were all reasonably ‘bright’ people, alas it seems not. Just get some old fashioned graph paper and plot our decline on it, you don’t need Excel to see the obvious downward spiral. Which, may I add continues at a pace.
Dickos is severely deluded by the way.
You predicted we would go down this season, you should be delighted that we aren’t.
Wrong! As usual! If you actually got your head out of your arse mate, I never said this. What I actually said was, we would finish bottom half this season and go down next. Which alas, we are well on track to do. Smell the coffee pal for once in your life AND get your facts right.
-
He also mentioned the right character and leadership qualities as well as being the right age, but if being selective suits your agenda that's fine
What agenda. All those things “right age” “leadership” “right character” will have been said last season, the season before and the season before many times over. What does that even mean. Were we looking for the wrong characters before or the wrong age (what is the right age) or seeking out those lacking leadership.
I said it’s a harsh comment but was pointing out why I can understand some concern. If he had any kind of record and just said the usual manager type answers that say nothing no one would be bothered in the slightest.
But you decided to just mention quality and ignored the other attributes
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
I always thought you were all reasonably ‘bright’ people, alas it seems not. Just get some old fashioned graph paper and plot our decline on it, you don’t need Excel to see the obvious downward spiral. Which, may I add continues at a pace.
Dickos is severely deluded by the way.
You predicted we would go down this season, you should be delighted that we aren’t.
Wrong! As usual! If you actually got your head out of your arse mate, I never said this. What I actually said was, we would finish bottom half this season and go down next. Which alas, we are well on track to do. Smell the coffee pal for once in your life AND get your facts right.
You’re that clueless, you’re even forgetting the negative drivel you post.
All these quotes were from you last season.
I can see us doing a Scunny. The rot will not stop And then the national league, the season after that. and Wellens seems to be doing his best at leaving the doors and windows open, whilst it’s pissing down.
Down and down again next year. Owners not interested. The club is only going one way and has been for a while.
By 2023 we’ll have the best ground in the conference. That is where we are heading under the current regime. It’s not so much a slide more of a free fall. I’m not saying the current owners should go because there is no one lining up. We just need to prepare ourselves, it’s happening.
It’s very sad to say but I think he may be correct. The clubs downward trajectory, both on and off the pitch is there to see. The owners’ and leaders general inertia to club has got me thinking we will be next seasons Scunny. I am so convinced I’m going to have a look at the odds to ease the pain.
And then the national league, the season after that.
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
I always thought you were all reasonably ‘bright’ people, alas it seems not. Just get some old fashioned graph paper and plot our decline on it, you don’t need Excel to see the obvious downward spiral. Which, may I add continues at a pace.
Dickos is severely deluded by the way.
You predicted we would go down this season, you should be delighted that we aren’t.
Wrong! As usual! If you actually got your head out of your arse mate, I never said this. What I actually said was, we would finish bottom half this season and go down next. Which alas, we are well on track to do. Smell the coffee pal for once in your life AND get your facts right.
You’re that clueless, you’re even forgetting the negative drivel you post.
All these quotes were from you last season.
I can see us doing a Scunny. The rot will not stop And then the national league, the season after that. and Wellens seems to be doing his best at leaving the doors and windows open, whilst it’s pissing down.
Down and down again next year. Owners not interested. The club is only going one way and has been for a while.
By 2023 we’ll have the best ground in the conference. That is where we are heading under the current regime. It’s not so much a slide more of a free fall. I’m not saying the current owners should go because there is no one lining up. We just need to prepare ourselves, it’s happening.
It’s very sad to say but I think he may be correct. The clubs downward trajectory, both on and off the pitch is there to see. The owners’ and leaders general inertia to club has got me thinking we will be next seasons Scunny. I am so convinced I’m going to have a look at the odds to ease the pain.
And then the national league, the season after that.
Lol, own goal as usual, all the above is actually coming to light, the problem is your insight and you just can’t see it mate. Thanks for the 20 minutes of research mind. And where in the above did I actually say ‘we would go down this year’ ?
-
Who buys players in the modern day? Barely anybody.
Stockport
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
I always thought you were all reasonably ‘bright’ people, alas it seems not. Just get some old fashioned graph paper and plot our decline on it, you don’t need Excel to see the obvious downward spiral. Which, may I add continues at a pace.
Dickos is severely deluded by the way.
You predicted we would go down this season, you should be delighted that we aren’t.
Wrong! As usual! If you actually got your head out of your arse mate, I never said this. What I actually said was, we would finish bottom half this season and go down next. Which alas, we are well on track to do. Smell the coffee pal for once in your life AND get your facts right.
You’re that clueless, you’re even forgetting the negative drivel you post.
All these quotes were from you last season.
I can see us doing a Scunny. The rot will not stop And then the national league, the season after that. and Wellens seems to be doing his best at leaving the doors and windows open, whilst it’s pissing down.
Down and down again next year. Owners not interested. The club is only going one way and has been for a while.
By 2023 we’ll have the best ground in the conference. That is where we are heading under the current regime. It’s not so much a slide more of a free fall. I’m not saying the current owners should go because there is no one lining up. We just need to prepare ourselves, it’s happening.
