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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: phil old leake on February 15, 2020, 05:24:47 pm
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It will be a very difficult task to get into the top six now
Still hoping but really do think it will be a very difficult thing to achieve
This isn’t having a dig I just believe other teams around us seem a bit more consistent
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I agree, sadly. We couldn't beat Rochdale, struggled to see off Bolton, had a bad outcome to today's proceedings & practically all our rivals got wins today. With so many away games to come, it just seems like fate is against us. But while there are plenty of games left, let's hope....
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I don’t think much has changed really,don’t think we was that bad today a lot of luck went against us,for me harsh sending off yes he caught him but wasnt a swinging elbow.dont think we have been that good away from home anyway apart from few good games.the biggest thing really for me is DM picking the right front 4 players
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The 2 points we dropped last week have really cost us
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We've had two shocking refereeing decisions go against us the last two weeks. That's probably done for us.
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We've had two shocking refereeing decisions go against us the last two weeks. That's probably done for us.
Agreed.
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This season was always going to be a mid table transition season... after a full pre season and another transfer window under Moore, next season will be the year we challenge for promotion
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Gillingham will probably go above us on Tuesday
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This season was always going to be a mid table transition season... after a full pre season and another transfer window under Moore, next season will be the year we challenge for promotion
So are you suggesting the board were lying to us?
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The top 7 look to have a little more than Rovers , your not a million miles away but it's definitely a decisive amount .
All the top 7 have serious automatic credentials too and suggests they are just that little bit better .
Four teams are going to be immensely disappointed at the conclusion of the season .
Doesn't look as though it will be anything other than a tough campaign for ourselves next season .
Luton and AN Other to join the party next season too .
In an ideal world you'd want Portsmouth , Sunderland and Ipswich to go up and clear the decks of the larger budget clubs .
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And we could have nicked a point after Sads came on today. Not enough I know but it was one of those rare Priestfield visits where you thought this could be our day after Bens worldy. The ref was really pedantic and the signs were there with the John yellow card for what seemed an innocuous collision.
Cant say the sending off looked much but we were right over on the other side. A big wobbling bag of wind and piss seemed to be making a big deal of it in front of him and the ref duly obliged.
Ah well.
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What a yo-yo world it is for Barnsley. Too good for League One and not good enough to stay up in the Championship. Elation followed by dejection. It's probably worse than missing out completely on promotion.
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The top 7 look to have a little more than Rovers , your not a million miles away but it's definitely a decisive amount .
All the top 7 have serious automatic credentials too and suggests they are just that little bit better .
Four teams are going to be immensely disappointed at the conclusion of the season .
Doesn't look as though it will be anything other than a tough campaign for ourselves next season .
Luton and AN Other to join the party next season too .
In an ideal world you'd want Portsmouth , Sunderland and Ipswich to go up and clear the decks of the larger budget clubs .
Disagree Wycombe before today had lost 5 away games in a row and they are top 7.
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It will be a tough ask but the league is too tight to say it is over especially with the fixtures left to play. Win 3/4 in a row which is completely possible and we are in a completely different position.
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What a yo-yo world it is for Barnsley. Too good for League One and not good enough to stay up in the Championship. Elation followed by dejection. It's probably worse than missing out completely on promotion.
Aye it's a funny existence all right , we must have destroyed a million accas this afternoon .
Done the double over Fulham , 4 -0 on aggregate and they haven't laid a glove on the second worst defence in the championship despite probably having the best offensive players it's possible to have at this level .
You couldn't make it up , absolutely mental this league .
:suicide:
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What a yo-yo world it is for Barnsley. Too good for League One and not good enough to stay up in the Championship. Elation followed by dejection. It's probably worse than missing out completely on promotion.
Aye it's a funny existence all right , we must have destroyed a million accas this afternoon .
Done the double over Fulham , 4 -0 on aggregate and they haven't laid a glove on the second worst defence in the championship despite probably having the best offensive players it's possible to have at this level .
You couldn't make it up , absolutely mental this league .
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You absolutely ruined my Acca! If it wasn’t for that then well done! 😂
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I don’t understand in what was a must win game, Moore didn’t pick his strongest team.
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What a yo-yo world it is for Barnsley. Too good for League One and not good enough to stay up in the Championship. Elation followed by dejection. It's probably worse than missing out completely on promotion.
Aye it's a funny existence all right , we must have destroyed a million accas this afternoon .
Done the double over Fulham , 4 -0 on aggregate and they haven't laid a glove on the second worst defence in the championship despite probably having the best offensive players it's possible to have at this level .
You couldn't make it up , absolutely mental this league .
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You absolutely ruined my Acca! If it wasn’t for that then well done! 😂
Thanks for that .
There isn't a tyke I know who believes we will stay up but we need Cauley to score as many goals as he can so we can get the highest possible fee for him in the summer .
If he can get to 19 or 20 championship goals in a relegated side then he's heading towards the £10m mark for me in the current market .
Obviously this makes the budget next season in league one pretty significant .
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This season was always going to be a mid table transition season... after a full pre season and another transfer window under Moore, next season will be the year we challenge for promotion
So are you suggesting the board were lying to us?
The board have nothing to do with the final position, they make funds available that are top six competitive...
I would say a larger portion of the fan base are accepting a lower mid table final placing, based upon the turmoil at the start of the season...
The board have provided funds ....... the team haven’t performed well enough to match them, .... the board didn’t lie.....shit just happens!
