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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on October 15, 2017, 10:20:05 am
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It looks as if this game has taken on even more importance with the striker injuries ,and the real prospect of falling into the relegation positions.
Can we at last put two wins together in home matches?where if we are to improve we have to take more points per game than we have up to press this season.
All the injuries sustained at Charlton, if they cannot play in the next few games, are to players who have been first choices on the team sheet,added to which I was Told that Marquis faces a ban for having being booked five times,although I dont know if this is fact.
This could seriously weaken us at an important time for the club this season .Baudry may or may not be a chink of light,and could allow us to change our defensive formation to three at the back and give us a more balanced look to the team,but if Marquis is out with Williams and Alfie unfit we are seriously short up front.
What are your thoughts?
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3 more players out . Not depth in squad . Not enough clean sheets . Opposition looking for 3 wins in a row . Have missed anything .
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The letter"I"?
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Won’t Wilo be fit for Tuesday?
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Williams may be fit, Mandeville will get his chance and possibly Tommy Rowe could be pushed forward.
It's not ideal but it's not the end of the world either.
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Mandeville and Beestin up front and Lewis Scattergood on the bench to score against Portsmouth? Another loss on the way.
Copps is also out.
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I love your enthusiasm, Baz, but "It's not ideal but it's not the end of the world either." doesn't really help us escape the constant struggle to avoid the drop zone. If we are in the same position at Christmas some significant changes are needed. Hopefully some significant new signings if we have to keep Ferguson in charge. This team really can't hack it in this division and that's just a fact with 13 games gone.
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I would have thought Whiteman could play up front. Beestin and Mandeville would be a rather lightweight pairing.
Scattergood is injured by the way. However I predict James Morris will be on the bench. He did well in the reserves last week.
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Or we could just use an actual striker and give James Morris a spot on the bench.
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With our main strike force out I would say we have very limited options. Moving midfielders forwards would wreck the balance of the team. The Beestin and Mandeville pairing would be weak but they are the only forwards we have left. James Morris is a very young lad and between them all they are hardly a match for Pompey currently sat in 8th position. Marquis, May and Copps would have had a hard time against Pompey. A loss could easily see us in the bottom four. No pressure.
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We have to get tommy Rowe playing further forward. Yesterday Whitman played in the number 10 role but he offers little in terms of creativity. With copps out for a while Rowe has to play their on my opinion. Could be a chance for ben kemis to show his worth in the coming weeks.
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With three players out and Williams may still not be available then we have use the 11 squad players we have. We could add to them Baudry and Beestin if both are fit enough.
We could play 3 4 3 or 3 5 2 or 4 4 2 or my preference with the players we have which is 4. 2. 3. 1
Lawlor
Blair. Wright. Butler. Toffolo
Houghton Mason
Kongolo. Whiteman. Rowe
Mandeville
Marosi
Alcock
Garrett
Baudry
Fletcher
Beestin
Ben Khemis
The system means that Mason and Houghton can protect the back four. It will allow Blair and Toffolo to break down their wings if required. The reason for Rowe left of the three he is the only left footed player.
The three in front will have to break a gut to get forward and help Mandeville who is not a hold up centre forward but may be able to use his football ability to link up with the breaking midfield players or even full backs.
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That's not a bad line up.
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Also impressed
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I think that Baudry will start on Tuesday,I will be very surprised if he does not, if fit of course.
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I think that Baudry will start on Tuesday,I will be very surprised if he does not, if fit of course.
Do you want DF to drop one of the centre halves or play three at the back?
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I think he will go for three at the back if he does play,to drop one of the centre halves would be dropping one of the two outstanding defenders we have this season.
If he has the players available I think it is Fergies preferred line up anyway.
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I will throw one in from off the field,an old trick that was used much more in the dim past when I was a lad.
Bring Baudry into the back four disrupting it as little as possible,and move Butler up front with Mandeville as the target player in place of Marquise for one game.
Marshall at is a name that I remember being one player who made quite an impression after converting from defence,and we have at times shoved Butler forward when chasing a game.
Just something to discuss, because I remember them having a big lump with a pony tail who may be a bit daunting for a young lad. Or even push Blair up front,he has the speed and stature and I think he may have played up front for York, I hope Williams is fit thuogh.
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Definitely not for me, there's a difference when you're chasing a game with 5 minutes left and shoving a big centre half up front, and starting someone with no experience of playing there for the full 90 minutes.
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With three players out and Williams may still not be available then we have use the 11 squad players we have. We could add to them Baudry and Beestin if both are fit enough.
We could play 3 4 3 or 3 5 2 or 4 4 2 or my preference with the players we have which is 4. 2. 3. 1
Lawlor
Blair. Wright. Butler. Toffolo
Houghton Mason
Kongolo. Whiteman. Rowe
Mandeville
Marosi
Alcock
Garrett
Baudry
Fletcher
Beestin
Ben Khemis
The system means that Mason and Houghton can protect the back four. It will allow Blair and Toffolo to break down their wings if required. The reason for Rowe left of the three he is the only left footed player.
The three in front will have to break a gut to get forward and help Mandeville who is not a hold up centre forward but may be able to use his football ability to link up with the breaking midfield players or even full backs.
Very unlikely to play 4231, DF sticks to what he likes. I think he may play three centre halves and Ben Khemis off Mandy in a free role.
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Kongolo could be very good just behind Mandeville,they would be a very technical and clever pairing with both having the ability to turn defenders and go past them.
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Adversity often brings opportunities.
