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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Bessie Red on May 22, 2023, 07:02:34 pm
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McCanns 1st signing
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This is a weird one. He's better than Mitchell but I'd hoped the bar was higher than that.
Unless Jones is on the way out and he's signed as a number 2.
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Bizarre
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He’s been predominantly substitute keeper in the Scottish championship the last 2 seasons, so no way he can be coming in as number 1 surely
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I hope he's going to provide competition for another new GK with Jones going out on loan.
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This is a weird one. He's better than Mitchell but I'd hoped the bar was higher than that.
Unless Jones is on the way out and he's signed as a number 2.
I’m really hoping this is the case too. Not for me but I’ll trust McCanns decision.
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A truly astounding signing. I genuinely don’t know what to say. Wow.
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Has to be back up surely.
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Has DROS been hacked? Seriously.
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Champagne signings eh? The bank has ben broken. If that is the standard we are going to have.....
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I hope he’s matured and now can take crosses - we nicknamed him Mr Flappy back then.
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Agree with all of the above, bizarre....
I'm one of the few that liked Jonny though...
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A far superior goalkeeper to what we have had last two seasons
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Not inspiring!
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And a warm Donny welcome Ian! Damned before you start, poor lad.
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A truly astounding signing. I genuinely don’t know what to say. Wow.
He can’t be on big wages …Is this an indication how the budget is to be spread out?
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That’s the spirit ..get behind the lads as Grant. What an amazing forum this has become !
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And a warm Donny welcome Ian! Damned before you start, poor lad.
To be fair, we’ve seen a lot of him already.
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That’s the spirit ..get behind the lads as Grant. What an amazing forum this has become !
Is this the type of signing you expected ?
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Stumped, bizzare...but crazily I was thinking about him the other day in comparison to what we had recently in goal. Levels above Mitchell but levels below Dieng.
It's an improvement on what we have had but not exactly Alex Cairns.
Welcome back Ian!
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Oh dear.
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Better than Mitchell so a good start.
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Shocking signing if he’s first choice, given the array of options on the market.
Makes perfect sense if he’s back up.
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I remember him being alright. Not amazing but alright. That's got to be a step forwards right?
I wouldn't at all describe it as a bad signing he never did much wrong did he? Have a look through, a lot at the time thought it was harsh Dieng replaced him and how good was he?
We never really replaced him properly.
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I remember him being alright. Not amazing but alright. That's got to be a step forwards right?
I wouldn't at all describe it as a bad signing he never did much wrong did he? Have a look through, a lot at the time thought it was harsh Dieng replaced him and how good was he?
We never really replaced him properly.
If the club announced the signing of any other Scottish Championship reserve GK how would you feel?
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Can’t deny I’m surprised too. I can only think this means Jones is on the way out. If that proves to be the case, and Lawlor is here to compete with a new number one, then it does make some sense. The positive here is that he is better than we’ve had in the last two seasons so that’s an improvement. The other side of the coin is that it still very much feels like we still need a new number one. But I was always in the camp that said we needed two new keepers anyway. Have some faith that another is still on the way.
Look at the press release. We’re hardly going announce him as a number two are we, but unless I’ve missed something nor does it say he’s our new number one.
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He is far better than Mitchell so it's a strep forward for me, people seem to forget we are a league 2 club (& a shit one at that) & the likes of Dieng & Johnstone aren't coming back anytime soon, forward steps are what is required & this is one
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I’m happy enough with this, 1st or 2nd choice, he’s a good keeper and with a good back 4 in front of him, no reason why he can’t do well
Welcome back Ian
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I mean, wow. This must rank alongside the 2.5 year contract for Tom and the 3 year deal for Taylor as the most baffling decision of recent years.
Whether first, second or third choice, we’ve needed a decent keeper we actually own, for years now. We’re still waiting.
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He is 28 now and hopefully improved, we have had many players over the years that have not been any good they go somewhere else and do well
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I remember him being alright. Not amazing but alright. That's got to be a step forwards right?
I wouldn't at all describe it as a bad signing he never did much wrong did he? Have a look through, a lot at the time thought it was harsh Dieng replaced him and how good was he?
We never really replaced him properly.
If the club announced the signing of any other Scottish Championship reserve GK how would you feel?
Given I watch a lot of lower league Scottish football quite happy. There's a good few players up there and some gems to be picked up. Andy Robertson of Liverpool one prime example.
Our own James Maxwell who I rate was at that level also.
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Disgraceful response on here, what were you all expecting? Don't recall him being that bad and a definite improvement on Mitchell.
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3 clean sheets in his 13 league appearances over the last 2 seasons in Scotland.
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Holy crap. I'd rather have kept Mitchell. He epitomises everything that is wrong with basic keeping.
He hardly ever came for crosses. Sometimes gesturing to go for them only to back off. There's nothing worse from a centre half's perspective not knowing whether your keeper is coming or staying put. I really had to question why he bothered wearing cloves. Like a wicket keeper who doesn't catch a ball.
He doesn't command his area but shouts and waves his arms alot. A real panic merchant throwing himself about like a headless chicken.
I really thought we'd seen the back of him.
Not a good start.
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Have to say I’m surprised by the extreme reaction. It’s a surprise signing but I didn’t think he was that bad. He’s from the Andy Warrington school of dealing with crosses like, but thought he was relatively steady otherwise.
Let’s see how things pan out. He might turn out to be back-up.
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He's better than what we had last season, maybe Jones is not signing Lawlor is number 2 and we have a new number 1 coming in.
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I really thought we'd seen the back of him.
Sit the south stand next season you will see the back of him.
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In his interview, GM suggests we'll be going into the season with Lawlor, Jones and Bottomley.
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Can’t deny I’m surprised too. I can only think this means Jones is on the way out. If that proves to be the case, and Lawlor is here to compete with a new number one, then it does make some sense. The positive here is that he is better than we’ve had in the last two seasons so that’s an improvement. The other side of the coin is that it still very much feels like we still need a new number one. But I was always in the camp that said we needed two new keepers anyway. Have some faith that another is still on the way.
Look at the press release. We’re hardly going announce him as a number two are we, but unless I’ve missed something nor does it say he’s our new number one.
What, from the last 8/10 years gives you any sense we're bringing in another keeper for 'competition'? It's a loan or youth as the 2nd.
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We’ve done well finding a worse keeper than Mitchell. Insanely bad signing.
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In his interview, GM suggests we'll be going into the season with Lawlor, Jones and Bottomley.
If that’s the case - and it might not be - it doesn’t sound like we are serious about sorting our colander-like defensive unit of the last three season.
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I Trust the Manager.
He has given a good interview.
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We either trust the manager or we piss and whine about everything he does.
Embarrassing response on here
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Happy here. A solid start - better than we have and that all I want just now
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Objectively - we have signed a player from the Scottish second tier where he was very much warming the bench this season AND we saw a lot of him over his years with us not so long ago. We all saw him play, in front of our eyes. There’s no escaping that!