It’s very sad to say but I think he may be correct. The clubs downward trajectory, both on and off the pitch is there to see. The owners’ and leaders general inertia to club has got me thinking we will be next seasons Scunny. I am so convinced I’m going to have a look at the odds to ease the pain.
And then the national league, the season after that.
Looks like we're doing better this season than he thought we were going to do. Some people are never happy!
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
I always thought you were all reasonably ‘bright’ people, alas it seems not. Just get some old fashioned graph paper and plot our decline on it, you don’t need Excel to see the obvious downward spiral. Which, may I add continues at a pace.
Dickos is severely deluded by the way.
You predicted we would go down this season, you should be delighted that we aren’t.
Wrong! As usual! If you actually got your head out of your arse mate, I never said this. What I actually said was, we would finish bottom half this season and go down next. Which alas, we are well on track to do. Smell the coffee pal for once in your life AND get your facts right.
You’re that clueless, you’re even forgetting the negative drivel you post.
All these quotes were from you last season.
I can see us doing a Scunny. The rot will not stop And then the national league, the season after that. and Wellens seems to be doing his best at leaving the doors and windows open, whilst it’s pissing down.
Down and down again next year. Owners not interested. The club is only going one way and has been for a while.
By 2023 we’ll have the best ground in the conference. That is where we are heading under the current regime. It’s not so much a slide more of a free fall. I’m not saying the current owners should go because there is no one lining up. We just need to prepare ourselves, it’s happening.
It’s very sad to say but I think he may be correct. The clubs downward trajectory, both on and off the pitch is there to see. The owners’ and leaders general inertia to club has got me thinking we will be next seasons Scunny. I am so convinced I’m going to have a look at the odds to ease the pain.
And then the national league, the season after that.
Lol, own goal as usual, all the above is actually coming to light, the problem is your insight and you just can’t see it mate. Thanks for the 20 minutes of research mind. And where in the above did I actually say ‘we would go down this year’ ?
Are you really this daft? ?
Each post says we will be going down next season,
These posts were all from last season
Do you understand now?
-
He also mentioned the right character and leadership qualities as well as being the right age, but if being selective suits your agenda that's fine
What agenda. All those things “right age” “leadership” “right character” will have been said last season, the season before and the season before many times over. What does that even mean. Were we looking for the wrong characters before or the wrong age (what is the right age) or seeking out those lacking leadership.
I said it’s a harsh comment but was pointing out why I can understand some concern. If he had any kind of record and just said the usual manager type answers that say nothing no one would be bothered in the slightest.
But you decided to just mention quality and ignored the other attributes
Fair enough I didn’t list everything when making a point, more to save typing as much than for a agenda. Didn’t think it necessary especially when the things I missed support what I’m saying anyway.
The point I was making is when, Hoden I presume, pushed for specifics on what we will be looking to recruit all we got were pretty basic generalities like quality. Same goes for the other attributes you mention. Again surely every signing needs to be a good character or the “right age” so does is it worth saying in the 1st place.
It’s like going to a restaurant and they say they are aiming not to give you food poisoning. It’s a given. The restaurant telling you that when you go in might give you a bit of concern.
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
I always thought you were all reasonably ‘bright’ people, alas it seems not. Just get some old fashioned graph paper and plot our decline on it, you don’t need Excel to see the obvious downward spiral. Which, may I add continues at a pace.
Dickos is severely deluded by the way.
You predicted we would go down this season, you should be delighted that we aren’t.
Wrong! As usual! If you actually got your head out of your arse mate, I never said this. What I actually said was, we would finish bottom half this season and go down next. Which alas, we are well on track to do. Smell the coffee pal for once in your life AND get your facts right.
You’re that clueless, you’re even forgetting the negative drivel you post.
All these quotes were from you last season.
I can see us doing a Scunny. The rot will not stop And then the national league, the season after that. and Wellens seems to be doing his best at leaving the doors and windows open, whilst it’s pissing down.
Down and down again next year. Owners not interested. The club is only going one way and has been for a while.
By 2023 we’ll have the best ground in the conference. That is where we are heading under the current regime. It’s not so much a slide more of a free fall. I’m not saying the current owners should go because there is no one lining up. We just need to prepare ourselves, it’s happening.
It’s very sad to say but I think he may be correct. The clubs downward trajectory, both on and off the pitch is there to see. The owners’ and leaders general inertia to club has got me thinking we will be next seasons Scunny. I am so convinced I’m going to have a look at the odds to ease the pain.
And then the national league, the season after that.
Lol, own goal as usual, all the above is actually coming to light, the problem is your insight and you just can’t see it mate. Thanks for the 20 minutes of research mind. And where in the above did I actually say ‘we would go down this year’ ?
To be fair donnyjim, if those quotes are from last season then every one of them insinuate that we would be relegated this year.
-
Reading the recent posts on this forum I’m so glad these people weren’t around in 1940.
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
I always thought you were all reasonably ‘bright’ people, alas it seems not. Just get some old fashioned graph paper and plot our decline on it, you don’t need Excel to see the obvious downward spiral. Which, may I add continues at a pace.
Dickos is severely deluded by the way.
You predicted we would go down this season, you should be delighted that we aren’t.
Wrong! As usual! If you actually got your head out of your arse mate, I never said this. What I actually said was, we would finish bottom half this season and go down next. Which alas, we are well on track to do. Smell the coffee pal for once in your life AND get your facts right.
