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If he signs any of our players out of contract then that’s an utter disgrace
I think as a club we’ve got to look at bringing more stability to the club, offering the short contracts to players and staff is part of the reason this keeps happening to us
Quote from: dickos1 on March 01, 2021, 10:14:06 amI think as a club we’ve got to look at bringing more stability to the club, offering the short contracts to players and staff is part of the reason this keeps happening to usExactly. Some people won't have it though.When we've half a dozen players this summer, maybe people will realise.
Quote from: dickos1 on March 01, 2021, 10:14:06 amI think as a club we’ve got to look at bringing more stability to the club, offering the short contracts to players and staff is part of the reason this keeps happening to us It’s not as simple as some say, but broadly this is right. I go back to McCann era in that you do need top quality loan players to get promoted, there is no way around this. Perhaps you don’t need your team to be made up mostly of them though.
Quote from: redarmy82 on March 01, 2021, 10:17:05 amQuote from: dickos1 on March 01, 2021, 10:14:06 amI think as a club we’ve got to look at bringing more stability to the club, offering the short contracts to players and staff is part of the reason this keeps happening to usExactly. Some people won't have it though.When we've half a dozen players this summer, maybe people will realise.Laughable comment really.....do you think we will be paying all of the wages for the players brought in one loan? Do you think we had to pay them a signing on fee?We are a small club with a relatively small budget, if you want a full squad of players that we own than that's fine, we will be playing in the Vanarama if that's what you want? No team with as little debt as we have can compete in this league without a substantial amount of loan players its as simple as that.
Quote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 09:23:17 amQuote from: Guernsey Exile on March 01, 2021, 09:20:11 amQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 09:10:03 amhttps://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/butler-appointed-manager-until-the-end-of-the-season/Andy Butler takes over.Martin - anything else you can tell us at this time?Well, let me say I'm glad he's gone. It's been a complete distraction.We have been adequately compensated and AB was always the contingency plan, which shows we were prepared if something like this did happen.Thanks Martin - appreciate the insightCopps to take over in the summer?
Quote from: Guernsey Exile on March 01, 2021, 09:20:11 amQuote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 09:10:03 amhttps://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/butler-appointed-manager-until-the-end-of-the-season/Andy Butler takes over.Martin - anything else you can tell us at this time?Well, let me say I'm glad he's gone. It's been a complete distraction.We have been adequately compensated and AB was always the contingency plan, which shows we were prepared if something like this did happen.
Quote from: silent majority on March 01, 2021, 09:10:03 amhttps://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/butler-appointed-manager-until-the-end-of-the-season/Andy Butler takes over.Martin - anything else you can tell us at this time?
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/butler-appointed-manager-until-the-end-of-the-season/Andy Butler takes over.
Quote from: dickos1 on March 01, 2021, 10:06:51 amIf he signs any of our players out of contract then that’s an utter disgrace it will depend on his relationshipWith the players but don’t think they will be happy with him going. Bostocks Twitter post says it all really
Quote from: Bailey Vickerage on March 01, 2021, 10:19:13 amQuote from: dickos1 on March 01, 2021, 10:06:51 amIf he signs any of our players out of contract then that’s an utter disgrace it will depend on his relationshipWith the players but don’t think they will be happy with him going. Bostocks Twitter post says it all really I'm not on Twitter, what's he said?
Quote from: rtid88 on March 01, 2021, 10:21:26 amQuote from: redarmy82 on March 01, 2021, 10:17:05 amQuote from: dickos1 on March 01, 2021, 10:14:06 amI think as a club we’ve got to look at bringing more stability to the club, offering the short contracts to players and staff is part of the reason this keeps happening to usExactly. Some people won't have it though.When we've half a dozen players this summer, maybe people will realise.Laughable comment really.....do you think we will be paying all of the wages for the players brought in one loan? Do you think we had to pay them a signing on fee?We are a small club with a relatively small budget, if you want a full squad of players that we own than that's fine, we will be playing in the Vanarama if that's what you want? No team with as little debt as we have can compete in this league without a substantial amount of loan players its as simple as that.It's your comment that is laughable.How many other clubs in our division are so reliant on loans and short terms contracts? How many have to have a full rebuild every single summer?
Wow. Didn’t expect this, although dare I say there were signs beneath the surface. If you read between the lines of the tone of the VSC Twitter account and the tone of certain posters on here over the course of time then you can, in my opinion, draw conclusions around tensions that may be bubbling. Subtle digs / shifting of credit to Adam Henshall for success has been evident for a while. Don’t want to get drawn into a slanging match but...Darren Moore and Grant McCann. Two very different characters. Both jumped ship very quickly to a bigger club in turmoil. If I was on the DRFC Board I’d at least want to have a look inwardly at the reasons why, and what we can learn. Have we just been unlucky? Maybe. Are we getting everything right? Some people will tell you yes. But probably not.
I see Moore's first game in charge is at Hillsborough vs. Rotherham, on Wednesday evening. Imagine the early fan pressure he may feel from nothing but a win in this?!
The more I think about this the more angrier I get, he purposely delayed contract talks to focus on the games, we all bought that and trusted him, a man with high morals we all thought, it’s obvious this has been festering in the back ground, the Free Press reporting that Wednesday asked permission to speak to him on Saturday morning, and through his agent he said he wanted to, he should have been suspended from duties at that point. I won’t have got home from Ipswich until late on Saturday and its all done and dusted Sunday, he’s been tapped up no doubt in my eyes. Also go back to Ipswich post match interview, it was different than all the others, he half criticised the players regarding the result, something he has never done before, he praised the performance but not the result, he knew he was off them, the bas**rd!
Why is this different than any of us moving jobs? We all tow the line and say the right things in our current role. Just because we as fans have an emotional attachment to the club don't for a second think that 99% of players/managers share it. When we can say we have never moved employment for a better package then we can condem those that do. Perspective ppl
Quote from: Ldr on March 01, 2021, 09:50:45 amWhy is this different than any of us moving jobs? We all tow the line and say the right things in our current role. Just because we as fans have an emotional attachment to the club don't for a second think that 99% of players/managers share it. When we can say we have never moved employment for a better package then we can condem those that do. Perspective pplI agree entirely, Ldr. What makes it stink, though, is when managers and players spout that they “have bought into the ethos of the club”, or “the chairman sold me the club’s philosophy” or “it’s a club that I’ve always admired.”
Will Butler be a player manager ?
Wow. Didn’t expect this, although dare I say there were signs beneath the surface. If you read between the lines of the tone of the VSC Twitter account and the tone of certain posters on here over the course of time then you can, in my opinion, draw conclusions around tensions that may be bubbling. Subtle digs / shifting of credit to Adam Henshall for success has been evident for a while. Don’t want to get drawn into a slanging match but...Darren Moore and Grant McCann. Two very different characters. Both jumped ship very quickly to a bigger club in turmoil. If I was on the DRFC Board I’d at least want to have a look inwardly at the reasons why, and what we can learn. Have we just been unlucky? Maybe. Are we getting everything right? Some people will tell you yes, but probably not.