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Unless Jones is leaving it’s a strange one. Him and Jones would probably be neck and neck for 1st choice if they are both here. Not a statement signing by any stretch.
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Welcome back Ian.
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And a warm Donny welcome Ian! Damned before you start, poor lad.
A step up from Etheridges reception though. He got panned because he gave a crap interview when he signed
Not slagging the Team or his prospects but just came over as a bag of nerves and got hammered
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It was such a relief to get Marosi to no 1 instead of Lawlor.
Surely you must recall, he went to Scunny and promptly had a mare there too.
There must be plenty of old threads about his performances. The only thing I recall him being decent at was kicking. Definitely better with boots than gloves.
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Is Grant starting to get the old band back together?
COYR
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Matty Blair guaranteed next signing.
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Objectively - we have signed a player from the Scottish second tier where he was very much warming the bench this season AND we saw a lot of him over his years with us not so long ago. We all saw him play, in front of our eyes. There’s no escaping that!
I think the Scottish second tier is irrelevant considering he was at the champions in that division. 4 years more experience under his belt and hopefully improved on the weaknesses in his game over that time. Grants worked with him before so he knows what he’s getting both on the pitch and in the dressing room.
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I trust Grant MCCann we will see if he’s No 1 or will bring a loan keeper as No1. Jones and Bottomley can go for me neither are league keepers. We will see.
In latest article Grant says he will compete against Jones and Bottomley for No1 but he has to say that let’s see if they sign.
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We either trust the manager or we piss and whine about everything he does.
Embarrassing response on here
I'm really sorry. I rarely react like this about a player. I've said my piece so we'll just have to see how he performs. I hope he proves me wrong.
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Have you all forgotten that we will have a bigger budget thanks to TB?
If you accept mediocrity you will ultimately become mediocre.
We need to be inspired after the last few years. This isn’t it.
I hope this isn’t a sign of things to come and that the budget is being saved for other areas with some marquee signings.
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Well that’s an interesting one. Don’t see the point in mentioning Sam Johnstone or Mr Dieng who was superb for us. Both are a million miles away from we are at the moment. Like being disappointed we haven’t signed a Jacob Ramsey, reality check! Alex Cairns didn’t dominate his area the other day either, seemed to stick to his line. Anyhow, come on Ian give it yer best shot lad.
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Have you all forgotten that we will have a bigger budget thanks to TB?
If you accept mediocrity you will ultimately become mediocre.
We need to be inspired after the last few years. This isn’t it.
I hope this isn’t a sign of things to come and that the budget is being saved for other areas with some marquee signings.
Not every signing is going to be a marquee signing, if you think that then you need to lower your expectations
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We don’t need a keeper attack attack attack
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Well, the GM love-in didn't last long. One signing and people doubting his judgement already.
Let's just wait a bit.
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Maybe McCann signed him for his distribution qualities. If we're getting the ball out quicker and moving forwards he'll have fewer shots to save!
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Well, the GM love-in didn't last long. One signing and people doubting his judgement already.
Let's just wait a bit.
To be fair he made 6 decent signings out of 13 last time. Not an amazing record.
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F**king pathetic. The reaction to this signing that is. You all really need to give your heads a wobble. Who do you think we are? We’re in league 2. We won league 2 with him here. He’s older, he’s wiser and if he’s good enough for GM then he’s good enough for me.
If this is the start of everyone’s reaction to everything Grant does then we’re doomed for failure. We have to contribute to the positivity.
If everyone on his back from the start then the f**kwits out there will make him a bag of nerves and that suits no one.
He’s a steady stopper for me and if this helps us spend bigger on a proper midfield and attack then so be it.
To the bloke who thought Marosi was better you’ve made yourself look foolish with that alone.
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Holy crap. I'd rather have kept Mitchell. He epitomises everything that is wrong with basic keeping.
He hardly ever came for crosses. Sometimes gesturing to go for them only to back off. There's nothing worse from a centre half's perspective not knowing whether your keeper is coming or staying put. I really had to question why he bothered wearing cloves. Like a wicket keeper who doesn't catch a ball.
He doesn't command his area but shouts and waves his arms alot. A real panic merchant throwing himself about like a headless chicken.
I really thought we'd seen the back of him.
Not a good start.
I hate to have to agree with you DBR.
Unless he has improved since he was last with us then this is indeed a very baffling signing by GM
He was awful on crosses, good shot stopper.
Mitchell up until the last 2 months when his confidence nose dived was far far better on crosses than Lawlor ever was when he was last here.
I hope GM has done his home work on this one if he is to be no 1 keeper.
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F**king pathetic. The reaction to this signing that is. You all really need to give your heads a wobble. Who do you think we are? We’re in league 2. We won league 2 with him here. He’s older, he’s wiser and if he’s good enough for GM then he’s good enough for me.
If this is the start of everyone’s reaction to everything Grant does then we’re doomed for failure. We have to contribute to the positivity.
If everyone on his back from the start then the f**kwits out there will make him a bag of nerves and that suits no one.
He’s a steady stopper for me and if this helps us spend bigger on a proper midfield and attack then so be it.
To the bloke who thought Marosi was better you’ve made yourself look foolish with that alone.
We didn’t win League Two, as the guy who signed him fumbled the title when it was easier to win it in 2016/17.
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In the 19 league appearances he made in the 2016/17 promotion season, he kept 5 clean sheets.
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From what I remember he was a better keeper then than Mitchell now.
And taking his words on face value that he has improved then it might not be the end of the world on reflection.
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Maybe McCann signed him for his distribution qualities. If we're getting the ball out quicker and moving forwards he'll have fewer shots to save!
Another area that Mitchell is statistically better in.
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F**king pathetic. The reaction to this signing that is. You all really need to give your heads a wobble. Who do you think we are? We’re in league 2. We won league 2 with him here. He’s oldF**king pathetic. The reaction to this signing that is. You all really need to give your heads a wobble. Who do you think we are? We’re in league 2. We won league 2 with him here. He’s older, he’s wiser and if he’s good enough for GM then he’s good enough for me.
If this is the start of everyone’s reaction to everything Grant does then we’re doomed for failure. We have to contribute to the positivity.
If everyone on his back from the start then the f**kwits out there will make him a bag of nerves and that suits no one.
He’s a steady stopper for me and if this helps us spend bigger on a proper midfield and attack then so be it.
To the bloke who thought Marosi was better you’ve made yourself look foolish with that alone.
er, he’s wiser and if he’s good enough for GM then he’s good enough for me.
If this is the start of everyone’s reaction to everything Grant does then we’re doomed for failure. We have to contribute to the positivity.
If everyone on his back from the start then the f**kwits out there will make him a bag of nerves and that suits no one.
He’s a steady stopper for me and if this helps us spend bigger on a proper midfield and attack then so be it.
To the bloke who thought Marosi was better you’ve made yourself look foolish with that alone.
Wow, calm down fella.