You’re that clueless, you’re even forgetting the negative drivel you post.
All these quotes were from you last season.
I can see us doing a Scunny. The rot will not stop And then the national league, the season after that. and Wellens seems to be doing his best at leaving the doors and windows open, whilst it’s pissing down.
Down and down again next year. Owners not interested. The club is only going one way and has been for a while.
By 2023 we’ll have the best ground in the conference. That is where we are heading under the current regime. It’s not so much a slide more of a free fall. I’m not saying the current owners should go because there is no one lining up. We just need to prepare ourselves, it’s happening.
It’s very sad to say but I think he may be correct. The clubs downward trajectory, both on and off the pitch is there to see. The owners’ and leaders general inertia to club has got me thinking we will be next seasons Scunny. I am so convinced I’m going to have a look at the odds to ease the pain.
And then the national league, the season after that.
Lol, own goal as usual, all the above is actually coming to light, the problem is your insight and you just can’t see it mate. Thanks for the 20 minutes of research mind. And where in the above did I actually say ‘we would go down this year’ ?
To be fair donnyjim, if those quotes are from last season then every one of them insinuate that we would be relegated this year.
“I can see us doing a Scunny. The rot will not stop And then the national league, THE SEASON AFTER THAT”
Is what I actually said, d**khead was sad sad sad enough to dig it out. He clearly has no life. Any way it’s all coming true. It’s all very sad I know but it’s reality.
-
Yep that’s correct
You said last season that we would do a scunny this season and get relegated straight to the conference.
Not sure what you’re arguing about
And it took me about 5 mins to find, because you don’t post much but when you do it’s just negative bile
-
By 2023 we will have the best ground in the conference,
What does that mean if it doesn’t mean we’re getting relegated this season.
-
He also mentioned the right character and leadership qualities as well as being the right age, but if being selective suits your agenda that's fine
What agenda. All those things “right age” “leadership” “right character” will have been said last season, the season before and the season before many times over. What does that even mean. Were we looking for the wrong characters before or the wrong age (what is the right age) or seeking out those lacking leadership.
I said it’s a harsh comment but was pointing out why I can understand some concern. If he had any kind of record and just said the usual manager type answers that say nothing no one would be bothered in the slightest.
But you decided to just mention quality and ignored the other attributes
Fair enough I didn’t list everything when making a point, more to save typing as much than for a agenda. Didn’t think it necessary especially when the things I missed support what I’m saying anyway.
The point I was making is when, Hoden I presume, pushed for specifics on what we will be looking to recruit all we got were pretty basic generalities like quality. Same goes for the other attributes you mention. Again surely every signing needs to be a good character or the “right age” so does is it worth saying in the 1st place.
It’s like going to a restaurant and they say they are aiming not to give you food poisoning. It’s a given. The restaurant telling you that when you go in might give you a bit of concern.
We need players of a different character, not the “right” one that conforms with the rest of this group. Players who are relentless and intimidating for the opposition. Players who won’t be like “oh well maybe better luck next week”. Players who won’t accept a losing mentality. Players that give us a buzz by getting stuck in and showing some passion and desire. They may not seem all nicey nice, but I bet players respect these types for helping to get the best out of a group.
-
When a guy worth hundreds of millions of pounds states he's going to make a significant financial contribution to his and your local football club you say thank you. That's it. He'll be true to his word.
-
Well that’s not very nice
-
Yep that’s correct
You said last season that we would do a scunny this season and get relegated straight to the conference.
Not sure what you’re arguing about
And it took me about 5 mins to find, because you don’t post much but when you do it’s just negative bile
You are an absolute knobhead mate and I could actual sue you for slander. I can’t be arsed to argue with you d**khead because as always I am right. The bottom line is, unless the owners put the club up for sale we are heading Scunnys way - the statistical trajectory is significant. Plot the dots and #£&@ off.
Ha ha ha
Sue me for slander, I just copied and pasted your own words.
Ha ha Tickled me that has
-
Yep that’s correct
You said last season that we would do a scunny this season and get relegated straight to the conference.
Not sure what you’re arguing about
And it took me about 5 mins to find, because you don’t post much but when you do it’s just negative bile
You are an absolute knobhead mate and I could actual sue you for slander. I can’t be arsed to argue with you d**khead because as always I am right. The bottom line is, unless the owners put the club up for sale we are heading Scunnys way - the statistical trajectory is significant. Plot the dots and #£&@ off.
Ha ha ha
Sue me for slander, I just copied and pasted your own words.
Ha ha Tickled me that has
You need to get a life mate, there is more to life than Donny Rovers believe it or not. Try walking, cycling or running. Life is too short to be obsessed with such shite.
-
Yep that’s correct
You said last season that we would do a scunny this season and get relegated straight to the conference.
Not sure what you’re arguing about
And it took me about 5 mins to find, because you don’t post much but when you do it’s just negative bile
You are an absolute knobhead mate and I could actual sue you for slander. I can’t be arsed to argue with you d**khead because as always I am right. The bottom line is, unless the owners put the club up for sale we are heading Scunnys way - the statistical trajectory is significant. Plot the dots and #£&@ off.
Ha ha ha
Sue me for slander, I just copied and pasted your own words.
