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BoomstickPointless, I know, since you don’t engage with facts, but there are three really big established facts that HAVE happened as predicted after the vote. 1) The Pound dropped dramatically in value. 2) Inflation went up as a result. 3) GDP growth shrank, while the rest of the world was enjoying a boom. 2) means that we’ve all got poorer because prices have been rising faster than wages. 3) Means that we’ve missed out on a surge of wealth creation. As a result, we’re about £1000 per person poorer than we would have been if we’d seen the economic performance that France, Germany, USA, Holland, Australia etc have done since 2016. This aren’t opinions. Dipshit. They are established facts.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 20, 2018, 10:45:06 amQuote from: Boomstick on July 20, 2018, 10:43:36 ambut it's all ifs and buts with you remoaners. there are no solid facts of what may or may not happen. It's automatically the worse case economic scenario, to argue your ideology. I prefer to embrace it, ITS HAPPENING.the sooner remoaners realise this and come on board, we will all benefitmoaning and throwing your toys out of the pram achieves nothing, and helps no one, it just makes it harder than it should be. let's look forward and forge a new pathway without the ball and chain of the eu around out necks. onwards and upwards, rule Britannia. Well then, let's hear all of your solid facts about how much better off we're going to be. Economically.I have none, just like you have no facts about us being worse. this whole thread is just remoaners whinging. all im saying is that it's happening, and the sooner everyone in on board, the sooner we all benefit.
Quote from: Boomstick on July 20, 2018, 10:43:36 ambut it's all ifs and buts with you remoaners. there are no solid facts of what may or may not happen. It's automatically the worse case economic scenario, to argue your ideology. I prefer to embrace it, ITS HAPPENING.the sooner remoaners realise this and come on board, we will all benefitmoaning and throwing your toys out of the pram achieves nothing, and helps no one, it just makes it harder than it should be. let's look forward and forge a new pathway without the ball and chain of the eu around out necks. onwards and upwards, rule Britannia. Well then, let's hear all of your solid facts about how much better off we're going to be. Economically.
but it's all ifs and buts with you remoaners. there are no solid facts of what may or may not happen. It's automatically the worse case economic scenario, to argue your ideology. I prefer to embrace it, ITS HAPPENING.the sooner remoaners realise this and come on board, we will all benefitmoaning and throwing your toys out of the pram achieves nothing, and helps no one, it just makes it harder than it should be. let's look forward and forge a new pathway without the ball and chain of the eu around out necks. onwards and upwards, rule Britannia.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 20, 2018, 11:25:33 amBoomstickPointless, I know, since you don’t engage with facts, but there are three really big established facts that HAVE happened as predicted after the vote. 1) The Pound dropped dramatically in value. 2) Inflation went up as a result. 3) GDP growth shrank, while the rest of the world was enjoying a boom. 2) means that we’ve all got poorer because prices have been rising faster than wages. 3) Means that we’ve missed out on a surge of wealth creation. As a result, we’re about £1000 per person poorer than we would have been if we’d seen the economic performance that France, Germany, USA, Holland, Australia etc have done since 2016. This aren’t opinions. Dipshit. They are established facts. id prefer if we continued this in person, and see if you call me dipshit to my face. I stated my opinion, I'm allowed it. I wasn't referring to what's gone on before, only what the future holds. I suggest you calm down and wind your neck in.
Oh and Filo for starting this 66 page thread.......
BoomstickA couple of weeks ago, I suggested that you stop using stupid insults in this discussion. You ignored that suggestion and carried on. You started the insults and carried on using them. Calling you “Dipshit” was very deliberately making a point. It’s frustrating isn’t it? Its insulting and it doesn’t help the discussion. You see?Right. Shall we agree to discuss this civilly, cut out the stupid infantile insults and engage with facts instead?It seems your take now is “Doesn’t matter if people made predictions and those predictions came true. I still don’t believe that their analysis is correct.” Great. So give us an argument beyond your belief as to why they are wrong and you are right.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 20, 2018, 12:20:30 pmBoomstickA couple of weeks ago, I suggested that you stop using stupid insults in this discussion. You ignored that suggestion and carried on. You started the insults and carried on using them. Calling you “Dipshit” was very deliberately making a point. It’s frustrating isn’t it? Its insulting and it doesn’t help the discussion. You see?Right. Shall we agree to discuss this civilly, cut out the stupid infantile insults and engage with facts instead?It seems your take now is “Doesn’t matter if people made predictions and those predictions came true. I still don’t believe that their analysis is correct.” Great. So give us an argument beyond your belief as to why they are wrong and you are right. your nothing but a BULLY that refuses to accept someone else has an opinion. I'm refusing to stoop to your level, your a non - entity. you may have a small following on this poxy off topic Donny rovers forum, but that's it. I'm off to engage with the real world, and not going to waste a second more of my time on you. enjoy peddling your tripe to a handful of people on here, I'm off to fry bigger fish.
I see the Hyenas have been out in force again! Well done lads, that's another one gone leaving you all to wallow in the luxury of unopposed opinion.
Right. Apologies from me about descending to insults. That’s stupid and childish and I shouldn’t have done it.Regarding opinions, it’s true that I don’t give value to many lay people’s opinions on this. Including my own, because it’s worthless. It’s too complex an issue to rely on opinions. Which is why I look at the worked out predictions of people whose job it is to look at these things. That’s different from an opinion. If I’ve come across as a bully then I apologise for that too. That’s not the intention. I do get passionate on this because it’s the most important decision we’ll take in my lifetime. And as such, EVERYONE should be arguing and discussing this to make sure we get it right. I want this country to be a success and all the indications are that we’re staring down the barrel of a disaster. No-one who studies Brexit seriously disputes that. So yeah, I argue hard. That’s what we should do. If there are strong arguments on the other side, I’ll listen to them. But I haven’t heard any in 2 years. Just vague assurances that it’ll be alright, compared to sober and detailed predictions of why it will not be alright. But none of that justifies bullying. We need to be grown up enough to discuss this civilly and if I haven’t done, that’s a mistake.
Monsieur Non, the no-deal Brexiteers' greatest ally.https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/michel-barniers-pointed-questions-point-to-no-deal/
May will call a second referendum...but not just yet.A second vote gives her a get out of jail card when the negotiations do not offer a hard brexit. The Rees Smuggers will have the whip hand unless May looks for wider endorsement for the outcome. If a second ref gives a no vote the carpet is pulled out from under the Rees Smuggers. If it shows another yes then its not her fault for what happens next.The Tories could give her the bums rush.... but risk a general election from a very weak position.All down to tactics in this poker game.
There’s the question that’s coming over the hill very quickly Glyn. Is Party affiliation more important than Brexit?If you’re a Europhile Labour supporter, it’s a particularly hard question. Corbyn’s EU policy is a shambles that would collapse at the first step. He says he wants a deal that gets us out of the SM, out of THE CU but part of A CU. And he wants the outcome to be no worse than the current deal. Baloney. That’s more wishful thinking than May. So that approach simply doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Which means that a Labour Govt would be no better able to cut a sensible deal with the EU than a Tory Govt. So what do you do as a Labour supporting Europhile? Do you support the party or the principle?
Hahahahahahahahahaha!"Doncaster promoted to the Premier League"!
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on July 21, 2018, 12:05:35 amHahahahahahahahahaha!"Doncaster promoted to the Premier League"! Nervous laugh?.