We've signed a bench warming keeper from the Scottish Championship, we're a bit underwhelmed, that's all.
Nobody's throwing anybody under a bus, not like when we signed Hartlepool's reserve keeper.
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Maybe McCann signed him for his distribution qualities. If we're getting the ball out quicker and moving forwards he'll have fewer shots to save!
Another area that Mitchell is statistically better in.
I remember lawlor having good distribution didn't he? Mitchell's weakness was with the ball at his feet (as well as other mistakes).
This is clearly McCann's number one, if he wasn't sure he wouldn't have signed him this quickly.
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F**king pathetic. The reaction to this signing that is. You all really need to give your heads a wobble. Who do you think we are? We’re in league 2. We won league 2 with him here. He’s older, he’s wiser and if he’s good enough for GM then he’s good enough for me.
If this is the start of everyone’s reaction to everything Grant does then we’re doomed for failure. We have to contribute to the positivity.
If everyone on his back from the start then the f**kwits out there will make him a bag of nerves and that suits no one.
He’s a steady stopper for me and if this helps us spend bigger on a proper midfield and attack then so be it.
To the bloke who thought Marosi was better you’ve made yourself look foolish with that alone.
Cramby.
Yes we have to trust GM I agree. We also need to get behind all the new players. No one should be condemned before they have even kicked a ball or saved a shot as in the case of Ian Lawlor.
But have you forgotten how awful he was on crosses when last at DRFC. For a man of his size and stature he should have dominated his 6 yd box on crosses. He was very hesitant & indecisive to say the least and that is something that gives me considerable concern.
It is obvious judging by many posts on here that I am not the only one who recalls him flapping at crosses on a regular basis.
Now he maybe coming as a no 2 so that makes reasonable sense. If he is going to be 1st choice then we must assume and hope he has improved considerably since he departed us a few years ago.
But I understand everyone’s concern 100% I do.
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F**king pathetic. The reaction to this signing that is. You all really need to give your heads a wobble. Who do you think we are? We’re in league 2. We won league 2 with him here. He’s older, he’s wiser and if he’s good enough for GM then he’s good enough for me.
If this is the start of everyone’s reaction to everything Grant does then we’re doomed for failure. We have to contribute to the positivity.
If everyone on his back from the start then the f**kwits out there will make him a bag of nerves and that suits no one.
He’s a steady stopper for me and if this helps us spend bigger on a proper midfield and attack then so be it.
To the bloke who thought Marosi was better you’ve made yourself look foolish with that alone.
Cramby.
Yes we have to trust GM I agree. We also need to get behind all the new players. No one should be condemned before they have even kicked a ball or saved a shot as in the case of Ian Lawlor.
But have you forgotten how awful he was on crosses when last at DRFC. For a man of his size and stature he should have dominated his 6 yd box on crosses. He was very hesitant & indecisive to say the least and that is something that gives me considerable concern.
It is obvious judging by many posts on here that I am not the only one who recalls him flapping at crosses on a regular basis.
Now he maybe coming as a no 2 so that makes reasonable sense. If he is going to be 1st choice then we must assume and hope he has improved considerably since he departed us a few years ago.
But I understand everyone’s concern 100% I do.
He may say himself he has improved but his career trajectory says otherwise. Happy for him to prove me wrong but we should be over wishful thinking after the last 2.5 years.
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F**king pathetic. The reaction to this signing that is. You all really need to give your heads a wobble. Who do you think we are? We’re in league 2. We won league 2 with him here. He’s older, he’s wiser and if he’s good enough for GM then he’s good enough for me.
If this is the start of everyone’s reaction to everything Grant does then we’re doomed for failure. We have to contribute to the positivity.
If everyone on his back from the start then the f**kwits out there will make him a bag of nerves and that suits no one.
He’s a steady stopper for me and if this helps us spend bigger on a proper midfield and attack then so be it.
To the bloke who thought Marosi was better you’ve made yourself look foolish with that alone.
Marosi was much better and has proved that after he left us.
Lawlor was a big player in the fact we finished 3rd in a 1 horse race in 2017. After he came in a form dipped.
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Well, the GM love-in didn't last long. One signing and people doubting his judgement already.
Let's just wait a bit.
To be fair he made 6 decent signings out of 13 last time. Not an amazing record.
So if you're right, why the love-in from so many people, and why the rocketing of ST sales?
It seems some people are obviously judging him on one signing.
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We either trust the manager or we piss and whine about everything he does.
Embarrassing response on here
It’s a football forum, commenting on football decisions is what it’s designed for!
You can’t think this is a good signing surely?? He was poor in his last spell, horrific at Oldham and didn’t really get a look in in Scotland. We are relying on some miracle improvement here.
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Strange one. A friend of mine who is a Dundee fan, said he was very poor for them. Was he not pretty poor at catching crosses or am I confusing him with someone else?
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Warrington, Ingham, Jones, Turner, Seremet, Blayney, Budtz, Filan, Smith, Sullivan, Woods, Kirkland, Button, Ikeme, Johnstone, Turnbull, Marosi, Steer, Bywater, Neal, Matthews, Stuckmann, Etheridge, Lawlor, Dieng, Lumley, Bursik, Jones, Balcombe, Dahlberg, Mitchell and Moore.
Look at this list of keepers since our return to the FL. Of the permanent keepers there’s only Sulli that hasn’t been called out and slagged off by fans on here or in the stands. And even only a few of the loans, Johnstone Dieng Ikeme Filan, have escaped the fans wrath. We seem to hound every keeper out the joint.
We have to remember where we are. We’re in the lower leagues and here, keepers make mistakes. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t be here. Sadly when a keeper makes a mistake, it invariably leads to a goal. But we have to take the blinkers off and be more understanding. When an outfield player drops a clanger, it’s quickly forgotten as they probably get away with it.
Let’s not hound Ian out before he’s started. Again.
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What are you all expecting? We’re in L2 and he’s 10times better than Mitchel, welcome back
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Comment from my Dundee mate: Bloody hell, and you were buzzing with your new manager too. He was awful for us, couldn’t get a game in the Scots champ
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But from what I recall I’d prefer him to Mitchell
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Would Bradford, MK, Notts, Wrexham, Forest Green, Accrington Stanley, Swindon, Colchester or Gillingham have signed Lawlor?
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We either trust the manager or we piss and whine about everything he does.
Embarrassing response on here
I’ve got to agree with you on this one, tbh it’s a good signing for a mediocre L2 team
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I’d say this is Grant is utilising the budget to get what he can, as cheap as possible, and in this case he knows and trusts him, so a calculated gamble.
He will be looking to spend the greater amounts on key outfield areas.
Protection of the keeper with quality in defence and midfield, as well as the most expensive signings (strikers) should help with any deficiencies in the keeper area. Then we build again next year, hopefully in a league above.
A quality keeper is worth his weight in gold, but when a team is so bereft of quality, it would naturally be the last area you would look at ( in my opinion)
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We either trust the manager or we piss and whine about everything he does.