Ha ha Tickled me that has
You need to get a life mate, there is more to life than Donny Rovers believe it or not. Try walking, cycling or running. Life is too short to be obsessed with such shite.
I agree a day at Donny Rovers is a nice day out, we shouldn’t take it so seriously we should be more worried if the the dustbin men went on strike. Footballers like all entertainers have a place in our wellbeing but they’re not that high up the ladder, chill is the word.
-
I seem to remember the last time we were in this division that a six figure fee was paid for Paul Heffernan, terrible, we can't spend money on transfer fees = we are not going to get anybody who will make a significant difference to the squad. That goes with the "can't be bothered with football " attitude from our owner.
-
Th clubs on its arse and dying as far as I can see.
That's Donnyjim who has predicted 9 of the last zero deaths of the club.
I always thought you were all reasonably ‘bright’ people, alas it seems not. Just get some old fashioned graph paper and plot our decline on it, you don’t need Excel to see the obvious downward spiral. Which, may I add continues at a pace.
Dickos is severely deluded by the way.
You predicted we would go down this season, you should be delighted that we aren’t.
Wrong! As usual! If you actually got your head out of your arse mate, I never said this. What I actually said was, we would finish bottom half this season and go down next. Which alas, we are well on track to do. Smell the coffee pal for once in your life AND get your facts right.
You’re that clueless, you’re even forgetting the negative drivel you post.
All these quotes were from you last season.
I can see us doing a Scunny. The rot will not stop And then the national league, the season after that. and Wellens seems to be doing his best at leaving the doors and windows open, whilst it’s pissing down.
Down and down again next year. Owners not interested. The club is only going one way and has been for a while.
By 2023 we’ll have the best ground in the conference. That is where we are heading under the current regime. It’s not so much a slide more of a free fall. I’m not saying the current owners should go because there is no one lining up. We just need to prepare ourselves, it’s happening.
It’s very sad to say but I think he may be correct. The clubs downward trajectory, both on and off the pitch is there to see. The owners’ and leaders general inertia to club has got me thinking we will be next seasons Scunny. I am so convinced I’m going to have a look at the odds to ease the pain.
And then the national league, the season after that.
Lol, own goal as usual, all the above is actually coming to light, the problem is your insight and you just can’t see it mate. Thanks for the 20 minutes of research mind. And where in the above did I actually say ‘we would go down this year’ ?
To be fair donnyjim, if those quotes are from last season then every one of them insinuate that we would be relegated this year.
let's be honest a few results going the wrong in the first few months of the season and we would probably be going down
-
I seem to remember the last time we were in this division that a six figure fee was paid for Paul Heffernan, terrible, we can't spend money on transfer fees = we are not going to get anybody who will make a significant difference to the squad. That goes with the "can't be bothered with football " attitude from our owner.
We signed Heffernan after we’d spent a full season in League One.
I’m sure DS’ pay off would equate to 6 figures. Which is far more important than spending that money on a transfer fee.
-
I seem to remember the last time we were in this division that a six figure fee was paid for Paul Heffernan, terrible, we can't spend money on transfer fees = we are not going to get anybody who will make a significant difference to the squad. That goes with the "can't be bothered with football " attitude from our owner.
wrong. We were in league 1. Last time we were in this division, we signed Marquis for free, and he scored a lot more goals than Heffernan.
-
Whoever is manager, coach, head of football operations, chief executive, chairman it largely doesn’t matter if we are making such amateur hour appalling recruitment decisions. Please sign some decent players. We can’t have another season of total failure on every single level.
-
Whoever is manager, coach, head of football operations, chief executive, chairman it largely doesn’t matter if we are making such amateur hour appalling recruitment decisions. Please sign some decent players. We can’t have another season of total failure on every single level.
Yes we need some seriously good recruitment this summer but the big concern for me is this Head Coach.
Is he capable of getting them tho play football that is both enjoyable to watch and consistently winning football.
One thing DS did say this week when referring to the funds that TB is going to make available is “we have identified that we need more physicality in the team”. Hallelujah to that at least.
-
Marquis never cost any money, I'd take prime Marquis
-
Whiteman (when we 1st signed him) cost very little money. I'd take Whiteman
-
I still believe we have the nucleus of a decent squad.
We just need probably 4 players with physical attributes in key positions. The 2 most glaring ones are centre midfield and up front.
The fact is DS has got the current squad underperforming big time.
We have seen glimpses of what they are capable of.
No one is going to tell me that an experienced manager would not have got far more from this current squad.
We have some very decent players but yes we have some missing ingredients that could turn us a top 3 team. That’s obvious.
My worry is this Coach is not the answer whoever we sign.
If he is staying then I seriously hope he proves me very wrong.
My prediction is we will be looking for a new manager come late October.
The sensible thing is to do it now.
If we lose or even fail to win any of the last 5 games how does that make keeping DS’s in this job credible?
-
I am not the boards biggest fan by far having ran the club so poorly. However the cash injection statement from Bramall it was very obvious it would be to increase the wage bill not spend 200k on a transfer fee.
-
I still believe we have the nucleus of a decent squad.
We just need probably 4 players with physical attributes in key positions. The 2 most glaring ones are centre midfield and up front.
The fact is DS has got the current squad underperforming big time.