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The worst kind of home game when it comes to crowd appeal.An away game in mid week, where the away fans face one of their longest journeys,an home crowd who, although seeing a good win the last home game their team is not in great form,and the team is suffering with injuries and suspensions.
Makes it interesting to see just how our crowd will hold up when the big European games on T.V. and the windy weather are added into the mix.
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It's a game where to get anything we need a team with 100% commitment and work rate. Probably a slice of luck as well. These are the times that sort the men out from the boys.
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Dint the great spain team of a few years ago play with no forwards?
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Dint the great spain team of a few years ago play with no forwards?
Yes, but the midfield was exeptional
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I think Khemis will play with Mandy. The two of them were very good in the Development game and the LDV cup.
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who would you rather have up front:
Mandeville OR Curtis Main
:laugh: :scarf:
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Neither!
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I love your enthusiasm, Baz, but "It's not ideal but it's not the end of the world either." doesn't really help us escape the constant struggle to avoid the drop zone. If we are in the same position at Christmas some significant changes are needed. Hopefully some significant new signings if we have to keep Ferguson in charge. This team really can't hack it in this division and that's just a fact with 13 games gone.
Can't hack it??
How many times have we been played off the park, or hammered by 3 or 4??
We have been competitive in most games, haven't we? we need to sharpen up in defence and in the final third, that's for sure, and get some more decent results, but the margins are small at the moment..
"Can't hack it" would imply we cannot compete, but we do.
However, we can all see we need more results to go our way.
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who would you rather have up front:
Mandeville OR Curtis Main
:laugh: :scarf:
We’ve got Mandeville and a midfield player if he plays two. We can’t do anything about that. Two strikers injured, one suspended and one long term rehabilitation.
Tonight’s game would have been hard with two strikers because we are not taking enough chances and letting in the odd goal.
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Time for the midfield to show its attacking abilities. Rowe, Kongolo, Whiteman should all be a goal threat.
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Pompey fan here, remember posting during the same fixture last year where you beat us on telly.
Like yourselves, we've had a tough start to life in League 1, it's been way more of a step up than expected. Every team we've played, even the strugglers, have been better than any team in League 2 last year. We've recently started to gel, with a number of new signings getting used to the way the manager plays. Hardly any familiar faces from last year, only the centre backs and Kyle Bennet likely to start this evening. Curtis Main is injured, after making his first start of the season.
Overall, we've got a good balance. A tall striker, pace and tricks down the wings, and a solid, of not spectacular, defence. Matty Kennedy, on loan at Plymouth at the end of last year, is our danger player at the moment, with top scorer and Brett Pitman out injured. Our biggest weaknesses are Ben Close in midfield, who's struggled to make the step up, overplaying in defence and no backup in defence. If we get any injuries to our centre backs, expect to see our centre forward filling in.
Looking forward to tonight, should be a good game!
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Curtis Main is injured
No surprise there then
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Your fans were a credit to the club as they usually are. We’re you there?
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Curtis Main is injured
No surprise there then
he just didn't fancy the stick he was liable to get
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Your fans were a credit to the club as they usually are. We’re you there?
I didn't go, have work tomorrow. All things considered, probably best for my health that I didn't!
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That was a good win last night,Portsmouth looked a decent well drilled side,and I am not surprised where they are in the league.
They looked strong down the middle at the back and the wide players looked useful.Bennet played exactly how he did for us,always looking as if there is a good player in there but never achieving anything,the substitute looked far more dangerous.
Our back three played very well,and kept the service and the chances to a minimum for the big centre forward.
We did miss the hold up play and threat that Marquise gives us up front,but the work ethic of the whole team pulled us through,and this game proved to me that Tommy Rowe is wasted out wide.
The little cameo from Beestin near the end showed a lot of promise,and the game should have gone a long way to prove that our squad is not quite as thread bare as some on here would have us believe.
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Beestin played with a lot of heart and plenty of desire, which you would expect of a young lad in his first game this season. I wish he could transfer a bit of that enthusiasm to Mande, who, for me, still looks a little short in both stamina and determination. His second touch was usually a slide tackle last night and thankfully for the goal he only needed one touch, such was the quality of Rodney's cross. Still, he has time on his hands, and there's plenty to work on.
Talking of crossing, we noticeably changed our style in the early part of the game, where we were getting crosses in early and causing problems. However, after the 2nd goal went in, we seemed to go back to the painfully slow build up and mistakes started to creep in. We have to get out of this nasty habit of seemingly going for safety. Keep the tempo up and we will pick up a few more much-needed wins.
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The crowd was good for a midweek game aided by a great turn out from Pompey,and they created quite a bit of noise throughout the match.
At a preseason supporters meeting it was said that an average of about 7200 would be break even level and we may not be far off that up to press.
A decent cup run would be welcome this season or am I asking for the impossible.
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Pompey have appealed Donohue's red card, strange decision imo as he definitely kicked out and was seen by the fourth official and the TVs cameras.
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/pompey/pompey-appeal-donohue-red-card-1-8205183
COYR
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Pompey have appealed Donohue's red card, strange decision imo as he definitely kicked out and was seen by the fourth official and the TVs cameras.
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/pompey/pompey-appeal-donohue-red-card-1-8205183
COYR
It is hard to imagine how they are thinking here.
Clearly the player kicks at Mason and the fact that he missed is irrelevant.
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Jackett said after the game he had no complaints about the red card so that's a strange U-turn.
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Red card overturned
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Absolutely ridiculous. How on earth could they rescind that?!