Embarrassing response on here
It’s a football forum, commenting on football decisions is what it’s designed for!
You can’t think this is a good signing surely?? He was poor in his last spell, horrific at Oldham and didn’t really get a look in in Scotland. We are relying on some miracle improvement here.
Or maybe relying on Jones too?
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Gary Woods was 1st choice in a pretty good team despite been a poor keeper. Hopefully he’s a back up keeper but if he is 1st choice it’s been done before.
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Well, the GM love-in didn't last long. One signing and people doubting his judgement already.
Let's just wait a bit.
To be fair he made 6 decent signings out of 13 last time. Not an amazing record.
So if you're right, why the love-in from so many people, and why the rocketing of ST sales?
It seems some people are obviously judging him on one signing.
He can be a decent manager and play decent football despite having an average record when making signings...
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I’d say this is Grant is utilising the budget to get what he can, as cheap as possible, and in this case he knows and trusts him, so a calculated gamble.
He will be looking to spend the greater amounts on key outfield areas.
Protection of the keeper with quality in defence and midfield, as well as the most expensive signings (strikers) should help with any deficiencies in the keeper area. Then we build again next year, hopefully in a league above.
A quality keeper is worth his weight in gold, but when a team is so bereft of quality, it would naturally be the last area you would look at ( in my opinion)
100% this.
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And a warm Donny welcome Ian! Damned before you start, poor lad.
As I've said many times before "we're doomed I sa we're doomed.
I bet the first thing this lot do when opening the paper is look at the obituaries. Come on the blokes only just taken over give him a chance.
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Well, the GM love-in didn't last long. One signing and people doubting his judgement already.
Let's just wait a bit.
To be fair he made 6 decent signings out of 13 last time. Not an amazing record.
And so it begins….
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Well, the GM love-in didn't last long. One signing and people doubting his judgement already.
Let's just wait a bit.
To be fair he made 6 decent signings out of 13 last time. Not an amazing record.
And so it begins….
What?
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Comment from my Dundee mate: Bloody hell, and you were buzzing with your new manager too. He was awful for us, couldn’t get a game in the Scots champ
He played a total of 13 games, so your mate can judge that he’s awful in them 13 games? I would have to give a player a lot more games before I could consider them to be awful, I remember his 1st game at the keepmoat, he pulled off some amazing saves and won us the match.
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If you were mcCann and you had a pot of money you’d definitely get a keeper in that you know who is cheap, you rate.
Then you have more money available for the players you want that can effect further up the pitch.
If we sign lawlor and end up with 5/6 signings we can’t believe we’ve pulled off rhen it’s money we’ll spent
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Overall I'm happy with this signing. Look forward to seeing him in between the sticks.
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Well, the GM love-in didn't last long. One signing and people doubting his judgement already.
Let's just wait a bit.
To be fair he made 6 decent signings out of 13 last time. Not an amazing record.
And so it begins….
What?
calling out the manager already. Wonder if you’ll be the first one to throw his previous departure back in his face when/if things go awry.
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If you were mcCann and you had a pot of money you’d definitely get a keeper in that you know who is cheap, you rate.
Then you have more money available for the players you want that can effect further up the pitch.
If we sign lawlor and end up with 5/6 signings we can’t believe we’ve pulled off rhen it’s money we’ll spent
I always thought the goalkeepers position was one of if not the most important positions on the field.
A top keeper can give save you over 15 points in a 46 game season.
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Well, the GM love-in didn't last long. One signing and people doubting his judgement already.
Let's just wait a bit.
To be fair he made 6 decent signings out of 13 last time. Not an amazing record.
And so it begins….
What?
calling out the manager already. Wonder if you’ll be the first one to throw his previous departure back in his face when/if things go awry.
The f**k are you on about? I renewed my season ticket because he joined.
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Comment from my Dundee mate: Bloody hell, and you were buzzing with your new manager too. He was awful for us, couldn’t get a game in the Scots champ
He played a total of 13 games, so your mate can judge that he’s awful in them 13 games? I would have to give a player a lot more games before I could consider them to be awful, I remember his 1st game at the keepmoat, he pulled off some amazing saves and won us the match.
It's always amazes me that whenever we sign someone contentious, someone always has a 'mate' from that area who can comment with authority on the ability (or otherwise) of the individual concerned.
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I don’t disagree campsall and I wasn’t suggesting otherwise, my point is mcCann rates lawlor and it’s a cheap signing leaving him with more in the pot to sign players who would be classed as marquee signings
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Comment from my Dundee mate: Bloody hell, and you were buzzing with your new manager too. He was awful for us, couldn’t get a game in the Scots champ
He played a total of 13 games, so your mate can judge that he’s awful in them 13 games? I would have to give a player a lot more games before I could consider them to be awful, I remember his 1st game at the keepmoat, he pulled off some amazing saves and won us the match.
It's always amazes me that whenever we sign someone contentious, someone always has a 'mate' from that area who can comment with authority on the ability (or otherwise) of the individual concerned.
We don't need third-party commentary of him. He only left us in 2021. We had all seen him at our own club, including a season at this very level. We've seen him in action!
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I don’t disagree campsall and I wasn’t suggesting otherwise, my point is mcCann rates lawlor and it’s a cheap signing leaving him with more in the pot to sign players who would be classed as marquee signings
Well hope you’re right.
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Lawlor and Marosi were both competing for the #1 shirt the season we reached the playoffs in the league above.
I personally thought Lawlor marginally to be the better of the two, with neither being particularly convincing, but we still had a decent season.
A surprising signing, but in my opinion, nowhere near as terrible as some are making out.
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I don’t disagree campsall and I wasn’t suggesting otherwise, my point is mcCann rates lawlor and it’s a cheap signing leaving him with more in the pot to sign players who would be classed as marquee signings
Ideally you'd want a keeper who will save you goals over a season, not cost them.
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Comment from my Dundee mate: Bloody hell, and you were buzzing with your new manager too. He was awful for us, couldn’t get a game in the Scots champ
He played a total of 13 games, so your mate can judge that he’s awful in them 13 games? I would have to give a player a lot more games before I could consider them to be awful, I remember his 1st game at the keepmoat, he pulled off some amazing saves and won us the match.
It's always amazes me that whenever we sign someone contentious, someone always has a 'mate' from that area who can comment with authority on the ability (or otherwise) of the individual concerned.
We don't need third-party commentary of him. He only left us in 2021. We had all seen him at our own club, including a season at this very level. We've seen him in action!
But mcCann knows him better than any of us and he’s signed him, he wouldn’t sign someone he’s worked with before if he didn’t think he was good enough. So surely we trust the manager? Surely
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I don’t disagree campsall and I wasn’t suggesting otherwise, my point is mcCann rates lawlor and it’s a cheap signing leaving him with more in the pot to sign players who would be classed as marquee signings
Ideally you'd want a keeper who will save you goals over a season, not cost them.