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8 wins from 13 games now.
Factor of difficulty is increasing unfortunately although football is a funny old game. I don't think anyone should be giving up.
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As soon as I heard the team yesterday it felt like we hadn’t gone there to win the game but just to try and nick something. In the end we got nothing, and of course it makes the task more difficult. We’re going to need to go out and win a number of these away games if we’re still to challenge for a play off place.
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This is exactly the point. To simplify this, we need around 2 points per game and the overwhelming majority of our games are away from home, where our record this season is around 1 point per game. It does not on form this season look possible.
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This season was always going to be a mid table transition season... after a full pre season and another transfer window under Moore, next season will be the year we challenge for promotion
Those were my thoughts at the start of the season, but we're so close now it'll seem disappointing if we're not in the play offs.
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8 wins from 13 games now.
Factor of difficulty is increasing unfortunately although football is a funny old game. I don't think anyone should be giving up.
It doesn’t matter if any fans give up on the thoughts of a top six spot.
The players certainly won’t be and that is what really matters.
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We need to beat Shrewsbury next week. All of a sudden then the Wycombe game becomes massive.
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One thing that's struck me this season, and it isn't intended as a criticism, is that we don't look capable of going on a long winning run. The facts bear it out as our best winning run has been three games, early in the season and then just after Christmas. Our longest unbeaten run was six games from the start of the season (W3 D3).
Unless you can string together a number of successive wins, something we were able to do last season, it's very difficult to break into the top six.
Our current six-match form is WLWDWL. I think that is the story of the season.
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This season was always going to be a mid table transition season... after a full pre season and another transfer window under Moore, next season will be the year we challenge for promotion
So are you suggesting the board were lying to us?
The board have nothing to do with the final position, they make funds available that are top six competitive...
I would say a larger portion of the fan base are accepting a lower mid table final placing, based upon the turmoil at the start of the season...
The board have provided funds ....... the team haven’t performed well enough to match them, .... the board didn’t lie.....shit just happens!
OK, I should have asked if the board were simply wrong, rather than lying; because according to you and other posters, it was obvious with the turmoil last Summer that this season would a mid-table transition period; and yet Gavin Baldwin, David Blunt, and Darren Moore clearly disagreed with all that when stating that the target this season was a top 6 finish.
Whichever way you look at it, if we don't make the play-offs this year, the club will have failed to achieve this season's objectives.
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You've got to sell season tickets. Can hardly see there would be an increase if they said their aim was level the budget and consolidate which is going to more than likely happen this year. Next year if we keep the manager and no loss of our best players then it will be too or failure.
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I think the team played better football at the start of the season than it does now, despite how quickly it was assembled. I really expected great things to come when the players fully gelled, following some of the early-season displays, but I'm left rather disappointed of late.
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I understand the frustration because we all want our clubs to be successful .
This league ain't a walk in the park though is it ?
I say that as a supporter of one of the bigger budget clubs at this level with a history of getting out of this league fairly regularly .
It's probably as difficult now than it's ever been because three clubs come down from the championship many of whom are big clubs with better budgets .
That said Sunderland , Ipswich and Pompey aren't guaranteed anything this season which just goes to show how difficult it is .
Without wanting to take some Rovers fans to task the budget needs to be higher in my opinion to compliment the expectation .
If my club raise the kind of money I expect them to with the sale of at least 3 of our standout players this summer we will probably have a £5 to £6m budget to prepare for league one .
That's a phenomenal amount of money to have at this level although I take the point there are absolutely no guarantees .
Whilst we can't compete in the championship we most certainly can at league one level and so can Luton and Wigan which is why you are seeing the same clubs coming up and down to and from the championship .
League One has changed massively over the years .
I can't make the population of Doncaster support the club in bigger numbers same as I can't make my club compete effectively in the championship these days despite our history telling us that we should do .
Football is actually starting to become fairly predictable and that's because budget is absolute king and it's created an unequal narrative in many respects .
If Rovers were to start next season in league two you'd be the biggest club with the best budget .
We are where we are and it's unlikely to change anytime soon .
Don't be so hard on the club , to be fair all things considered you ain't doing bad by any means .
I sincerely hope this post doesn't come across the wrong way but I just say it as I see it .
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This season was always going to be a mid table transition season... after a full pre season and another transfer window under Moore, next season will be the year we challenge for promotion
So are you suggesting the board were lying to us?
The board have nothing to do with the final position, they make funds available that are top six competitive...
I would say a larger portion of the fan base are accepting a lower mid table final placing, based upon the turmoil at the start of the season...
The board have provided funds ....... the team haven’t performed well enough to match them, .... the board didn’t lie.....shit just happens!
OK, I should have asked if the board were simply wrong, rather than lying; because according to you and other posters, it was obvious with the turmoil last Summer that this season would a mid-table transition period; and yet Gavin Baldwin, David Blunt, and Darren Moore clearly disagreed with all that when stating that the target this season was a top 6 finish.
Whichever way you look at it, if we don't make the play-offs this year, the club will have failed to achieve this season's objectives.
That’s it in a nutshell...the desires of the management team to achieve a top six placing will have failed,
but it’s hard to apportion blame, we all wanted a top six place, but some things just don’t work out the way we want them to...
So we look to rebuild for next season....some on here would want the team to push hard for it even now....and I know some would like to see DM blood some of the young ones whilst we are safe from relegation...