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I guess objective truth isn’t a concern as long as he can smear the tories
Its a bit of a tenuous link and ultimately the answers the guy have given can't really be proven to be illegal, it's a subjective answer that can't really be disputed.
This is really important. And far, far beyond party politics.https://mobile.twitter.com/AnnelieseDodds/status/1526576788289331200
Bothsidesism again.On our side, illegal donations from hostile foreign country.On the other, legal payment for doing a job.But they are all the same aren't they?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 18, 2022, 03:08:11 pmBothsidesism again.On our side, illegal donations from hostile foreign country.On the other, legal payment for doing a job.But they are all the same aren't they?https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/barry-gardiner-mi5-mps-chinese-labour-b1992599.html
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 18, 2022, 03:08:11 pmBothsidesism again.On our side, illegal donations from hostile foreign country.On the other, legal payment for doing a job.But they are all the same aren't they?Do you consider it fair and equitable that a failed former MP should of been earning a salary as an Eu commissioner, paid from EU taxpayers money that would also qualify him for a pension reputed to be in the region of £90k?You must of considered his performance as justifying this vast amount.Many others didn't.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 18, 2022, 12:07:20 pmIts a bit of a tenuous link and ultimately the answers the guy have given can't really be proven to be illegal, it's a subjective answer that can't really be disputed.All the russian money flowing into tory coffers, obfuscation the delays regarding the Security Committee report, no investigation over the most sacred bit of UK governance and the basis of democracy and no inquiry, doesn't all this make you a teensy bit uncomfortable pud?
Quote from: danumdon on May 18, 2022, 03:46:55 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 18, 2022, 03:08:11 pmBothsidesism again.On our side, illegal donations from hostile foreign country.On the other, legal payment for doing a job.But they are all the same aren't they?Do you consider it fair and equitable that a failed former MP should of been earning a salary as an Eu commissioner, paid from EU taxpayers money that would also qualify him for a pension reputed to be in the region of £90k?You must of considered his performance as justifying this vast amount.Many others didn't.Again. Totally different from illegal donations.Do you honestly not see the difference between law breaking and subjective opinion?
Quote from: SydneyRover on May 18, 2022, 01:04:57 pmQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 18, 2022, 12:07:20 pmIts a bit of a tenuous link and ultimately the answers the guy have given can't really be proven to be illegal, it's a subjective answer that can't really be disputed.All the russian money flowing into tory coffers, obfuscation the delays regarding the Security Committee report, no investigation over the most sacred bit of UK governance and the basis of democracy and no inquiry, doesn't all this make you a teensy bit uncomfortable pud?I wrote a reply earlier and clearly it didn't post, busy days and all that.Yes and no. We shouldn't fear external influence that's part of global society. Worth remembering the guys father in law is not Russian either.Also worth noting labour wanted to open up voting to non UK nationals and thus also political donations, so they don't appear to fear it at all.Re bst you've summed up my point well there, I imagine legally it would be conjecture. It appears there may be a link, but none of us can prove that.
Sydney, I'd follow the due process in line with the policies of my professional body (ethics and all) and the law frankly. If all criteria were met of course I'd accept it, if they weren't and I couldn't i obviously would not.