Mitchell did both
Almost all goalkeepers do both,
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I think GM has got him in as insurance (e.g. if Jones does reject his offer and leaves for his stated ‘more game time’). IF Jones accepts, then we go with what we have, but if Jones leaves, we can always get a half decent loanee later in the summer.
Just a thought!
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This is my abiding memory of him. 1 minute and 5 seconds in.
https://youtu.be/bhPMVVVs-4U
He was not a good goalkeeper.
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This is my abiding memory of him. 1 minute and 5 seconds in.
https://youtu.be/bhPMVVVs-4U
He was not a good goalkeeper.
He looked like he had a great game in this
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In Mcann we trust.
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No matter who McCann signs all we ever hear is moaning from far too many. Go and find another club to moan about!
Lawlor is better than we have had for the last 2 years, so I say welcome Ian.
So who will be the 2nd signing they will all moan about I wonder?
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This is my abiding memory of him. 1 minute and 5 seconds in.
https://youtu.be/bhPMVVVs-4U
He was not a good goalkeeper.
He looked like he had a great game in this
Was just about to say the same, massive gaffe but what a save at the end.
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This is my abiding memory of him. 1 minute and 5 seconds in.
https://youtu.be/bhPMVVVs-4U
He was not a good goalkeeper.
a mega save at the end to save the points..
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Some of the comments on here are unbelievable! Here was me thinking that our fans had the monopoly when it came to delusions of grandeur!!
Right now your a piss poor League 2 side who were shocking for most of last season. The days of you holding your own in the Championship or challenging for the League 1 title are light years away. If you’re a professional footballer, Rovers are not an attractive proposition right now and your manager will have a tough job to convince decent players to come to you. Some of you need to be be more realistic with your expectations regarding signings. Good players will not be sat by their phones desperately waiting for a call from Donny Rovers.
That said, if you can sign players who are better than those who you had last season then you’re heading in the right direction and from some comments on here, that sounds like the case in this instance. Coupled with the fact you’ve got a very good manager on board means you’ve every right to be optimistic for next season, but I think that you need to be more realistic about the players you’re going to attract.
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Comment from my Dundee mate: Bloody hell, and you were buzzing with your new manager too. He was awful for us, couldn’t get a game in the Scots champ
He played a total of 13 games, so your mate can judge that he’s awful in them 13 games? I would have to give a player a lot more games before I could consider them to be awful, I remember his 1st game at the keepmoat, he pulled off some amazing saves and won us the match.
Just replaying what he said. Started okay but got progressively worse and got dropped. Just what he saw from his perspective.
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Some of the comments on here are unbelievable! Here was me thinking that our fans had the monopoly when it came to delusions of grandeur!!
Right now your a piss poor League 2 side who were shocking for most of last season. The days of you holding your own in the Championship or challenging for the League 1 title are light years away. If you’re a professional footballer, Rovers are not an attractive proposition right now and your manager will have a tough job to convince decent players to come to you. Some of you need to be be more realistic with your expectations regarding signings. Good players will not be sat by their phones desperately waiting for a call from Donny Rovers.
That said, if you can sign players who are better than those who you had last season then you’re heading in the right direction and from some comments on here, that sounds like the case in this instance. Coupled with the fact you’ve got a very good manager on board means you’ve every right to be optimistic for next season, but I think that you need to be more realistic about the players you’re going to attract.
Your into L1 play off final and there's nowt to talk about on your own forum fella? Bugger off and let us moan amongst ourselves about our piss poor league 2 side thanks !!!!!! :scarf: .
Best of luck for the final, may the best team win. Hopefully we will be back up there soon. Sheff W shouldnt be in L1 and the best placed third finish ever deserves to go up......but I still can't bring myself to back Moore!
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Some of the comments on here are unbelievable! Here was me thinking that our fans had the monopoly when it came to delusions of grandeur!!
Right now your a piss poor League 2 side who were shocking for most of last season. The days of you holding your own in the Championship or challenging for the League 1 title are light years away. If you’re a professional footballer, Rovers are not an attractive proposition right now and your manager will have a tough job to convince decent players to come to you. Some of you need to be be more realistic with your expectations regarding signings. Good players will not be sat by their phones desperately waiting for a call from Donny Rovers.
That said, if you can sign players who are better than those who you had last season then you’re heading in the right direction and from some comments on here, that sounds like the case in this instance. Coupled with the fact you’ve got a very good manager on board means you’ve every right to be optimistic for next season, but I think that you need to be more realistic about the players you’re going to attract.
Seems odd to come on another clubs forum and belittle them and some of our so called fans are liking this post!
We don’t care about your joke club now bugger off.
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Mccann talks about circumstances of why Lawlor probably didn't get more games there.
Mccann is no doubt a much better spotter of talent and who fits into the team than any of us.
Looking back Lawlor and Marosi had a great tussle for number 1 that season and Mccann sounds like he is the guy to get the best out of any player and the relationship with Lawlor maybe is the personal touch Lawlor needs to bring the best out of him and the confidence he needs.
Good solid first signing, sounds like Jones may stay aswell and he finished off the season well.
First time in years I'm getting excited about a season.
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Comment from my Dundee mate: Bloody hell, and you were buzzing with your new manager too. He was awful for us, couldn’t get a game in the Scots champ
He played a total of 13 games, so your mate can judge that he’s awful in them 13 games? I would have to give a player a lot more games before I could consider them to be awful, I remember his 1st game at the keepmoat, he pulled off some amazing saves and won us the match.
It's always amazes me that whenever we sign someone contentious, someone always has a 'mate' from that area who can comment with authority on the ability (or otherwise) of the individual concerned.
It’s the same when a ex player signs for another club, If Lawlor had signed for another L2 club, it would be!!!! Good singing he did well for us!!! I think he was a decent keeper
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Like others have said, if McCann wants to use majority of his budget on the outfield options and get a keeper in he trusts and will be a cheaper option it makes sense.
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Some of the comments on here are unbelievable! Here was me thinking that our fans had the monopoly when it came to delusions of grandeur!!
Right now your a piss poor League 2 side who were shocking for most of last season. The days of you holding your own in the Championship or challenging for the League 1 title are light years away. If you’re a professional footballer, Rovers are not an attractive proposition right now and your manager will have a tough job to convince decent players to come to you. Some of you need to be be more realistic with your expectations regarding signings. Good players will not be sat by their phones desperately waiting for a call from Donny Rovers.
That said, if you can sign players who are better than those who you had last season then you’re heading in the right direction and from some comments on here, that sounds like the case in this instance. Coupled with the fact you’ve got a very good manager on board means you’ve every right to be optimistic for next season, but I think that you need to be more realistic about the players you’re going to attract.
Seems odd to come on another clubs forum and belittle them and some of our so called fans are liking this post!
We don’t care about your joke club now bugger off.
