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Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on January 02, 2020, 10:23:56 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on January 02, 2020, 07:34:51 amSo we un cheaper meat from Australia and NZ like we did in the 70's and we buy our our products rather than theirs!And how, exactly, is that an example of the government offsetting anything?Apart from the obvious answer that it's nothing of the kind.PS Do you seriously think Australia and New Zealand are still as stuck in the 1970s as you are?PPS I've just looked up Australian beef prices. The 'cheap meat' seems to be a myth. Twenty years ago it was cheap - an average wholesale price of about £1.20 a kilo. Now it's about £4.60 a kilo. That's without transport costs, importing costs and everybody inbetween adding on their slice of profit on top.On reading your post Glynn I went on line and found thisfrom The Irish TimesWhat is the new South American beef deal that will affect Ireland?Mercosur deal has been accused for ‘selling out’ Irish farmersMon, Jul 1, 2019, 13:20 Updated: Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 17:38Basically the Eu is attempting to buy beef from the Mercosur Nations, Brazil,Paraguay,Uruguay etc. This has cause concern in Eire where they will have to compete with Beef which is 50% cheaper per KG than Irish beef...Thank you and goodnight!
Quote from: Sprotyrover on January 02, 2020, 07:34:51 amSo we un cheaper meat from Australia and NZ like we did in the 70's and we buy our our products rather than theirs!And how, exactly, is that an example of the government offsetting anything?Apart from the obvious answer that it's nothing of the kind.PS Do you seriously think Australia and New Zealand are still as stuck in the 1970s as you are?PPS I've just looked up Australian beef prices. The 'cheap meat' seems to be a myth. Twenty years ago it was cheap - an average wholesale price of about £1.20 a kilo. Now it's about £4.60 a kilo. That's without transport costs, importing costs and everybody inbetween adding on their slice of profit on top.
So we un cheaper meat from Australia and NZ like we did in the 70's and we buy our our products rather than theirs!
How will this cheap import of agricultural goods affect Northern Ireland Sproty?An area of the UK which is extremely rural and is known to be quite 'volatile' if it believes the UK is treating it unfairly.
Quote from: wilts rover on January 02, 2020, 07:55:59 pmHow will this cheap import of agricultural goods affect Northern Ireland Sproty?An area of the UK which is extremely rural and is known to be quite 'volatile' if it believes the UK is treating it unfairly.Just to put this into some sort of context and not in the sensationalisation of a journalist who seems to know as little about this as sproty, Eire exports 270,000 tonnes of beef to the UK. This deal will only allow in a total quota of beef from the whole of Mercosur of 99,000 tonnes. And that will be at a Customs Tariff of 7.5% (before any CAP implications) - which the Irish Times seems to have forgotten to mention.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on January 02, 2020, 08:06:21 pmQuote from: wilts rover on January 02, 2020, 07:55:59 pmHow will this cheap import of agricultural goods affect Northern Ireland Sproty?An area of the UK which is extremely rural and is known to be quite 'volatile' if it believes the UK is treating it unfairly.Just to put this into some sort of context and not in the sensationalisation of a journalist who seems to know as little about this as sproty, Eire exports 270,000 tonnes of beef to the UK. This deal will only allow in a total quota of beef from the whole of Mercosur of 99,000 tonnes. And that will be at a Customs Tariff of 7.5% (before any CAP implications) - which the Irish Times seems to have forgotten to mention.Cheers Glynn, cheeky Journos eh!
Didn't take long did it?The prime minister claimed there would be no checks on goods going from NI to GB and only minimal checks on goods going the other way under his plan for a post-Brexit alternative to the backstop. He said:Be in no doubt. We are the government of the United Kingdom. I cannot see any circumstances whatever in which they will be any need for checks on goods going from Northern Ireland to GB. The only circumstances in which you could imagine the need for checks coming from GB to NI, as I’ve explained before, is if those goods were going on into Ireland and we had not secured, which I hope and I’m confident we will, a zero tariff, zero quota agreement with our friends and partners in the EU.And, furthermore, I would remind you that the arrangements that we have put in place under the Northern Ireland protocol automatically evaporate after four years unless the assembly of Northern, the government of Northern Ireland, decides that they want to protract them.So there are plenty of protections for Northern Irish business, farmers and others.This is untrue.As John Campbell, BBC Northern Ireland’s business and economics editor points out, Johnson is wrong to say that a zero tariff free trade deal would obviate the need for checks on goods going from Britain to Northern Ireland under his plan, which would effectively put a customs barrier down the Irish Sea.
Following in his idol's footsteps https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-news-journalists-walk-out-no-10-briefing-a9314996.html?fbclid=IwAR2BG45yQ1wudSEAGMlCuFRNMT6BLNKuEe91RLsr75S82NbH3lFkoWbuDbg
2016, really Foxbat???