We have seen glimpses of what they are capable of.
No one is going to tell me that an experienced manager would not have got far more from this current squad.
We have some very decent players but yes we have some missing ingredients that could turn us a top 3 team. That’s obvious.
My worry is this Coach is not the answer whoever we sign.
If he is staying then I seriously hope he proves me very wrong.
My prediction is we will be looking for a new manager come late October.
The sensible thing is to do it now.
If we lose or even fail to win any of the last 5 games how does that make keeping DS’s in this job credible?
I've said previously you should be all over James Norwood this summer Campsall .
His one year deal with ourselves ends on June 30th and should we go up I can't see another deal getting offered .
I wouldn't mind giving him another 12 month deal should we remain in league one but possibly Norwood may seek a longer deal elsewhere which is where Rovers could nip in .
I like Norwood he's done a tremendous job this season but I reckon my club will try and sign Max Watters permanently in the summer who is as you know is a younger player with potential to improve and a saleable asset should he develop further .
Norwood would be a tremendous asset for Rovers in my opinion , vastly experienced , round the block striker who'd be a real leader up top , he still gets his fair share of goals too .
-
I seem to remember the last time we were in this division that a six figure fee was paid for Paul Heffernan, terrible, we can't spend money on transfer fees = we are not going to get anybody who will make a significant difference to the squad. That goes with the "can't be bothered with football " attitude from our owner.
That’s just nonsense though isn’t it
Wellens, Gareth roberts, Marquis, oster, Rob jones, Blair, May, Joe wright, friend, paynter, brown, cotterill, Rowe, Anderson, butler, sadlier,
All signed on free’s
I don’t understand why people think players who have let their contract run down can’t be good players
-
The obsession with fees is crazy.
This is not the 1980’s or 1990’s. It’s all about Wages in the modern era The players have all the power now not the clubs.
Barmby Rover by the way Heffernan came to us when we had just been promoted to League 1 in the summer of 2004
-
I still believe we have the nucleus of a decent squad.
We just need probably 4 players with physical attributes in key positions. The 2 most glaring ones are centre midfield and up front.
The fact is DS has got the current squad underperforming big time.
We have seen glimpses of what they are capable of.
No one is going to tell me that an experienced manager would not have got far more from this current squad.
We have some very decent players but yes we have some missing ingredients that could turn us a top 3 team. That’s obvious.
My worry is this Coach is not the answer whoever we sign.
If he is staying then I seriously hope he proves me very wrong.
My prediction is we will be looking for a new manager come late October.
The sensible thing is to do it now.
If we lose or even fail to win any of the last 5 games how does that make keeping DS’s in this job credible?
I've said previously you should be all over James Norwood this summer Campsall .
His one year deal with ourselves ends on June 30th and should we go up I can't see another deal getting offered .
I wouldn't mind giving him another 12 month deal should we remain in league one but possibly Norwood may seek a longer deal elsewhere which is where Rovers could nip in .
I like Norwood he's done a tremendous job this season but I reckon my club will try and sign Max Watters permanently in the summer who is as you know is a younger player with potential to improve and a saleable asset should he develop further .
Norwood would be a tremendous asset for Rovers in my opinion , vastly experienced , round the block striker who'd be a real leader up top , he still gets his fair share of goals too .
No good telling me. Tell Copps and Schofield. Agree 100% would be just what we need right now.
-
We signed Paul Heffernan in the summer of 2005, at the end of our first season back in League One.
His first season with us was 2005/2006 in League One. 26 league appearances, 7 league goals.
-
So this budget injection was all smoke and mirrors as we thought…
Think about it The Board say there will be a significant cash injection, that'll have the agents sniffing about like flies round Shite and other clubs trying to overprice.
So then the HoF comes out and says that its not rocket science to work it out ;) ;)
-
We signed Paul Heffernan in the summer of 2005, at the end of our first season back in League One.
His first season with us was 2005/2006 in League One. 26 league appearances, 7 league goals.
Fantastic cup record that season, 6 in 7 FA & League Cup games.
-
Tyke:
Norwood would be a tremendous asset for Rovers in my opinion , vastly experienced , round the block striker who'd be a real leader up top , he still gets his fair share of goals too .
Scored today already.
-
Piergianni, Sweeney, Clarke and Roberts for Stevenage tonight all signed as free agents in the summer. All look making our lot look like boys and all were well within Rovers’ wage budget.
We need to get real in the summer. The penny must be dropping for Copps and Schofield watching this.
-
Piergianni, Sweeney, Clarke and Roberts for Stevenage tonight all signed as free agents in the summer. All look making our lot look like boys and all were well within Rovers’ wage budget.
We need to get real in the summer. The penny must be dropping for Copps and Schofield watching this.
Our big issue is we consider ourselves to be above players like the ones you've mentioned.
When in league 4 you need to have players who can function in league 4, they had a side full tonight we had one, massive difference.
What we are attempting to do does not work at this level unless you have players with exceptional technique to override the size, strength and determination deficit we have every game.
-
Yes we do.
Schofield has recognised that we need more physicality and will likely get that in.
But if you add that to the currently contracted players, they still will not be able to deliver the style that he is asking for to promotion standard.