Eh? What’s your problem fella? I’ve as much right to post on here as you have! As I’ve mentioned on previous posts, I have family ties to Donny and Rovers in particular and I like to see Rovers do well. If you don’t like my post then either scroll on by or challenge my points?
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Some of the comments on here are unbelievable! Here was me thinking that our fans had the monopoly when it came to delusions of grandeur!!
Right now your a piss poor League 2 side who were shocking for most of last season. The days of you holding your own in the Championship or challenging for the League 1 title are light years away. If you’re a professional footballer, Rovers are not an attractive proposition right now and your manager will have a tough job to convince decent players to come to you. Some of you need to be be more realistic with your expectations regarding signings. Good players will not be sat by their phones desperately waiting for a call from Donny Rovers.
That said, if you can sign players who are better than those who you had last season then you’re heading in the right direction and from some comments on here, that sounds like the case in this instance. Coupled with the fact you’ve got a very good manager on board means you’ve every right to be optimistic for next season, but I think that you need to be more realistic about the players you’re going to attract.
Seems odd to come on another clubs forum and belittle them and some of our so called fans are liking this post!
We don’t care about your joke club now bugger off.
Totally no need for that.
It’s good to hear from fans of other clubs. Get their perspective on Rovers.
We make plenty of comments about other Clubs on this forum don’t we.
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You make fair and valid points, Stockbridge, but I have to take issue on one of your points and that is with players! There are plenty of mercenaries out there that will, if the money is right, play for anyone. Take note of L1 and L2 players that left their Clubs last season to go and play in the NL (particularly Wrexham and Notts County of course).
There’s also the ‘manager’ factor - certain players will sign for a Club if they feel inspired by a particular manager or coach. That’s been a factor, imho, with our last 2 managers, not to mention the finance package offered.
Hopefully, we’ll be challenging at the opposite end of L2 this coming season.
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Personally he’s a big step up from Mitchell so welcome back Ian
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I want to just clear up my view on the signing of Ian Lawlor.
I was very surprised to say the least. Not on my radar that’s for sure.
Not because I think he is not good enough for us in League 2
On reflection he is good enough.
I always thought he was a very good keeper when he was with us last time apart from taking crosses.
For the size of him he should have been much stronger in the air when under pressure from opposing players.
He more often than not stayed on his line or was hesitant and not confident when he did come to try and collect a cross.
His shot stopping was probably as good as any Keeper we have had over the last 20 yrs. Certainley any keeper who was ours and I include Sully.
Sam Johnstone and Senny Deing are the only ones who were better as shot stoppers.
Lawlor’s distribution was always pretty good also which in todays football is important.
I always thought he had the edge on Marosi as a keeper.
Others may disagree but Marosi I always thought had a big mistake in him every few games, also he was far from convincing on crosses.
Having said that Marosi went on to have a better career than Lawlor so what do I know.
Opinions eh
So I want to just say welcome back Ian Lawlor hope you have a very successful and enjoyable time at DRFC in your second spell at the Club.
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McCann played over 500 games as a pro and has been a manager for 350 matches. I think he is in a half decent position to judge whether Lawlor is a decent keeper or not.
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We haven’t appointed a new goalkeeping coach yet have we?
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Some folk need a reality check, we ate currently a lower half L2 side, what to folk expect? Is he the best keeper we have ever had? No! Is he the worst keeper we have ever had? No! Is he an upgrade on last seasons keeper? Yes!
Get a decent defence in front of him and we can tolerate the odd bollock
Get real folk instead of finding something to whinge about everytime the club does something!
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Some folk need a reality check, we ate currently a lower half L2 side, what to folk expect? Is he the best keeper we have ever had? No! Is he the worst keeper we have ever had? No! Is he an upgrade on last seasons keeper? Yes!
Get a decent defence in front of him and we can tolerate the odd bollock
Get real folk instead of finding something to whinge about everytime the club does something!
But he's not an upgrade on last seasons keeper.
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Some folk need a reality check, we ate currently a lower half L2 side, what to folk expect? Is he the best keeper we have ever had? No! Is he the worst keeper we have ever had? No! Is he an upgrade on last seasons keeper? Yes!
Get a decent defence in front of him and we can tolerate the odd bollock
Get real folk instead of finding something to whinge about everytime the club does something!
But he's not an upgrade on last seasons keeper.
Easily, by a Country mile
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Some folk need a reality check, we ate currently a lower half L2 side, what to folk expect? Is he the best keeper we have ever had? No! Is he the worst keeper we have ever had? No! Is he an upgrade on last seasons keeper? Yes!
Get a decent defence in front of him and we can tolerate the odd bollock
Get real folk instead of finding something to whinge about everytime the club does something!
But he's not an upgrade on last seasons keeper.
Easily, by a Country mile
Statistically he isn't but if you're not into facts then fair enough.
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Some folk need a reality check, we ate currently a lower half L2 side, what to folk expect? Is he the best keeper we have ever had? No! Is he the worst keeper we have ever had? No! Is he an upgrade on last seasons keeper? Yes!
Get a decent defence in front of him and we can tolerate the odd bollock
Get real folk instead of finding something to whinge about everytime the club does something!
But he's not an upgrade on last seasons keeper.
All about opinions but for me he’s a much better keeper than Mitchell
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Opinions eh! SOD's a legendary Rovers manager but he didn't know a good player when he saw one! I'm sure those of us who said Mark Wilson (for instance) was crap would have done a better job than SOD.
Welcome back, GM, and good luck. You're gonna need it!
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Some folk need a reality check, we ate currently a lower half L2 side, what to folk expect? Is he the best keeper we have ever had? No! Is he the worst keeper we have ever had? No! Is he an upgrade on last seasons keeper? Yes!
Get a decent defence in front of him and we can tolerate the odd bollock
Get real folk instead of finding something to whinge about everytime the club does something!
But he's not an upgrade on last seasons keeper.
Easily, by a Country mile
Statistically he isn't but if you're not into facts then fair enough.
Statistically Brown was better than Knoyle but that was definitely not the case on the pitch
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Caveat being we don’t know for definite that he is going to be first choice or whether we are going to sign another keeper - but defensively we have been extremely poor for several seasons now and a material part of this has been the absence of a consistently solid keeper.
This has been an obvious weakness since 2019 to have a good keeper who we owned and could play a part of a credible defensive unit. We are not talking here about some benchwarming or squad decision, it’s a major and specialist role as part of a back 5/6.
Given the importance of this role it is mystifying we have ended up back with a player who only a few short seasons ago precisely nobody thought was the solution to this problem.
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Some folk need a reality check, we ate currently a lower half L2 side, what to folk expect? Is he the best keeper we have ever had? No! Is he the worst keeper we have ever had? No! Is he an upgrade on last seasons keeper? Yes!
Get a decent defence in front of him and we can tolerate the odd bollock
Get real folk instead of finding something to whinge about everytime the club does something!
But he's not an upgrade on last seasons keeper.
Easily, by a Country mile
Statistically he isn't but if you're not into facts then fair enough.