That’s because players who are technically and physically excellent are going to be very very hard to come by. But players like Steve Evans signed are not. Even top quality loanees like Ben Nelson have struggled in this division.
We are trying run before we can walk, and the club is like someone who needs a double hip and knee replacement.
Yes people point towards Leyton Orient’s style but Wellens has kept it simple there. 4-3-3 and a strong defence and midfield. Players who understand what they are being asked to do. If you slotted Luke Molyneux in to their attack I’m sure he’d be good enough. How many times was the man on the ball asking for options last night?
We have only played well against Carlisle and Grimsby. If we approach players from fellow league 2 clubs, I doubt they are going to be very impressed unless the manager is changed. We have turned in to a laughing stock.
But if the manager is someone with promotions on their CV, that will attract players. New players want to feel like they can buy in to something.
Rumour is that Schofield is in contract talks with 2 players he has identified. The club knows it’s budget and will be able to move early. If it isn’t this morning that he goes then thats that, they have left it too late. We will just have to see who they recruit and hope that whoever likely comes in in October has enough suitable players are their disposal for a cohesive team and playing style.
Maybe the managerial merry-go-round will present a suitable manager in October, maybe not. That is another risk from leaving it too long. Grant McCann / Darrell Clarke / David Artell are available now.
-
I seem to remember the last time we were in this division that a six figure fee was paid for Paul Heffernan, terrible, we can't spend money on transfer fees = we are not going to get anybody who will make a significant difference to the squad. That goes with the "can't be bothered with football " attitude from our owner.
That’s just nonsense though isn’t it
Wellens, Gareth roberts, Marquis, oster, Rob jones, Blair, May, Joe wright, friend, paynter, brown, cotterill, Rowe, Anderson, butler, sadlier,
All signed on free’s
I don’t understand why people think players who have let their contract run down can’t be good players
However is limiting your pool of players you can get to add to the squad the best option? If there's a player with the perfect profile for us but he's contracted at another club, do we have to go for one further down the list instead just because they're free?
-
I seem to remember the last time we were in this division that a six figure fee was paid for Paul Heffernan, terrible, we can't spend money on transfer fees = we are not going to get anybody who will make a significant difference to the squad. That goes with the "can't be bothered with football " attitude from our owner.
That’s just nonsense though isn’t it
Wellens, Gareth roberts, Marquis, oster, Rob jones, Blair, May, Joe wright, friend, paynter, brown, cotterill, Rowe, Anderson, butler, sadlier,
All signed on free’s
I don’t understand why people think players who have let their contract run down can’t be good players
However is limiting your pool of players you can get to add to the squad the best option? If there's a player with the perfect profile for us but he's contracted at another club, do we have to go for one further down the list instead just because they're free?
I’d very much doubt it, I assume they can use the money available however they wish.
Obviously throwing money to another club though wouldn't be the best option
-
Who buys players in the modern day? Barely anybody.
Stockport with Kyle Knoyle
Us with Ben Whiteman, James Coppinger, Michael Mcindoe, Gregg Blundell, Richie Wellens, Brian Stock, Paul Heffernan, James Hayter, Jimmy O Connor, Billy Sharp to name but a few
-
Forget about everything you listed after Knoyle, think of football pre and post Covid no body in the lower league buys players unless they are trying to buy promotion.
The Rovers players you listed were years ago
-
Who buys players in the modern day? Barely anybody.
Stockport with Kyle Knoyle
Us with Ben Whiteman, James Coppinger, Michael Mcindoe, Gregg Blundell, Richie Wellens, Brian Stock, Paul Heffernan, James Hayter, Jimmy O Connor, Billy Sharp to name but a few
Wellens came on a free,
-
Yes we do.
Schofield has recognised that we need more physicality and will likely get that in.
But if you add that to the currently contracted players, they still will not be able to deliver the style that he is asking for to promotion standard.
That’s because players who are technically and physically excellent are going to be very very hard to come by. But players like Steve Evans signed are not. Even top quality loanees like Ben Nelson have struggled in this division.
We are trying run before we can walk, and the club is like someone who needs a double hip and knee replacement.
Yes people point towards Leyton Orient’s style but Wellens has kept it simple there. 4-3-3 and a strong defence and midfield. Players who understand what they are being asked to do. If you slotted Luke Molyneux in to their attack I’m sure he’d be good enough. How many times was the man on the ball asking for options last night?
We have only played well against Carlisle and Grimsby. If we approach players from fellow league 2 clubs, I doubt they are going to be very impressed unless the manager is changed. We have turned in to a laughing stock.
But if the manager is someone with promotions on their CV, that will attract players. New players want to feel like they can buy in to something.
Rumour is that Schofield is in contract talks with 2 players he has identified. The club knows it’s budget and will be able to move early. If it isn’t this morning that he goes then thats that, they have left it too late. We will just have to see who they recruit and hope that whoever likely comes in in October has enough suitable players are their disposal for a cohesive team and playing style.
Maybe the managerial merry-go-round will present a suitable manager in October, maybe not. That is another risk from leaving it too long. Grant McCann / Darrell Clarke / David Artell are available now.
Has it taken 30 games for Schofield to recognise that we need more physicality in the team, really?
And why hasn’t someone with the vast football knowledge explained that to him, someone like Copps for example.
-
Yes we do.
Schofield has recognised that we need more physicality and will likely get that in.
But if you add that to the currently contracted players, they still will not be able to deliver the style that he is asking for to promotion standard.
That’s because players who are technically and physically excellent are going to be very very hard to come by. But players like Steve Evans signed are not. Even top quality loanees like Ben Nelson have struggled in this division.
We are trying run before we can walk, and the club is like someone who needs a double hip and knee replacement.
Yes people point towards Leyton Orient’s style but Wellens has kept it simple there. 4-3-3 and a strong defence and midfield. Players who understand what they are being asked to do. If you slotted Luke Molyneux in to their attack I’m sure he’d be good enough. How many times was the man on the ball asking for options last night?
We have only played well against Carlisle and Grimsby. If we approach players from fellow league 2 clubs, I doubt they are going to be very impressed unless the manager is changed. We have turned in to a laughing stock.
But if the manager is someone with promotions on their CV, that will attract players. New players want to feel like they can buy in to something.
Rumour is that Schofield is in contract talks with 2 players he has identified. The club knows it’s budget and will be able to move early. If it isn’t this morning that he goes then thats that, they have left it too late. We will just have to see who they recruit and hope that whoever likely comes in in October has enough suitable players are their disposal for a cohesive team and playing style.
Maybe the managerial merry-go-round will present a suitable manager in October, maybe not. That is another risk from leaving it too long. Grant McCann / Darrell Clarke / David Artell are available now.
Has it taken 30 games for Schofield to recognise that we need more physicality in the team, really?
And why hasn’t someone with the vast football knowledge explained that to him, someone like Copps for example.
As much as I loathe evans. He does have an eye for a player. The lad Piergianni I’ve seen play many times in a Boston shirt. He is a proper up and at em player in the ilk of Rob Jones. Many times I’ve seen him play with a bandage wrapped around his head just getting on with the job at hand. A real no nonsense player. Just the sort you need in lge two to win those aerial battles at the back. He can score goals too.
-
In reply to you NR.
We have no natural leader in the team.
Anderson, Rowe and now Close all had a turn at being captain but I don’t see any real leadership out there.
Now if Rob Jones was in this team Schofield would not have got much of a word in at half time at Stevenage.
Corporal Jones would have sorted it out.
We would not be playing without heart, passion and belief if Jones was on that field.
Massive priority this summer is 2 serious leaders needed for this squad.
Personalities that are not scared to tell DS what’s what.
Jones would not have stood for this rubbish from Schofield.
He would have come out after each game spoke to the media and told it as it was. Not acceptable. None of this waffle we get from DS.
-
Yes we do.
Schofield has recognised that we need more physicality and will likely get that in.
But if you add that to the currently contracted players, they still will not be able to deliver the style that he is asking for to promotion standard.
That’s because players who are technically and physically excellent are going to be very very hard to come by. But players like Steve Evans signed are not. Even top quality loanees like Ben Nelson have struggled in this division.
We are trying run before we can walk, and the club is like someone who needs a double hip and knee replacement.
Yes people point towards Leyton Orient’s style but Wellens has kept it simple there. 4-3-3 and a strong defence and midfield. Players who understand what they are being asked to do. If you slotted Luke Molyneux in to their attack I’m sure he’d be good enough. How many times was the man on the ball asking for options last night?
We have only played well against Carlisle and Grimsby. If we approach players from fellow league 2 clubs, I doubt they are going to be very impressed unless the manager is changed. We have turned in to a laughing stock.
But if the manager is someone with promotions on their CV, that will attract players. New players want to feel like they can buy in to something.
Rumour is that Schofield is in contract talks with 2 players he has identified. The club knows it’s budget and will be able to move early. If it isn’t this morning that he goes then thats that, they have left it too late. We will just have to see who they recruit and hope that whoever likely comes in in October has enough suitable players are their disposal for a cohesive team and playing style.
Maybe the managerial merry-go-round will present a suitable manager in October, maybe not. That is another risk from leaving it too long. Grant McCann / Darrell Clarke / David Artell are available now.
Has it taken 30 games for Schofield to recognise that we need more physicality in the team, really?
And why hasn’t someone with the vast football knowledge explained that to him, someone like Copps for example.
As much as I loathe evans. He does have an eye for a player. The lad Piergianni I’ve seen play many times in a Boston shirt. He is a proper up and at em player in the ilk of Rob Jones. Many times I’ve seen him play with a bandage wrapped around his head just getting on with the job at hand. A real no nonsense player. Just the sort you need in lge two to win those aerial battles at the back. He can score goals too.
Meanwhile at DRFC…
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=287540.msg1226538#msg1226538
-
Yes we do.
Schofield has recognised that we need more physicality and will likely get that in.
But if you add that to the currently contracted players, they still will not be able to deliver the style that he is asking for to promotion standard.
That’s because players who are technically and physically excellent are going to be very very hard to come by. But players like Steve Evans signed are not. Even top quality loanees like Ben Nelson have struggled in this division.
We are trying run before we can walk, and the club is like someone who needs a double hip and knee replacement.
Yes people point towards Leyton Orient’s style but Wellens has kept it simple there. 4-3-3 and a strong defence and midfield. Players who understand what they are being asked to do. If you slotted Luke Molyneux in to their attack I’m sure he’d be good enough. How many times was the man on the ball asking for options last night?