This reminds me of a piece I did for kwcr back in the day. Statistically we got more points at the time with Gary O’Connor in the team rather than Dean Williams. Was he a better keeper than Williams? Not in a million years
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Once you equalise statistically for the quality of the teams being faced and whether home or away, the subjective point is whether the defence as a unit works better with perhaps a less talented keeper in goal but who communicates and organises better, or a very talented keeper who doesn’t integrate into a unit and makes that whole unit worse. World class saves are one thing but if it is 1:1 striker v keeper then something has gone wrong with the defence for that to happen.
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Some folk need a reality check, we ate currently a lower half L2 side, what to folk expect? Is he the best keeper we have ever had? No! Is he the worst keeper we have ever had? No! Is he an upgrade on last seasons keeper? Yes!
Get a decent defence in front of him and we can tolerate the odd bollock
Get real folk instead of finding something to whinge about everytime the club does something!
But he's not an upgrade on last seasons keeper.
Easily, by a Country mile
Statistically he isn't but if you're not into facts then fair enough.
Statistically Brown was better than Knoyle but that was definitely not the case on the pitch
Depends on the metrics you're using to suit your agenda. Brown is better in some areas than Knoyle and either Copps doesn't know how to judge what is required for a role in the team or he was showing certain metrics to make the fans happy. I personally wasn't there so no sure what was on the screen.
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Brown was a lot better on the metric of jogging back into defensive positions really slowly when we lost the ball.
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My first reaction was disbelief and I immediately remembered how pleased I was when Marosi displaced him. Was it McCann who released him?
Lawlor’s main fault was decision-making. Should he come out or stay on his line? Should he bother to try to stop a shot which could be heading to the top corner? So he was either indecisive or just slow to make up his mind. Unfortunately Jones has the same problem. So we risk having two with identical limitations. Mitchell, like Marosi, would always have a go at a save.
In those circumstances there is a tendency for the shot to be classified as unstoppable or the GK unsighted, but it happens more for the Joneses and the Lawlors of this world than most. As for distribution, was not Lawlor in the era when the long goal kick out wide to the half-way line was the norm?
Perhaps we should trust that GMcC knows what he is doing. Being picked up again by a former manager who has sought you out from a distance of 300 miles must boost your confidence.
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Lawlor in his first stay at Rovers was incapable of jumping into any sort of crowded box to catch a ball, I used to sit behind him screaming at him to catch, even when under no pressure he would punch the ball out to put the goal under more pressure. If he is to be No.1 I hope he has learned, but if he has only been a bench warmer at Dundee then you wonder if he has.
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Let’s see. Things like character, trust and how well a player settles are all important in assembling a squad that is more than the sum of its parts.
He is less error prone and better at kicking than Mitchell at least. But no one can deny it is underwhelming if Ian is no.1. If Sammy had suggested this a week ago you’d have all laughed at him.
If Jones doesn’t sign and the likes of Tom King, Joel Dixon or Alex Cairns are still available (all better and realistic options to those putting the club down) then we should make a move like that.
To the positivity police - it’s wishful thinking and complacency that has got us from top of league 1 to 18th in league 2 in 2.5 years. Everybody is entitled to an opinion.
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If Jones doesn’t sign and the likes of Tom King, Joel Dixon or Alex Cairns are still available (all better and realistic options to those putting the club down) then we should make a move like that.
Maybe keepers like that will cost more than Jones and Bottomley put together we have wait and see.
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We either trust the manager or we piss and whine about everything he does.
Embarrassing response on here
I'm really sorry. I rarely react like this about a player. I've said my piece so we'll just have to see how he performs. I hope he proves me wrong.
I'm catching up after a weekend away and I'm only on page 2 so, sorry if this has already been said but I thought your account must have been hacked.
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He might sign a commanding centre back that deals with all the balls into the box.
He has been signed for his speed in distribution of the ball. He wanted solid and someone he could trust. Also he wouldn’t want a lot of his budget going. Jones will have an opportunity to stake a claim to be number one as well, which personally I wouldn’t have done, but I’m not the manager.
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Some folk need a reality check, we ate currently a lower half L2 side, what to folk expect? Is he the best keeper we have ever had? No! Is he the worst keeper we have ever had? No! Is he an upgrade on last seasons keeper? Yes!
Get a decent defence in front of him and we can tolerate the odd bollock
Get real folk instead of finding something to whinge about everytime the club does something!
But he's not an upgrade on last seasons keeper.
He’s a massive upgrade on last season, enough said
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Some folk need a reality check, we ate currently a lower half L2 side, what to folk expect? Is he the best keeper we have ever had? No! Is he the worst keeper we have ever had? No! Is he an upgrade on last seasons keeper? Yes!
Get a decent defence in front of him and we can tolerate the odd bollock
Get real folk instead of finding something to whinge about everytime the club does something!
But he's not an upgrade on last seasons keeper.
Easily, by a Country mile
Statistically he isn't but if you're not into facts then fair enough.
Statistically Brown was better than Knoyle but that was definitely not the case on the pitch
That was a myth peddled by Schofield!! Completely untrue based on any known evidence.
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I remember fans moaning about Gary Woods. Remember we won the league with him in goal. Let's trust Grant and get the buzz back at the keepmoat
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We need to be thinking about a defensive unit. He had that in front of him, we don’t. Also don’t forget that when it really mattered, he got dropped at end of season for Sullivan.
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Interesting that GM contacted him a couple of weeks ago
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We need to be thinking about a defensive unit. He had that in front of him, we don’t. Also don’t forget that when it really mattered, he got dropped at end of season for Sullivan.
Woods played all season apart from the last two games.
Also we don’t know yet whether we will have a strong defensive unit in front of Lawlor. I suspect we will do.
I can’t believe the melt down over this.
Let’s give the new manager a chance to get his team together.
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We need to be thinking about a defensive unit. He had that in front of him, we don’t. Also don’t forget that when it really mattered, he got dropped at end of season for Sullivan.
Woods played all season apart from the last two games.
Also we don’t know yet whether we will have a strong defensive unit in front of Lawlor. I suspect we will do.
I can’t believe the melt down over this.
Let’s give the new manager a chance to get his team together.
If we’d signed a keeper from the bench of a side in the Scottish Championship, I wouldn’t blame people for wondering why. The fact that we’ve done that, and it happens to be a keeper who really wasn’t very good at all when he was last with us, means it’s pretty understandable why so many are questioning it. It might turn out great and he’ll have a brilliant season, but the odds are against it and it’s no surprise there’s so much scepticism.
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We need to be thinking about a defensive unit. He had that in front of him, we don’t. Also don’t forget that when it really mattered, he got dropped at end of season for Sullivan.
Woods played all season apart from the last two games.
Also we don’t know yet whether we will have a strong defensive unit in front of Lawlor. I suspect we will do.
I can’t believe the melt down over this.
Let’s give the new manager a chance to get his team together.