We have only played well against Carlisle and Grimsby. If we approach players from fellow league 2 clubs, I doubt they are going to be very impressed unless the manager is changed. We have turned in to a laughing stock.
But if the manager is someone with promotions on their CV, that will attract players. New players want to feel like they can buy in to something.
Rumour is that Schofield is in contract talks with 2 players he has identified. The club knows it’s budget and will be able to move early. If it isn’t this morning that he goes then thats that, they have left it too late. We will just have to see who they recruit and hope that whoever likely comes in in October has enough suitable players are their disposal for a cohesive team and playing style.
Maybe the managerial merry-go-round will present a suitable manager in October, maybe not. That is another risk from leaving it too long. Grant McCann / Darrell Clarke / David Artell are available now.
Has it taken 30 games for Schofield to recognise that we need more physicality in the team, really?
And why hasn’t someone with the vast football knowledge explained that to him, someone like Copps for example.
He was apparently watching games before he was appointed. Our one physical player was released to go to Bradford where has been one of their top players
-
I don’t know what hull have planned for him, but if it’s a striker we are after look no further than Billy Chadwick. He’s been on loan at Boston United. And has become a bit of a Billy Sharp esque figure there.
He would be a real steal if we could get him imo.
-
You’ve mentioned him before NR but Josh Umerah from Hartlepool has the technical and physical attributes to play as a lone striker or in a 2 IMO.
Pulled off that lovely assist against us in the home game.
Out of contract in June and they’re off down.
-
Who buys players in the modern day? Barely anybody.
Stockport with Kyle Knoyle
Us with Ben Whiteman, James Coppinger, Michael Mcindoe, Gregg Blundell, Richie Wellens, Brian Stock, Paul Heffernan, James Hayter, Jimmy O Connor, Billy Sharp to name but a few
Modern day. Gregg blundell was 20 years ago.
The list of good frees is far far greater, you've even named on there.
-
Think recently we paid cash for Fejiri, also I think Reo and Long? Might be wrong.
-
Who buys players in the modern day? Barely anybody.
Stockport with Kyle Knoyle
Us with Ben Whiteman, James Coppinger, Michael Mcindoe, Gregg Blundell, Richie Wellens, Brian Stock, Paul Heffernan, James Hayter, Jimmy O Connor, Billy Sharp to name but a few
Modern day. Gregg blundell was 20 years ago.
The list of good frees is far far greater, you've even named on there.
That wasn't me disregarding free transfers - merely justifying the ones we have paid for previously (Wellens excepted)
If I got my bearings on fee paid signings since 2019-20, then there is Kyle Hurst, Adam Long, Cam John, Omar Bogle, Reece James, Devante Cole, & Fejiri Okanbirhie which fall in a very different class to the previous batch of signings mentioned before.
In terms of free signings I do agree that there are potential stars in there but 1) you are facing a far crowded pool for them, 2) we are notoriously strict with agent fees which will drop that number down further, 3) and after this season we'll find it far harder to persuade anyone to join our 'project' (it's not like we have a clear positive trajectory for example). My argument is merely we shouldn't disregard these signings when if a Ben Whiteman-esque opportunity to pay little and sell big opportunity appears.
-
You’ve mentioned him before NR but Josh Umerah from Hartlepool has the technical and physical attributes to play as a lone striker or in a 2 IMO.
Pulled off that lovely assist against us in the home game.
Out of contract in June and they’re off down.
Just been released by Hartlepool United.
-
DonnyJim must be the happiest man alive!
-
Rovers don’t need to buy players if they keep landing on gems like Adelakun. Just need to pay his wages.
-
Try before you buy must be the best approach for Rovers regarding potential transfers.
-
I wonder just how far our real fans would want the club to go.I don’t have any Sheff U mates but do have ex colleagues fans of Ipswich the other Brentford .It is very hard to get to watch Brentford these days says my colleague who has supported them for ocver 40 years from Overseas .The Ipswich guy on the verge of Premiership lives in Quebec but feels he has to buy a season ticket to have any chance of seeimg them next season .
Most Premiership clubs are so far removed from their local communities thst they become remote .I wouldn’t ever want to lose Rovers community , family atmosphere .
-
DonnyJim must be the happiest man alive!
He is sulking somewhere because Rovers are winning football matches again.
-
I wonder just how far our real fans would want the club to go.I don’t have any Sheff U mates but do have ex colleagues fans of Ipswich the other Brentford .It is very hard to get to watch Brentford these days says my colleague who has supported them for ocver 40 years from Overseas .The Ipswich guy on the verge of Premiership lives in Quebec but feels he has to buy a season ticket to have any chance of seeimg them next season .
Most Premiership clubs are so far removed from their local communities thst they become remote .I wouldn’t ever want to lose Rovers community , family atmosphere .
This is spot on. I’ve mates who support Spurs, West Ham and Arsenal and without exception, their attachment to their clubs is based on history as opposed to any connection that they have now and only really go out of habit. Another old pal of mine who follows Norwich says that, once the novelty wore off, being in the Premier league was dull. You’re going to games fully expected to lose and the stadium is full of premier league fans rather than Norwich City fans, so it’s very much sanitised.