If we’d signed a keeper from the bench of a side in the Scottish Championship, I wouldn’t blame people for wondering why. The fact that we’ve done that, and it happens to be a keeper who really wasn’t very good at all when he was last with us, means it’s pretty understandable why so many are questioning it. It might turn out great and he’ll have a brilliant season, but the odds are against it and it’s no surprise there’s so much scepticism.
Lots of keepers aren’t at their best until they hit 30.
Scepticism in itself wouldn’t be such a surprise though but some of the comments are way beyond that.
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If Richard Wood signs, Lawlor having to come for crosses won't be as much of an issue. Wood will be one of the best CBs in League 2 for defending crosses, and every other aspect of Lawlor's game is decent, especially his distribution.
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I get all this but people giving him a free pass on what is a very basic competency for a keeper. We are back again into lowering our expectations. Having a decent, solid but not spectacular keeper who can do the basics relatively well consistently is not too much of an ask. Accepting that a professional keeper is basically a write off when it comes to taking a high ball is madness.
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I get all this but people giving him a free pass on what is a very basic competency for a keeper. We are back again into lowering our expectations. Having a decent, solid but not spectacular keeper who can do the basics relatively well consistently is not too much of an ask. Accepting that a professional keeper is basically a write off when it comes to taking a high ball is madness.
Let’s hope he has improved that part of his game.
Dundee May have a very decent keeper. Because he wasn’t 1st choice doesn’t mean he is no good.
GM isn’t an idiot is he.
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I get all this but people giving him a free pass on what is a very basic competency for a keeper. We are back again into lowering our expectations. Having a decent, solid but not spectacular keeper who can do the basics relatively well consistently is not too much of an ask. Accepting that a professional keeper is basically a write off when it comes to taking a high ball is madness.
On that basis, how wise was it to have Gary Woods as keeper in 2012/13? He wasn't very good, but we still won the league, mainly because he had such a solid defence in front of him.
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It wasn’t wise! We all said that. But he had a one-off and break defence in front of him.
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He isn’t going to be good at everything , if he was he would be in the premier league. You get players that compliment each other and cover each others weaknesses, that’s what good teams do.
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I get all this but people giving him a free pass on what is a very basic competency for a keeper. We are back again into lowering our expectations. Having a decent, solid but not spectacular keeper who can do the basics relatively well consistently is not too much of an ask. Accepting that a professional keeper is basically a write off when it comes to taking a high ball is madness.
Let’s hope he has improved that part of his game.
Dundee May have a very decent keeper. Because he wasn’t 1st choice doesn’t mean he is no good.
GM isn’t an idiot is he.
Adam Legzdins is the Dundee #1 keeper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Legzdins
Final sentence inwiki:
Legzdins would return to being Dundee's starting goalie throughout the second half of the season and played a key role in helping the Dark Blues win the Scottish Championship and return to the top flight.
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I think some on here need a reality check with their views on this, Rome wasn't built in a day and we had to start somewhere, most people here will accept we start from a stronger position from last season with IL.
The fact we can now back up his position with a centre half of the calibre of Wood starts to make the jigsaw look in a much better state. I'd now imagine that any keeper we put between the posts next season will not have half as much grief to deal with as the recent incumbents had.
That in itself is progress.
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That’s true but we don’t have to compromise. We are not looking to sign Alisson or Ederson. Just a solid and competent keeper who can do the basics well. Including dealing with the high ball in a vaguely convincing manner.
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That’s true but we don’t have to compromise. We are not looking to sign Alisson or Ederson. Just a solid and competent keeper who can do the basics well. Including dealing with the high ball in a vaguely convincing manner.
f**k me, how many posts do you want to make to say you’re not happy with this goalkeeper. One would’ve done.
McCann has worked with him and has deemed him good enough that’s enough for me
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That’s true but we don’t have to compromise. We are not looking to sign Alisson or Ederson. Just a solid and competent keeper who can do the basics well. Including dealing with the high ball in a vaguely convincing manner.
f**k me, how many posts do you want to make to say you’re not happy with this goalkeeper. One would’ve done.
McCann has worked with him and has deemed him good enough that’s enough for me
…balanced by an equal number of those whose expectations are met. Admit it’s 50:50 or thereabouts.
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f**k me, how many posts do you want to make to say you’re not happy with this goalkeeper. One would’ve done.
I make it around 15 posts in this thread.... when one could have done.
The trouble is if you persist too much, people start to ignore you.
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NEXT!
An old Tommy Cooper joke, for the younger readers
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That’s true but we don’t have to compromise. We are not looking to sign Alisson or Ederson. Just a solid and competent keeper who can do the basics well. Including dealing with the high ball in a vaguely convincing manner.
f**k me, how many posts do you want to make to say you’re not happy with this goalkeeper. One would’ve done.
McCann has worked with him and has deemed him good enough that’s enough for me
do we all remember when Fergie got rid of our german goalie who was an excellent shop stopper
he traded "shop stopping" for let's call it "ball distribution "
McCann wants him (a) for his long kick and (b) foot skills and possibly (c) the ability for him to throw the ball out quickly to a player.
For home matches he can be taught to throw the ball out to an exact point to one of our players (maybe he has this skill already ?) - say a foot away from a certain advert - the goalie can spend all day in training throwing to a certain point -
you simply put a bucket at an angle with your goalkeeping coach and throw at it --eventually he will be able to do it - and i know sod all about being a goalkeeping coach !!
I have just checked and he is 6 foot 4 ----- i actually wanted a goalie 6 foot 5 -- but that will do ---- height is everything -full stop
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After all the concerns on this, Lawlor could be the signing of the window for us!
Another outstanding display.
In Grant we trust!!!!!! And those that doubted should trust!!!!
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Yep,
A fair bit of humble pie needs serving up to a few on here
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Fair enough he’s proving me wrong!
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Me being one, it’s football we’re not all experts but are allowed an opinion.
However there were also some who said we wouldn’t get better than Mitchell in league two. An even stranger opinion lol
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Me being one, it’s football we’re not all experts but are allowed an opinion.
However there were also some who said we wouldn’t get better than Mitchell in league two. An even stranger opinion lol
Haha! Yeah, fair do, although when I said that the board were backing Schofield and at that point I couldn't see us getting anyone better and stand by that!!!
What a change this club has seen in the last few months!
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Happy to hold my hands up. He's been excellent so far
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Yep,
A fair bit of humble pie needs serving up to a few on here
I've seen Ironside wrote off by people after one game, can we stop with the knee jerk opinions of players after one or two games.
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So far so good Lawlor. Very impressive again tonight. Always thought he was alright to begin with in truth.
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Yep,
A fair bit of humble pie needs serving up to a few on here
I've seen Ironside wrote off by people after one game, can we stop with the knee jerk opinions of players after one or two games.
I think we just trust the manager that he knows what he’s doing. Baffled me that people thought even though mcCann had worked with him before they were still doubting the judgment